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OT: Winter Is Nigh...Advisories up for 2-3" for most of CNJ/SNJ/NYC/SE-PA today (12/15)

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Well, football season's over, which means it must be winter (meteorological winter, at least), so thought some of you might be interested to know that the mild fall we've had is over and it's about to get cold mid-week and even colder next week and likely to stay below to well below normal at least through Day 15 (12/17) or so and possibly beyond.

The global pattern is looking very favorable for occasional lobes of the polar vortex to head down towards the Great Lakes and Northeast US (and even down into the deep south at times), bringing lots of cold air - doesn't mean every day is going to be brutally cold, but some are likely to be well below normal and most to all will be below normal (normal in NB is 47/30F on 12/7 to 42/26F on 12/21).

I'm no fan of predicting specific weather for a specific day beyond 7-8 days out, as the accuracy just isn't there for chaotic systems, like the weather, but predicting general trends for 2-3 weeks out has some accuracy and the 15-day model runs are all showing the cold and most of the long-range forecasters are seeing the same.

So, does this mean we're going to get snow? Well, that's a lot harder to predict, but it's certainly a lot more likely to snow when it's below freezing than when it's not (duh) and the pattern is also showing the next few weeks being active with a series of shortwaves (lows) that will likely at least result in some snow in the area (and probably a lot of lake effect snow), especially in the climatologically more favored, colder, inland locations. The first significant threat of snow (the Weds/Thursday system should be all rain, maybe ending as snow inland) is next weekend, although it's still too far out to predict anything. Crossing fingers, of course.

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https://www.33andrain.com/topic/758-awakening-long-range-winter-thread-part-2/
 
What was the final tally for the tropical storms/hurricanes? Didn't the powers that be predict a higher number than usual?
 
Well, football season's over, which means it must be winter (meteorological winter, at least), so thought some of you might be interested to know that the mild fall we've had is over and it's about to get cold mid-week and even colder next week and likely to stay below to well below normal at least through Day 15 (12/17) or so and possibly beyond.

The global pattern is looking very favorable for occasional lobes of the polar vortex to head down towards the Great Lakes and Northeast US (and even down into the deep south at times), bringing lots of cold air - doesn't mean every day is going to be brutally cold, but some are likely to be well below normal and most to all will be below normal (normal in NB is 47/30F on 12/7 to 42/26F on 12/21).

I'm no fan of predicting specific weather for a specific day beyond 7-8 days out, as the accuracy just isn't there for chaotic systems, like the weather, but predicting general trends for 2-3 weeks out has some accuracy and the 15-day model runs are all showing the cold and most of the long-range forecasters are seeing the same.

So, does this mean we're going to get snow? Well, that's a lot harder to predict, but it's certainly a lot more likely to snow when it's below freezing than when it's not (duh) and the pattern is also showing the next few weeks being active with a series of shortwaves (lows) that will likely at least result in some snow in the area (and probably a lot of lake effect snow), especially in the climatologically more favored, colder, inland locations. The first significant threat of snow (the Weds/Thursday system should be all rain, maybe ending as snow inland) is next weekend, although it's still too far out to predict anything. Crossing fingers, of course.

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https://www.33andrain.com/topic/758-awakening-long-range-winter-thread-part-2/
Looking forward to the season of winter winter threads!
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breaking news its winter, it will snow at some point....waaaaaaaaaaaah
I look forward to the upcoming thread about it being very cold (yeah, in the "winter" ). That should come with a Breaking News headline.
 
T - is your desire to troll so high that you don't care if you look like a moron? We had 30" in Metuchen last year, 30" in Newark (vs. 28" avg) and 33" in NYC (vs. 27" avg). Philly and south of there were below normal, while most of New England was well above normal snowfall.

http://reports.wxtrends.com/imagery/EasternSnowfallTotals040817.png
Metuchen, Newark, and NYC? #whocares
Perhaps I will start the official make fun of winter weather threads thread. Hmm.....
 
How many snow days will there be over 2 inches, over 12 inches? I say 1 over 2 inches and 2 big storms bring us 12 inches.
 
RU848789 love the weather threads you start. Love winter myself looking forward to some snow!!! Keep up the threads
 
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Well, football season's over,

Over? Did you say "over"?? Nothing is over until we decide it is!

To begin with, less than 6 days away is America's Game, Army/Navy game in Philadelphia. ESPN College Gameday, March on, parachute jump, flyover... Commander in Chief Trophy at stake and should be a very competitive game. And the only game that matters to all who serve.
So how about a forecast for that? Including wind which is important from a comfort level and a parachute jump standpoint. 2nd best tailgate in the world (LSU being #1)

Don't drop the curtain on my football season just yet #s.

Plus I'm going to Eagles/Cowboys 12/31
 
Over? Did you say "over"?? Nothing is over until we decide it is!

To begin with, less than 6 days away is America's Game, Army/Navy game in Philadelphia. ESPN College Gameday, March on, parachute jump, flyover... Commander in Chief Trophy at stake and should be a very competitive game. And the only game that matters to all who serve.
So how about a forecast for that? Including wind which is important from a comfort level and a parachute jump standpoint. 2nd best tailgate in the world (LSU being #1)

Don't drop the curtain on my football season just yet #s.

Plus I'm going to Eagles/Cowboys 12/31
lol, it's over for me once RU is done, sadly - I just am not interested in college football once RU is done and especially if we've had a bad season. I watch pro, but have no rooting interest. I do enjoy watching Army-Navy, though. Will almost certainly be much colder than normal on Saturday with a chance of rain/snow showers - hard to predict wind this far out, but with a front coming through, it could be breezy. Enjoy...
 
Newell You are going camping in NY State in mid December. How not cold would you ever expect it to be?
 
lol, it's over for me once RU is done, sadly - I just am not interested in college football once RU is done and especially if we've had a bad season. I watch pro, but have no rooting interest. I do enjoy watching Army-Navy, though. Will almost certainly be much colder than normal on Saturday with a chance of rain/snow showers - hard to predict wind this far out, but with a front coming through, it could be breezy. Enjoy...
Won't be as bad as last year in Baltimore. Highs in the low 30s and wind chills in the 20s. As long as it' dry and not windy this can feel like a heat wave from a year ago.
 
Watching my first snow as we speak. May be the only thing I root harder for than Rutgers.
 
Well, football season's over, which means it must be winter (meteorological winter, at least), so thought some of you might be interested to know that the mild fall we've had is over and it's about to get cold mid-week and even colder next week and likely to stay below to well below normal at least through Day 15 (12/17) or so and possibly beyond.

The global pattern is looking very favorable for occasional lobes of the polar vortex to head down towards the Great Lakes and Northeast US (and even down into the deep south at times), bringing lots of cold air - doesn't mean every day is going to be brutally cold, but some are likely to be well below normal and most to all will be below normal (normal in NB is 47/30F on 12/7 to 42/26F on 12/21).

I'm no fan of predicting specific weather for a specific day beyond 7-8 days out, as the accuracy just isn't there for chaotic systems, like the weather, but predicting general trends for 2-3 weeks out has some accuracy and the 15-day model runs are all showing the cold and most of the long-range forecasters are seeing the same.

So, does this mean we're going to get snow? Well, that's a lot harder to predict, but it's certainly a lot more likely to snow when it's below freezing than when it's not (duh) and the pattern is also showing the next few weeks being active with a series of shortwaves (lows) that will likely at least result in some snow in the area (and probably a lot of lake effect snow), especially in the climatologically more favored, colder, inland locations. The first significant threat of snow (the Weds/Thursday system should be all rain, maybe ending as snow inland) is next weekend, although it's still too far out to predict anything. Crossing fingers, of course.

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https://www.33andrain.com/topic/758-awakening-long-range-winter-thread-part-2/


You lost me after "the football's season is over.."
 
Well, the models almost all made a significant shift for Saturday's winter event (starts late Friday night and goes through much of Saturday) and now it's looking like a 2-4" event for most of the Philly-NYC corridor is quite possible. Now that we're within 48 hours of the event, it's worth posting about - the models have been flip-flopping like crazy for the past few days on this one. Could still be a 1" storm or a 4-8" event depending on track and intensity. More is likey towards the coast than inland, although the coast may also see some mixing. Will know much better by tomorrow at this time. Gotta run - assume maps will be up soon from the NWS.
 
Well, the models almost all made a significant shift for Saturday's winter event (starts late Friday night and goes through much of Saturday) and now it's looking like a 2-4" event for most of the Philly-NYC corridor is quite possible. Now that we're within 48 hours of the event, it's worth posting about - the models have been flip-flopping like crazy for the past few days on this one. Could still be a 1" storm or a 4-8" event depending on track and intensity. More is likey towards the coast than inland, although the coast may also see some mixing. Will know much better by tomorrow at this time. Gotta run - assume maps will be up soon from the NWS.
Not one Philly station is calling for snow of any amount for Saturday. Snow shower maybe in Cape May area.
You are in mid-winter form already!
 
He's talking about this:

"One thing of concern is what has occurred in the past, where QPF amounts flip flop between the 00Z and 12Z model suites. So it is possible that with the models on 12Z Friday, we see QPF amounts and snow amounts go back up. As such, this remains a low confidence forecast from 00Z Saturday through 00Z Sunday."
 
If this weather occurs, what timeframe are they talking about?
 
It's worth noting that accumulations will be mostly on grassy and untreated surfaces, as temperatures will be marginal.

The REAL weenies are looking at the model runs for a KU setup late next week.
 
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