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Pike-hating: so predictable and wrong.

Not true. I know for a fact so spew your uninformed shit. Your posts have been shitting on Pike. But when you post lies and things you know nothing about , it makes you look like a fool and when you double down it makes it look worse
Yeah, it’s all about $
 
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Ace isnt delivering what his press clippings said and if you recruit a top 5 guy he must deliver immediately

Whether thats fair or not is another question. Ace isnt a difference maker. Dylan is.
Dylan doesn't need any help from the staff. His ability to get all the way to the rim is sick. He's a unicorn.

Has the staff done anything to help Ace? It's criminal. He does not have the ability to breakdown a defender and get to the rim. I'm not a fan of about a 1/3rd of his shots.
 
Figures the Pike haters, who were strangely absent after the PSU win, are back in force. Trolls who have no idea how good Pike has been for RU as coach: 3 NCAA tourneys (yes 2020 counts), which should've been 4 if not for getting screwed, every home game sold out, winning games against very good teams and recruiting two top 5 recruits, although admittedly he has not found the best way to coach them and the rest of the team. Yet. If we're still talking about bad losses at 17-14 or something like that, then it's time to say he failed as a coach, this year, but not yet. And certainly not overall. Very proud to have this good, decent man, who can coach, as our coach and am certainly not ready to count us out this year, even though things don't like good right now. We'll see.
Pike = Schiano 2.0
Great program builder, shitty game coach.
His deficiencies are glaring this year due to the talent on the team.
 
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I know PSU alumni and they laugh at Rutgers athletics
Where is all of that Big Ten money going to? Faculty and administration?
 
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He tried to get Kentucky ‘s 2 bigs , Williams and he was too costly and then went after Carr fromWake and he wanted too much that we did not have. Are you really trying to say he didn’t try to get an impactful 5 ? The money was not there. Both those guys I think went for more than a million or close to it. Ok. Blame Pike.
Damn pesky facts are inconvenient for keyboard warriors.
 
Exactly. Been saying that all year. Huge upside, but Ace is not playing anywhere near like a "lottery pick" right now and if he doesn't step up, I don't think he will be one, unless it truly is only about potential. 18/7 is nice, but his handle is suspect, he turns it over a lot without being a distributor (0.6 assists per game vs. 2.4 TOs a game) and his defense is mixed: good athletic rebounder, but out of position a lot and only 60% FTs. I keep hoping he "gets it" and truly takes off, but if he doesn't, we're unlikely to make the NCAAs. If he played better in the Kennesaw game and this game, we have 2 more wins.

But certainly part of that is on Pike, who has not been able to get this team to play well together and who didn't obtain good enough talent to complement the two stars, both valid criticisms. But not reasons to fire Pike (and certainly not reasons to treat our best coach in the last 40+ years like dirt) - if we don't make the NCAAs, which is not a given.
We are doing nothing to help Ace. How many dunks did Caden Pierce get cutting to the basket? Henderson runs an offense that gets his best players lots of easy looks. All of Ace’s shots are difficult because we do nothing to free him up. No one from the NBA watching our games is looking at this and saying the problem is Ace.
 
It wasn't NIL. Pike said we were good.amd stood down. Bad decision
The center market went crazy this offseason and we got priced out. FFS someone paid Cliff 1M think about that. Some of the scrubs left got like 500-750k we were not paying that, nor could we. Thats not on Pike. Thats on our fanbase for wanting luxury products on a Walmart budget as usual.
 
We are doing nothing to help Ace. How many dunks did Caden Pierce get cutting to the basket? Henderson runs an offense that gets his best players lots of easy looks. All of Ace’s shots are difficult because we do nothing to free him up. No one from the NBA watching our games is looking at this and saying the problem is Ace.
There is some truth to this but he's soft around the rim. He is starting to learn to attack under us I would argue. I have yet to see him drive to the hoop and throw down a dunk. He needs to play meaner on offense and throw it down.
 
Rutgers is not the only team in the country with elite NBA talent. Have you watched Duke? Auburn? Bama? Illinois? They have set plays to get their shooters in position to knock down shots. Why is it every year Rutgers struggles to find open 3pt looks?
The defense is bad because Rutgers recruited bad defensive players. That doesn’t mean you can’t win. You have very good offensive options on this team but Pike and staff have no idea how to use them. Why is Hayes here if he doesn’t get any open looks from 3. Why is Martini here, Acuff etc. Pike recruited good offensive players but installed no offense to maximize its strengths. It’s just give the ball to one of your superstars and let them go. Watch any team with elite talent, this isn’t how they play.

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He said that because there was not enough NIL.

Please tell me you’re not really this dense.
You can't be this dumb
The center market went crazy this offseason and we got priced out. FFS someone paid Cliff 1M think about that. Some of the scrubs left got like 500-750k we were not paying that, nor could we. Thats not on Pike. Thats on our fanbase for wanting luxury products on a Walmart budget as usual.
I agree the center market went crazy but I disagree we couldn't have done better if Pike pushed for it. If I am wrong correct me, but I thought the mods were aligned that the $$ was not the ultimate issue and Pike stood down, partly due to Lathan (another mistake).and partly due to stupidity. If $$ truly dictated that and this is the best roster we could have fielded, I guess I give up then, because this season was supposed to be 'the year', and it sucks just like most of them before it. There is.no payoff with Pike. It's just meh
 
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There is some truth to this but he's soft around the rim. He is starting to learn to attack under us I would argue. I have yet to see him drive to the hoop and throw down a dunk. He needs to play meaner on offense and throw it down.
Right now Ace isn’t the kind of player that can get to the basket from the 3 point line, where he typically gets the ball, and get all the way to the basket. What he can do, was a play from a couple of games ago, where he cut to the basket and Dylan got him the ball for an easy score. It is a play we should run at least 20 times a game, but we have barely done it since. There is basically no coaching going on when we are on offense.
 
The center market went crazy this offseason and we got priced out. FFS someone paid Cliff 1M think about that. Some of the scrubs left got like 500-750k we were not paying that, nor could we. Thats not on Pike. Thats on our fanbase for wanting luxury products on a Walmart budget as usual.
Why? Rutgers is in “Big Ten” where is all of that Big Ten money going?

To Rutgers DEI initiatives?
 
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Why? Rutgers is in “Big Ten” where is all of that Big Ten money going?

Rutgers DEI initiatives?

There are 17 other schools in the BIG10 as well and we get a lot less money than them all even after being in the conference for 10 years.

And Revenue sharing hasn’t started yet. Teams haven’t been using conference $ to fill out rosters. NIL has been fueled by donors, small businesses and corporations….and Rutgers comes up when short compared to our peers.

The IQ of this board is insanely low sometimes.
 
I dont think you fire him...but not sure he can recover. He will get crucified until he makes the tournament next.

Honestly, I don't think he'll recover if he doesn't make it this year.
Bringing in 2 of the top 3 recruits and not making it to the tourney?? That sinks his boat - just don't see him coming back from this.
 
This is so true. These are not great results over 8 years. Just because we used to beg for crumbs to eat pre-Pike, does not mean that a piece of bread to eat for dinner is suddenly great during the pre-Pike era. You are still being starved, you’re just starving a little less, that’s all.
You do realize Pike took over a horrific program? If you’re going to judge him you should probably exclude the first 3-4 years.
 
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There are 17 other schools in the BIG10 as well and we get a lot less money than them all even after being in the conference for 10 years.

And Revenue sharing hasn’t started yet. Teams haven’t been using conference $ to fill out rosters. NIL has been fueled by donors, small businesses and corporations….and Rutgers comes up when short compared to our peers.

The IQ of this board is insanely low sometimes.
As per our prestigious former AD has stated, Rutgers is receiving a full share from the Big Ten Conference?
 
As per our prestigious former AD has stated, Rutgers is receiving a full share from the Big Ten Conference?

No we didn’t and nicely done ignoring the obvious point of my post in that schools weren’t using the BIG10 $ to pay players as of this year.

NIL was coming from donors, small businesses and corporations.

So the point you are trying to make in that we could have brought in a better center with BIG $ is a moronic one.
 
No we didn’t and nicely done ignoring the obvious point of my post in that schools weren’t using the BIG10 $ to pay players as of this year.

NIL was coming from donors, small businesses and corporations.

So the point you are trying to make in that we could have brought in a better center with BIG $ is a moronic on

No we didn’t and nicely done ignoring the obvious point of my post in that schools weren’t using the BIG10 $ to pay players as of this year.

NIL was coming from donors, small businesses and corporations.

So the point you are trying to make in that we could have brought in a better center with BIG $ is a moronic one.
Give it up. We all know what the issue is fwiw
 
Man after the fight I had with you in the Williams thread I've found myself agreeing with almost everything you post. I don't know what my point is but... truce I guess?

Haha I was fired up after that loss and still would write the OP but probably went a bit too far in our exchanges. I also don’t care as much now that it’s clear we’re just not talented enough.

But anyways you’re a good poster and I wasn’t holding any grudges. It takes a village to converse with some of these dopes.
 
Rutgers is not the only team in the country with elite NBA talent. Have you watched Duke? Auburn? Bama? Illinois? They have set plays to get their shooters in position to knock down shots. Why is it every year Rutgers struggles to find open 3pt looks?
Those teams have competent roll players. We do not.
 
I certainly blame Pike for players being out of position and poor defense and rebounding since that’s his expertise. My understanding in Knight runs the offense. Pike’s fault for letting it continue. Maybe Knight isn’t so great at anything but recruiting.
Just maybe Knight isn't so great? and he's not a great recruiter either. Outside of this year most every recruiting class has been sub par.
 
It’s still a graveyard. I’m afraid people dont understand what the competitive landscape is. Rutgers is the worst big ten basketball coaching job. The rac is a good home court advantage but guess what it’s not better than tons of others. And it’s not just big ten teams. Creightin, Providence, Marquette pretty much everybody in the acc. Rutgers is a joke. People think Rutgers is great because they’ve never seen anything else. Good luck if things don’t work out with pike and I agree it’s a possibility. You’re dreaming if you think this is an attractive destination relative to about 70 other places that are better.
And we can still get a much better coach than we have, and for less money.
 
Exactly. Been saying that all year. Huge upside, but Ace is not playing anywhere near like a "lottery pick" right now and if he doesn't step up, I don't think he will be one, unless it truly is only about potential. 18/7 is nice, but his handle is suspect, he turns it over a lot without being a distributor (0.6 assists per game vs. 2.4 TOs a game) and his defense is mixed: good athletic rebounder, but out of position a lot and only 60% FTs. I keep hoping he "gets it" and truly takes off, but if he doesn't, we're unlikely to make the NCAAs. If he played better in the Kennesaw game and this game, we have 2 more wins.

But certainly part of that is on Pike, who has not been able to get this team to play well together and who didn't obtain good enough talent to complement the two stars, both valid criticisms. But not reasons to fire Pike (and certainly not reasons to treat our best coach in the last 40+ years like dirt) - if we don't make the NCAAs, which is not a given.
Nope. Tom Young was coaching 40+ years ago
 
There are 17 other schools in the BIG10 as well and we get a lot less money than them all even after being in the conference for 10 years.

And Revenue sharing hasn’t started yet. Teams haven’t been using conference $ to fill out rosters. NIL has been fueled by donors, small businesses and corporations….and Rutgers comes up when short compared to our peers.

The IQ of this board is insanely low sometimes.
Amazing we come up short. We have as many billionaire graduates as any of them, and more than most of them.
 
Pike was late to adopt NIL, he has struggled big time in the portal, and has failed to get over the bubble hump.

These things are just fact, it's not hating on the guy. And every off-season has been nothing but a gaslighting fest of this fan base, it's crazy.

The dude tried to say this off-season that the bigs wouldn't be an issue even though anyone with a functioning brain could say it was going to be a major issue.

I have my complaints about Pike, and I think he's a solid coach, but we're just at that point where people are sick of the BS and they want wins.

The team is just so weak on the glass, and that's on Pike considering he built this roster through the portal. Maybe people don't remember, but there were plenty of posters here knocking the Martini addition citing his lack of production on the glass when he signed. "No no, he shoots 3's and did the dirty work down low!"
I hated the Martini signing when it happened, and hate it even more now. He isn't a basketball player. He may look okay playing against the Ivy League generally where you don't have top level ballers, but against real basketball talent, he is not playable.
 
Yup. Where do you draw the line? How bad does it have to get? Do we have to slide back to where we were when Pike got here? If that's the case, what a waste of time and resources. The point should be to stop the cycle of letting the program crater before action is taken.
You’re back there next year! Coach has let the game pass him bye! Not worried I am pretty confident Pike walks away after this year. He realizes that he set a standard and has taken the program backward for 5 going on 6 years. His reputation with top recruits will be lost. Start looking for a new coach.
 
How about higher donations to the R Fund and NIL. How much are you in for?
Won’t help a coach who has no clue what he’s doing. It’s actually become embarrassing on how bad he’s outcoached and how awful his lack of adjustments are.

The Lee Martini sequence with zero adjustments 4 plays in a row. Then Pike finally used a time out. We all said “ about fuc$;: time”.

He walks out of the time out with the same lineup ZERO adjustments. No smaller line up to take away the big iso, no zone to stop penetration, no hard double on the screen to get the ball out of Lee’s hands.

Pike time to go!
 
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