Well I'm sorry you think this is a cold or flu. Good luck with that.
OT: Vaccine
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You mean like millions of others
What I said is accurate
You can do the math with the world population
If Moose feels he doesn't need it then so be it.
Are you trying to say these vaccines didn't have problems, weren't stopped mid stream and are fully tested with no side effects guaranteed?
No different??? 370,000 dead Americans might disagree with you if they were still alive. Hope you have a will prepared.
That's not cool WB, nor accurate, major fear porn.
Over 99% of people who have gotten China Virus in Moose's age bracket have survived, most without severe symptoms.
He's not 80 years old with emphysema.
Everyone should have a will, we can all get smashed by a bus crossing the street tomorrow.
Chill out.
Because COVID spreads like wildfire in a prison and the guards bring it home and they also die. Some people in prison cant make bail and are then found innocent.
Then you agree with "Commit a crime go to the front of the line". Some of us believe if you commit a crime you've consciously forfeited your right to be 1st. That law abiding citizens, guards and staff included deserve to be 1st.
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Im saying they were tested on animals and went through rigorous testing like any other vaccine/treatment. You also said they were stopped and reconfigured, which did not happen. AZ’s vaccine was paused due to a potential severe reaction, but restarted once a connection could not be found.
No side effects guaranteed? Are you talking about the well documented short term side effects such as shoulder pain, fatigue or temporary fever?
Wait are trying to say that 370,000 died from the cold or flu in a single year. It very accurate!
The stupidity of people to think they are bullet prove against this virus is insane. Does Moose think he is the only one taking C and Zinc? How many of them have already died for being so bold. The answer is too many. Do the calculation of the 1% of his age that have died and put it into a real number.
I said contracting it is no different. It affects ppl differently. Most ppl don’t even know they had it while other, like older folks, the obese, etc sometimes have more severe reactions. If you want to get stuck with a vaccine for a virus with a 99.8 percent survival rate that’s your choice. To me, the risk isn’t worth the reward
9 guards died in NYC from COVID. Do you not understand that if the inmates have it and spread it its a danger to a larger community outside of prison?
370 mil dead yada, yada. Original projections from “experts” were 2-3 mil dead in the US. But most have short memories
And what don't you get that guards and staff are law abiding citizens. Like I said law abiding citizens should get it 1st. Prisoner does his time and is due for release then yes he's paid his price and deserves to get it as well.
Wrong again. Whatever. Yada yada over 370k is disgusting to feel that way.
It is not the front of line special treatment, just looks that way.
it's trying to stop the spread in the places that a large breakout ( pun inserted) of infected is likely to happen.
Disagree with prisoners getting vaccine before other groups , there are many reasons to want them at the end of line.
But realize prisons are one of the places, because of close confinement, that the virus could spread like wildfire and might escape ( nice pun there) out into the free world infecting the population around prison because of guards and suppliers going in and out of there every day.
It's not a case of prisoners being treated better, just a safety precaution that most don't like or agree should be done.
But I can see why many feel other groups need to be taken care of first.
I'm not sure about this issue myself.
Homeless shelters might be considered hot spots because of homeless packed in to keep them out of the elements.
Do they get vaccine before healthy 50 year old people , 30 year olds or healthy 60s.
I let those with medical backgrounds answer those questions, because I think most will put prisoners in the back of line and some groups before the homeless..
I don't know who should be in line : medical personnel/ first responders , law enforcement, members of military service and maybe those who interact with the public .
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That was before the vaccine. And I have no problem with the guards being a priority.
You're not comprehending bro
It's not 1% first of all.
And, if Moose is healthy and let's say 40, the odds of him getting real sick or so minute he has a better chance dying of food poisoning or getting an amoeba in his brain while jumping in a lake.
For others, either older or that have health issues such as diabetes, heart defects, cancer, even smokers, yeah, go get vaccinated
You're saying that everyone needs to get vaccinated or they will perish.
And stop with the 370k muluarky. Statistics manipulation
How many were healthy 40 year olds without underlying or known health problems?
Very very few.
Nobody is saying don’t vaccinate prison guards or their families and those who work inside the prison system. To skirt past the elderly over 65 and those with health issues is disturbing. Let’s reward the everyday felons . The same ones who would beat you over the head and worse. Then to see someone on this board say “ it’ll help stop future lawsuits” . You want lawsuits...keep shatting on the people that pay your salaries.
You’re way too emotional and that leads to poor decision making. I think you said you ride your bike a ton of miles and presumably you’re in good shape. You’ll be fine but take the vaccine if it makes you feel better
I'm comprehending fine. You are failing to. Disagree with the 370k? Prove it.
Still didn't do the math. Let me give you some advice. There is a calculator on your phone. Do the math. US and worldwide.
And you don't care about younger people infecting others??
Answer my question mr calculus
In the US, How many healthy non-smoker 40 year olds without underlying or known conditions have died because of CV?
You sure it’s 99.8% for you? How old are you, what is your BMI and do you have any pre-existing conditions?
It’s also not only about death, it’s about not getting any long term effects either. Also, helps limit spread to people you come into contact with. Hope you don’t have any elderly or compromised relatives.
I think he projects himself to how everyone else should decide what's best for them.
There are anti-vaxers, he's the polar opposite, mandate-vaxer
I pretty sure I'll be fine. Had emergency surgery recently and was out of the hospital 2 days early. But you are being selfish only caring that you won't get it. If you do you might be fine. How many others will you infect? I guess you you don't care as long as you are fine.
I'm glad you and Moose are only concerned with yourselves. You don't give a rat's ass about who you might infect.
Your choice not to get the vaccine, but from what I've been reading, you will need to show proof you've had it to travel and go to concerts.
My cousin lost her 65YO husband today from covid. . Yes he had asthma. She lost her 63 year old sister in august from covid. No major health issues.
My tune on this thing turned somewhere in between. Carry on.
My tune on this thing turned somewhere in between. Carry on.
Yeah we’re well beyond what Orwell envisioned so I won’t be surprised what’s in store
Please you are so full of Dog Sh$&$$t Sorry I disagree with your logic since these same prisoners deliberately spread the virus amongst the population . What you need is to have a felony committed against you or a family member then come on here and whine like bitch. I guarantee you will sing a much different song.
It's insane, everyone should be outraged if that ever happens.
It happened in Buffalo yesterday and today. Want to go to the playoff game you had to get tested and proof of a negative.
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