Possible Coaching Options
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An assistant coach can only do so much when it comes to recruiting, the head coach still has to close the deal. Same with the recruiting coordinator.
Maryland is in a similar situation with regards to Locksley and Edsall.
No argument. Just stating why I think people have been less than thrilled with Flood having hired Campanile. Maybe we're getting more interest but still no commits because of him, I have no idea if the move has been successful. But it was perceived that he was going to improve our North NJ recruiting and the results have not come yet.
Oh I agree. I wonder if a guy like Hadley would even have a big effect on our recruiting.
The 170th post and the best you can come up with is
P.J. Fleck[roll] Not P5 material just so so in the Mac
Matt Rhule <<< A fine choice for OC if Ben McDaniels flops
Greg Roman[roll],, Is that the best???
Greg Schiano[roll] << JH and Greg will start dating [sick] OIL and Water
Ben McDaniels,,[roll]<<<< can we see if he can coach the offense first
Here is a choice Kyle Flood
He has the best coaches record in 145 years of Rutgers history after 3 years.
Only Rutgers coach to take all his teams to a bowl game.
Only Rutgers coach with a Conference Championship to his name.
He is despised by the sum liars. <that is worth my vote NOW
He has and is proving successful on football field and in the classroom.
He care about his players more than he cares about coaching career.
P.J. Fleck[roll] Not P5 material just so so in the Mac
Matt Rhule <<< A fine choice for OC if Ben McDaniels flops
Greg Roman[roll],, Is that the best???
Greg Schiano[roll] << JH and Greg will start dating [sick] OIL and Water
Ben McDaniels,,[roll]<<<< can we see if he can coach the offense first
Here is a choice Kyle Flood
He has the best coaches record in 145 years of Rutgers history after 3 years.
Only Rutgers coach to take all his teams to a bowl game.
Only Rutgers coach with a Conference Championship to his name.
He is despised by the sum liars. <that is worth my vote NOW
He has and is proving successful on football field and in the classroom.
He care about his players more than he cares about coaching career.
Hate to say it but UMD's Locksley has been a homerun to them but I've yet to see Campaniles value in high profile local kids from North Jersey end up here. .....wheres the beef. Remember though Locksley was a bust as HC at New Mexico. Until Lox was forced on UMD Edsall had a near mutiny on his hands and kids were leaving UA and all. We benefitted with RJ Dill ALL Star LT. Mike Locksley stemmed the bleeding or RE wouldn't have survived IMO.
Oh I think DEFINITLY... Hafley was a top notch North Jersey recruiter for Wannstadt at Pitt before Greg hired him after Wanny got canned....our recruiting skyrocketed and I thought another yr or 2 we'd have that fence GS talked about around NJ..
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A win Saturday will go a long way to restoring my faith in him....I sense a great inspired game after the bad taste left in my mouth after last weeks game.I'd love to see him succeed.
I still hope Flood succeeds, but I'm not convinced his game coaching is getting better. I think the email scandal is overblown and don't blame Flood for the actions of Carroo on Saturday night. Did he give too many chances to the other pinheads? Maybe, but I am sure that will be different in the future. So I want him to stand or fall here based on his overall body of work. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Regarding your claims, though:
1 - Best coaches' record in 145 years - huh? He is now 24-17 as head coach (.585 winning pct). Frank Burns was a .643 percentage in his time here. George Sanford (1913-1923) was .629. Harvey Harman was .625 over 14 seasons from before WWII and 1946-55.
If you mean in the "modern era" and say that started with Dick Anderson - that's pretty low hanging fruit. Anderson was a bad fit as head coach. Graber did not have the support system in place to help keep guys out of trouble and academically eligible, but he got some big time players to come here. Shea drove the program off the cliff. Schiano did one of the best rebuilding jobs in all of college football to turn us into a respectable above average program.
2 - Only coach to take all of his teams to a bowl game: he's only the second coach we've had in the era where there are enough bowls to make that easier, and as I stated above: Schiano took over one of the worst programs in the country. Not even Urban Meyer would have had us bowling in those first few seasons.
For me to want Flood to stay on long-term, I want to see better game coaching (timeout management was lousy last weekend) and flexibility at handling the QB spot if the guy he wants to call the starter is not getting it done. Hopefully Laviano plays better every game and that is not even a concern, but if Laviano struggles and Flood stays with him no matter what, I will want to see a change.
Winning Saturday would do this program a WORLD of good.
With a Micro Wave Texas NOT Happy...Charlie Strong could be looking for a new gig!!!
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Agree with most of what you said.....Saturday will go a LONG way to healing my doubts....I'm really tired of the uncertainty here....get er done KF.
I realize I said I thought the email scandal was overblown, but that was before I read the report. Now, not so much.
I still think a win Saturday would do wonders for us all.
I still think a win Saturday would do wonders for us all.
Why not Greg Roman? I know he's only been in the college game for a few years, 2009-2010 at Stanford, but he would be a hire that would generate some name recognition. Plus he's a Jersey guy.
Sorry Mrs. Flood that ship has sailed.
If we must go cheap, KC Keeler should really be heavily considered. He can coach quarterbacks. Hes's a legit gameday coach. He won championships at Rowan and Deleware. He's PA native also; so he basically identify with our local recruiting area. He did well his first season at Sam Houston year. Last week his Sam Houston squad hung with Texas tech 59-45. Keeler can really coach. Perfect cheap option, who would win here.
The only thing funnier than the notion of Coach Rhule leaving Temple for Rutgers is the notion that Coach Rhule would leave Temple to be a coordinator at Rutgers.
I think much more likely Schiano will coach the Giants before Coughlin coaches Rutgers.
He did have a player tied to a murder. Hardly a reason not to bring him back, but let's be accurate.
This fits! Texas does not! Charlie Strong can be exactly what this program needs, tough coach(the fact he took the Texas job in the first place, should tell you that). Prides himself on a tough D(X Defensive back), and is versatile enough to understand that QB play is the Key in College Football. Could be a great recruiter for Rutgers. And, of course there is the obvious connection with Julie.
I think his problems at Texas stem from the boosters, more than his abilities to coach and recruit.
He is from Arkansas originally, but I don't think that will really hurt his recruiting efforts for RU. My real problem will be with his current salary, which is around 5 Million! But, you never know...
This is rutgers. Assume we'll stick with flood for 2 to 3 more years until you actually see him fired. I have zero expectations that things will change any time soon.
It won't change, you are right, if we continue with that sort of logic. Alumnus, boosters(as few as we have), have a huge voice in colleges across the country. Throw in Public Opinion, a good old fashion scandal, and you have the ingredients for change. Don't sell yourself short, or this fan base.
He is killing the Texas program with all the resouces in the world. Has done nothing without Teddy Bridgewater. Recruiting has not been great at all in Texas. Own players and team has been getting worse.
The more I read that, the more I thought of what a great pairing a triple-option OC and Greg Schiano would be.
Wow....you see the Temple gig superior than ANY B1G HC job....I mean its not like Rhules an alum with old ties there.
Re-read what he said about Rhule. He said he did not see Rhule stepping away from being the head coach at Temple to become a coordinator at Rutgers. I agree with that, unless Rhule thought he was about to be fired (which he obviously is not).
Now, if he thinks Rhule would rather stay head coach at Temple than be head coach at Rutgers, I would disagree - unless he felt that a better P5 head coaching position was headed his way in the near future.
Catchy and often repeated, but I strongly disagree. You need only to look at our own team for proof. There are many, many coaches out there who have gotten much more out of talent at the levels we have had at RU under Flood and Schiano. A great X and O coach wins the Big East probably twice, and a good coach would have had us in the games against the top of the league last year, instead of getting our doors blown off. There is a reason Schiano consistently had trouble with certain things (WVU, Cinci, spread O's) -- because of his own coaching deficiencies and the fact that WVU and Cinci had significantly better coaching. Players do not win in college football, coaches do -- the evidence is everywhere.
Get a guy who is charismatic and a great gameday coach. He will coach up the players on roster when he takes over, and wins will lead to improved recruiting. Hiring "coaches" who are primarily recruiters is a huge gamble. Look at Franklin. If he does not start winning by next year, he is not going to keep having success recruiting. The results always catch up with the recruiters, and the recruiters never make it to the top of college football.
well that I agree with....but even the worst B1G schools HC would have to be considered if you're coaching in almost any non P5 school.....and I like Temple but common sense dictates this unless their are extenuating circumstances.
Here is the thing about Rhule. The conversation goes like this "sure we can meet your salary demands but we want a huge buyout if PSU ever comes calling". Then he hangs up. It's Cristobol 2.0.
Yeah but the coach puts Jimmy and Joe in position to meet or exceed their talent level coming to college. They find ways to gain schematic advantages against other teams, and give overmatched teams a chance to be competitive and possibly win if Jimmy and Joe can execute at a high percentage.
If the coaches are too stubborn to play to their strengths, insist on running a system for which the on field talent is ill-suited, are poor clock managers, are poor at recognizing and adjusting to the other team, do not recognize schematic advantages (for both their own team, and the advantages the other team is exploiting in-game) you aren't going to make it to many big bowl games. Those types of coaches are only going to win if the players execute at a high percentage, which isn't normally going to be the case.
I look at it a lot like poker, because like in poker, a great coach can only put his players in a position to win, he can never guarantee it because the players have to play the game. In poker, the cards are random, just like the rate at which the players execute on any given Saturday. A great poker player doesn't need the best cards to win -- he can give himself a good chance of winning the hand regardless of the cards. Conversely, a bad poker player can always get a lucky draw (like when the players execute at a very high percentage in a given game). If that happens, no one is going to beat him in that game. But over time, the lucky days where the players execute at a very high level are pretty darn uncommon, and the player who puts himself in a position to win the most often will come out ahead.
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