I'd bet anything Grant would have contributed more if he played Martini's minutes tonightTo look at it another way, how horrific is Grant to not even be as good as Martini? But I agree, let him play see what he can do. Can’t be much worse.
I'd bet anything Grant would have contributed more if he played Martini's minutes tonightTo look at it another way, how horrific is Grant to not even be as good as Martini? But I agree, let him play see what he can do. Can’t be much worse.
Probably right. Then he could be a captain too.I'd bet anything Grant would have contributed more if he played Martini's minutes tonight
To look at it another way, how horrific is Grant to not even be as good as Martini? But I agree, let him play see what he can do. Can’t be much worse.
Pike has a typeI'd bet anything Grant would have contributed more if he played Martini's minutes tonight
Being a worse offensive coach than Dana Altman isn’t exactly a damning rebuke. And there hasn’t been really notable attrition from Rutgers compared to similar programs.Says it all. Gotta go.
Grant needs to take Martini minutes .I'd bet anything Grant would have contributed more if he played Martini's minutes tonight
They belonged here until they got here.Why? They can’t even crack this lineup. Doubt they belong here.
Not to mention the comments from Spencer’s parents.
When Pikiell gave into Somerville’s demands of no center (if that is true) it confirmed he is a weak coach.
lol Jacob Young was probably Pikes greatest success. Dude was barely playable when he arrived hereI
Cam Spencer had similar sentiments.From Eugene Omoruyi in 2021:
“Just my feel for the game,” he said. “Me playing basketball the right way. Knowing the ins and outs of the game, having such a great coach as Coach (Dana) Altman. He’s taught me a lot of things about the game that I didn’t know when I was at Rutgers.”
We don't even have an AD! Who's gonna fire him?Highly likely! But Pike is still gone! He’s done
I believe Young was the fifth or sixth man at Texas - far from unplayable.They belonged here until they got here.
sure blame the fansThen that is on the fans. Couldn't help laughing to myself, Indiana goes out and gets a complete beast of a center from Arizona. Why? Because their fanbase cares and pours in donations. Rutgers fans have alligator arms a list of complaints that can top Mount Everest so we get the kid from Princeton as our 5.
Thats what you all get IMO.
You’re right but that’s Also the issue is we only have 50kSome place there's a major donor out there watching this basketball season saying to himself, "why the fvck did I give Pike $50k for this kid?"
how much did we pay J Will
I believe Young was the fifth or sixth man at Texas - far from unplayable.
Young was best at Rutgers easilyTexas fans hated him and he was completely out of control here at the beginning of the 19-20 season. He was a walking (or running) turnover.
I do not think that Pike is generally a good offensive coach but Jacob Young specifically made huge improvements here and then went backwards at Oregon. He is probably the literal worst example to use to demonstrate Pike being a bad offensive coach.
You said he was unplayable. All I said is that he was fifth or sixth man at Texas. Liked or not Texas did not see him as unplayable and they were better than us at the time. The main problem he had at RU was that he was tough to deal with.Texas fans hated him and he was completely out of control here at the beginning of the 19-20 season. He was a walking (or running) turnover.
I do not think that Pike is generally a good offensive coach but Jacob Young specifically made huge improvements here and then went backwards at Oregon. He is probably the literal worst example to use to demonstrate Pike being a bad offensive coach.
You said he was unplayable. All I said is that he was fifth or sixth man at Texas. Liked or not Texas did not see him as unplayable and they were better than us at the time. The main problem he had at RU was that he was tough to deal with.
IIRC young had more turnovers per 100 and higher TOV% at Rutgers than at Texas or Oregon and his offensive out puts were close to identical in his last year at UT, 2 yr avg at RU, and one year at Oregon.Texas fans hated him and he was completely out of control here at the beginning of the 19-20 season. He was a walking (or running) turnover.
I do not think that Pike is generally a good offensive coach but Jacob Young specifically made huge improvements here and then went backwards at Oregon. He is probably the literal worst example to use to demonstrate Pike being a bad offensive coach.
Mark Cuban poured a lot of money into Indiana NIL.Then that is on the fans. Couldn't help laughing to myself, Indiana goes out and gets a complete beast of a center from Arizona. Why? Because their fanbase cares and pours in donations. Rutgers fans have alligator arms a list of complaints that can top Mount Everest so we get the kid from Princeton as our 5.
Thats what you all get IMO.
I wonder if our AD is working on that now. Oh wait, we don’t have one. It’s turning into a sh*tshow. Talk about a rudderless ship. Is Julie busy?No reason to debate Pike is done! He will not be here next year!
Same in football. We’re screwed.this all sucks because I really think Pike is a good man and would have loved for him to succeed but I really believe this program is in trouble in the NIL era. Schools reload every year with talented transfers while we pick up low major reaches. He’s not cut out for this era.
Well, when the vaunted 3 pt shooters seemingly can't shoot 3s, that'll happen.Yes. But again..who knew they would be…
In Pikes defense - everyone loved the transfers at the time.
He struggles with roster management for sure. That said if he indeed fails rutgers is in for another long cold winter. Basketball people know he can coach and if he fails Rutgers well deserved reputation as a graveyard will be back perhaps stronger than ever and it will be a miracle if we get someone that can actually get us back to decent.Obviously I've been a huge Pike supporter and he turned the dumpsterfire around miraculously, but missing on this entire portal transfer class in a once in a lifetime opportunity this season is a bigtime fail. It is what it is at this point and is honestly a fireable offense if the season doesn't turn around
Rutgers needs a GM to help with the portal. Pike's hit rate simply is not high enough
This is such a loser mentality. @dpwhite was arguing this with me last week. If Pike gets fired after next year it will be 10 years of him being here. That is not a coaches graveyard.He struggles with roster management for sure. That said if he indeed fails rutgers is in for another long cold winter. Basketball people know he can coach and if he fails Rutgers well deserved reputation as a graveyard will be back perhaps stronger than ever and it will be a miracle if we get someone that can actually get us back to decent.
I’m not saying that’s a reason not to make a change. I’m making a prediction based on watching college basketball closely for 50 years.This is such a loser mentality. @dpwhite was arguing this with me last week. If Pike gets fired after next year it will be 10 years of him being here. That is not a coaches graveyard.
We have a top 10 home court advantage in CBB to sell
Fertile recruiting grounds
We pay top 25 in the country in pay
P2 conference
NIL rev share that will beat most other conferences
Excellent practice facility
There is plenty to sell and I am confident we can land someone decent. You can't Vivian Stringer the program because we went to the dance and won a game 5 years ago when each year afterwards was downward progress.
Nothing stays the same, things change. We are in a healthy position to be attractive to the right coach.I’m not saying that’s a reason not to make a change. I’m making a prediction based on watching college basketball closely for 50 years.
Let’s revisit in five years and hopefully you can say I told you so.Nothing stays the same, things change. We are in a healthy position to be attractive to the right coach.
Just a couple note-This is such a loser mentality. @dpwhite was arguing this with me last week. If Pike gets fired after next year it will be 10 years of him being here. That is not a coaches graveyard.
We have a top 10 home court advantage in CBB to sell
Fertile recruiting grounds
We pay top 25 in the country in pay
P2 conference
NIL rev share that will beat most other conferences
Excellent practice facility
There is plenty to sell and I am confident we can land someone decent. You can't Vivian Stringer the program because we went to the dance and won a game 5 years ago when each year afterwards was downward progress.
First need a university president to hire the AD who hires the coach. 🤪I wonder if our AD is working on that now. Oh wait, we don’t have one. It’s turning into a sh*tshow. Talk about a rudderless ship. Is Julie busy?
He is one of the most inconsistent players I have seen. Too often he IS out of controlWhatever it was he clearly didn’t use it for new shoes.
Tired of seeing that guy slip and fall all over the court.
this^^^ If we can't make the tourney with this type of talent its never going to happen.The negative recruiting against Rutgers going forward barring any miracle down the season will be immense.
Don’t worry, Pike should still be able to recruit mid major level talent. Jkjk, but he’s you are absolutely correct. What a dumpster fireThe negative recruiting against Rutgers going forward barring any miracle down the season will be immense.
that wouldn't have been hardI'd bet anything Grant would have contributed more if he played Martini's minutes tonight
100% yes. nearly 4000 additional people want tickets. There is also a waiting list for court side.Just a couple note-
Will top ten home court still exist when prices are raised and RU fans run away refusing to pay?
Revenue share probably not as much help as you think. Football will get most. Many other schools may give more to hoops, and some don't have to share w football.