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Pressure put back on Rutgers (‘It’s up to Rutgers’: Greg Schiano deal close but needs board approval

If he fails, we can't blame the school for it.

But it all depends on what you are looking for him to do.

In realistic I worry that so many on here will be disappointed when he doesnt reach the pinnacle so many think he reached previously
 
If he fails, we can't blame the school for it.

But it all depends on what you are looking for him to do.
Really? If things don’t work out and we’re stuck in a contract longer than we want Hobbs and the admin will be blamed. 20/20 is always in effect and if the guarantees are high it would be justified. Can’t just assume everything goes rosy have to have an out should things not work the way you’d want.

If those numbers and years reported are true hopefully it’s not fully guaranteed and there’s a manageable out.
 
I think the simple reason why this has to happen is that there is NO "Plan B".

If the Schiano deal goes sideways there isn't a single candidate that would give us a fair look. Anyone would know, going in, that they would be the most hated person on the planet for having committed the sin of not being Greg Schiano.

At this point, there is no other option.
 
This guy is awful, no question, yikes!

To Schiano nut huggers. He’s had 4 alleged jobs since 2012 and actually worked less than 4 years. He did a good job here a long time ago. Now he’s holding RU hostage? Because the AD picked a bum to coach. Sad sad sad.
 
To Schiano nut huggers. He’s had 4 alleged jobs since 2012 and actually worked less than 4 years. He did a good job here a long time ago. Now he’s holding RU hostage? Because the AD picked a bum to coach. Sad sad sad.

Curious then....your choice would be?
 
Why do you even post here or care what Rutgers fans think?

Don't you have your own school to worry about?

You don't have to answer, I am just going to add you to the list anyway.
 
And if by chance he fails? I want to see what excuses will be tossed around. Way too much support for Schiano over Rutgers going on. Perhaps Schiano needs to settle for things in a timeline and stop playing Verucca Salt and saying BUT I WANT IT NOOOOW

He might fail to win enough games. Then again, he may also succeed. So what?

I'd rather be left with first class infrastructure either way.

Plus, anyone who shows up for a pay check is definitely going to fail. GS is doing right by Rutgers here. Rutgers needs to help itself for once.
 
This isn’t happening prepare yourself.

The more I think about it the current coach is better. Just make him the coach. Doesn’t have all the baggage and whatever other issues. He can go .500 just as easily as Gary would. And without the reality show drama.

Not a shrink but something isn’t right with your hero Gary.
 
To Schiano nut huggers. He’s had 4 alleged jobs since 2012 and actually worked less than 4 years. He did a good job here a long time ago. Now he’s holding RU hostage? Because the AD picked a bum to coach. Sad sad sad.
When two parties have very little leverage, power goes to the one with slightly MORE leverage...that’s Schiano, NOT Rutgers. If indeed it is GS that is hired, I recommend doing a personal boycott of Rutgers Football!
 
This is you guys when your hero does what he does. Not show up.
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Just to put it in perspective, Ash's contract guaranteed ~$3.25 million in assistant coach salaries.
Want to put it in perspective... I’m pretty sure an assistant salary pool of 7-8 million would be highest in the country or close to it. When you’re hitting 6 million you’re already up there but 7-8 million is huge.
 
Ask Cuse/Pitt/Temple fans what they thought about GS the 1st time around. They hated that Rutgers was beating them and thought GS must be cheating. Used car salesman. Some people on this site bought their BS. "He promised us championships". Like it was easy to win here. We will be a middle of the pack B1G team within 4 years. Not middle of the pack East Division, middle of the pack overall. That is a huge, huge improvement over where we stand and the Stadium will be full. Do you expect us to move past Ohio State/Michigan? Be prepared to demand that GS be fired. And check your sanity at the door. "We paid him $4 million, we should beat Ohio State". The stupidity of some is astounding.
 
Want to put it in perspective... I’m pretty sure an assistant salary pool of 7-8 million would be highest in the country or close to it. When you’re hitting 6 million you’re already up there but 7-8 million is huge.
Goes to show Schiano is leaving no stone unturned in his effort to build a winner
OR
What's being said is just rumor and speculation because no one knows what Schiano has said he needs and guesses are being considered as facts.

My guess is a standard 5 year contract, reasonable salary for Greg and his and staff.
But what Schiano wants over and above that will be covered by the boosters pushing for his return , or no return.
I would guess fully guaranteed 5 year contract by RU ,any extra years will be partially guaranteed ( up to 5th year) and boosters cover that.
After 5th year School assumes full guarantee
My salary guess
Expect RU to pay Schiano around 3 mil salary ,boosters add 1 mil.
Yearly increases, to RU's portion, until 5th year. Boosters part remains the same
Staff RU pays 3.5 mil, boosters 1.5
Increase on the part Rutgers pays , boosters remain at 1.5 mil.

My speculation seems far fetched, but agree with the implication 7-8 mil a year for staff seems a bit much , which makes my theory a little easier to take :Sly:
 
He might fail to win enough games. Then again, he may also succeed. So what?

I'd rather be left with first class infrastructure either way.

Plus, anyone who shows up for a pay check is definitely going to fail. GS is doing right by Rutgers here. Rutgers needs to help itself for once.

And Hobbs has been doing exactly that. His problem in manys eyes is he is spreading it around(with Football improvements completed and more scheduled.) There is no need to bum rush Rutgers or the AD to demand everything be done yesterday
 
This isn’t happening prepare yourself.

The more I think about it the current coach is better. Just make him the coach. Doesn’t have all the baggage and whatever other issues. He can go .500 just as easily as Gary would. And without the reality show drama.

Not a shrink but something isn’t right with your hero Gary.

As much as I think Schiano is demanding to much I do believe he is the right guy for the here and now.
 
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I think the simple reason why this has to happen is that there is NO "Plan B".

If the Schiano deal goes sideways there isn't a single candidate that would give us a fair look. Anyone would know, going in, that they would be the most hated person on the planet for having committed the sin of not being Greg Schiano.

At this point, there is no other option.

While I think you overstate the level of hate someone not named GS would endure, I believe you are correct in that there does not appear to be any semblance of a Plan B. The presence of a plan B might actually have helped bring this to closure by now. This better happen because if not we are back to square one and Hobbs will be under a level of pressure he has never felt before in this job.
 
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Goes to show Schiano is leaving no stone unturned in his effort to build a winner
OR
What's being said is just rumor and speculation because no one knows what Schiano has said he needs and guesses are being considered as facts.

My guess is a standard 5 year contract, reasonable salary for Greg and his and staff.
But what Schiano wants over and above that will be covered by the boosters pushing for his return , or no return.
I would guess fully guaranteed 5 year contract by RU ,any extra years will be partially guaranteed ( up to 5th year) and boosters cover that.
After 5th year School assumes full guarantee
My salary guess
Expect RU to pay Schiano around 3 mil salary ,boosters add 1 mil.
Yearly increases, to RU's portion, until 5th year. Boosters part remains the same
Staff RU pays 3.5 mil, boosters 1.5
Increase on the part Rutgers pays , boosters remain at 1.5 mil.

My speculation seems far fetched, but agree with the implication 7-8 mil a year for staff seems a bit much , which makes my theory a little easier to take :Sly:

I believe that 7 8 million number included Schiano salary so 4 for Schiano 4 for assistants
 
who is voting no?

Mark A. Angelson, Chair
Dorothy W. Cantor, Vice Chair

Keith T. Banks
Robert L. Barchi, ex officio
William E. Best
Greg Brown
Margaret T. Derrick
Mary I. DiMartino
Frank B. Hundley
Susan M. McCue
Martin Perez
Richard W. Roper
Sandy J. Stewart
William M. Tambussi
Heather C. Taylor

Rachel J. Kaye, Senate Representative
Jon L. Oliver, Senate Representative
Abhishek C. Kashalikar, Student Representative

OFFICERS OF THE BOARD
J. Michael Gower, Treasurer
Kimberlee M. Pastva, Secretary
Patrick L. Melillo, Associate Secretary
Mark A Angelson, Margaret T. Derrick, Frank B. Hundley and Greg Brown won't be the one's voting, "NO". As they're on the Athletic Committee which would recommend Schiano to the Full board for a vote.
 
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Hire Campanile. He’s 100 times the coach Ash is and probably as good as Gary without all these demands and drama.
 
who is voting no?

Mark A. Angelson, Chair
Dorothy W. Cantor, Vice Chair

Keith T. Banks
Robert L. Barchi, ex officio
William E. Best
Greg Brown
Margaret T. Derrick
Mary I. DiMartino
Frank B. Hundley
Susan M. McCue
Martin Perez
Richard W. Roper
Sandy J. Stewart
William M. Tambussi
Heather C. Taylor

Rachel J. Kaye, Senate Representative
Jon L. Oliver, Senate Representative
Abhishek C. Kashalikar, Student Representative

OFFICERS OF THE BOARD
J. Michael Gower, Treasurer
Kimberlee M. Pastva, Secretary
Patrick L. Melillo, Associate Secretary
At the very least, remove the non-voting members from the list.
 
It's less a question of how much Rutgers wants this as a question of how much private donors are willing to pledge money to make it happen.


Ding, ding, ding! Agree.

Sometimes I think that RU thinks it is just a landlord to RU FB. They provide the facilities and the Athletic Dept is responsible for the economics of the program.
 
Not according to KS in their podcast. He said 12M total with 4-5 to GS which leaves 7-8 for assistants and support staff and he said 7-8 years.

Then that is a demand because I understood Rutgers was willing to go to numbers I listed
 
this I agree with . No more than 3mm a year or we're overpaying as we could certainly do better for 5mm a year

Who would that be? Who actually wants to come here and take this on?

A lot of the names that some people want around here want nothing to do with this job for any amount of money when they can get that same money elsewhere.

The two biggest names that wanted this job was Schiano and Jones, and of those two only Schiano wants it long term.

Maybe Moorhead might show some interest if he gets fired??? But is he better than Schiano?

Remember the podcast is just guessing. We won't know the real number until it is made public.
 
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Keep the guy you have he’s doing a great job. 2 million a year. Bump up OC and DC to 1 million.

If he can recruit NJ it’s a home run.

Schiano is primadonna.

If he stayed he would have all the stuff he wants by now. But he didn’t.
 
And if by chance he fails? I want to see what excuses will be tossed around. Way too much support for Schiano over Rutgers going on. Perhaps Schiano needs to settle for things in a timeline and stop playing Verucca Salt and saying BUT I WANT IT NOOOOW
RUhouston said the exact same thing in another thread... Verucca Salt references? Coincidence? I think someone is throwing a temper tantrum.. and its not Schiano.
 
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Keep the guy you have he’s doing a great job. 2 million a year. Bump up OC and DC to 1 million.

If he can recruit NJ it’s a home run.

Schiano is primadonna.

If he stayed he would have all the stuff he wants by now. But he didn’t.
You... You don't watch college football, do you?
 
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