Could be, but then shouldn't the plan be to have him focus on defense and ball movement and not shoot unless you have a clear shot? That does not seem to be happening.
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He looked how I’d expect a highly touted freshman getting his first D1 action to look in that St. John’s scrimmage. Yes, not the most efficient from the floor — but you could see flashes there. Somehow he seems to have gotten progressively worse since that first game action.
Confusing, but those early flashes are what I’m using to convince myself he may have something to offer down the line. As you said, have to hope it’s purely confidence and he’ll look like a whole new player with another offseason
Jeremiah Williams has provided some leadership and stability for the offense since his arrival. Minus the Minnesota game, id like to see Gav run with jwill a little...see if he can unlock him.
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Fernandez is smaller and a known 3 point shooter. Even he is able to get some open looks. Everything GG does is contested. Is it him and/or the staff the reason for this?
Our elite defense gives up open looks to guys that are very good 3 point shooters.
Our elite defense gives up open looks to guys that are very good 3 point shooters.
This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Tell me you are losing an argument without telling me your losing an argument: personal attacks and random "quotes" without providing actual qutoes.
I didn't "cite" you. I specifically quoted you.
Unlike you quoting me saying "Cam sucks". Still waiting for that quote.
I even did work for you once to make it easier.
The only reason there were "one or two and done" comments were because of you (and others) proving "expert" opinions on Gavin.
Such as:
- Starter as a freshman
- One of the teams leading scorer
- One of the top Big Ten Freshman
- Elite shooter and scorer from day 1
Without these "expert" predictions, no one would have mentioned one or two and done.
Believe me, I'm sure these "experts evaluations" wont spur any future one and done talk around here.
Nicky-You're adorable, but not the sharpest knife in the drawer.Don't see you as an analyst at Goldman. Citing,for those of us in the business of citing cases is, indeed quoting. Nice clean-up on acumen. Let's work on "qutoes" next.
Part of Gavin’s issues are the unrealistic expectations set by people who put him on a pedestal saying best Rutgers recruit ever. I hope it works out for him, but early returns have been nothing like some “experts” suggested
Yes we get it you flaunt your occupation as if anyone cares.
Analyst at Goldman? Eh. Too far from the Wall Street/Puerto 11 ferry to work there. Besides their return of office policy is to restrictive.
https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-citation-and-vs-quotation/
Experts have been evaluating talent since Jim Thorpe played at Carlisle.
There’s nothing unrealistic or unreasonable about thinking a 5 star player shouldn’t look completely lost.
Nicky- I don't have the time, nor inclination to track down gibberish and this will be the end of the dialogue. But I was at Seton Hall-UConn, as apparently were you, after strangely asking for a board referendum on whether you should attend. And while there, you issued, to my best and fondest recollection, the words that UConn and Cam both stink. I believe that I am actually awaiting a response on whether the mystery Tosan is indeed in the NBA. Did he actually have 12 rebounds in a half?
It’s not only that he looks lost but he cannot even shoot free throws. He is 52% from line. There is nobody in this world that would predict that the best pure shooter Rutgers ever recruited could do that. In my opinion, it’s in his head now and it’s going to take a shrink to improve his confidence
What was his free throw percentage in high school, what were his true shooting percentage’s during competition?
What was his 3 point shooting percentage?
Apparently I'm supposed to care and be offended about his expert opinion of my job qualifications?
Although - based on his evaluations of Gavin (the actual topic on hand) that comment is actually a compliment. Since he is pretty bad at evaluating how people will perform.
I guess throwing around your occupation on an internet message board is some sort of status symbol.
The irony of him saying that is actually very funny. As if "analyst at Goldman" is some epic accomplishment.
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Rutgers has the second-fastest tempo in the Big Ten. Can you let me know how fast we need to play to make Gavin Griffiths a good player instead of a player with the lowest offensive rating of any real rotation player in the league?
People only remember the couple of months he had the fifth star not that he finished as a 4* or was a 4* most of his recruitment.
Wait what - you think we’re recruiting another guard that’s going to solve Gavin’s problems? Maybe we bring in a guard if Davis, Simpson William’s or GG leave. But there’s no way there is mystery guard out there waiting to come in - computer for time with Dylan and 3 starters and help Gavin find his way.
Gavin's defense did improve a ton this season which shows that he is coachable and the effort is there
Would love to see a breakout game before the season is over offensively to give more hope.for next season. Have to think next year he can at minimum be an effective spot up 3 point shooter off the bench with Ace Dylan and JWill drawing attention and creating more open looks
He's lost confidence. Looks like some possessions he pre determines he's going to shoot. The game is moving fast for him etc etc
Would love to see a breakout game before the season is over offensively to give more hope.for next season. Have to think next year he can at minimum be an effective spot up 3 point shooter off the bench with Ace Dylan and JWill drawing attention and creating more open looks
He's lost confidence. Looks like some possessions he pre determines he's going to shoot. The game is moving fast for him etc etc
It’s all an in exact science. He finished as the top 4* recruit.
You can never predict learning curve though because there are so many variables at play with each player’s transition to college.
Just need to be patient & not repeat all the stupidity like with Paul, Caleb & others, and trust the staff’s development plan for him.
He is rushing things because the game is moving so fast for him. He really needs to slow down, let the shots come to him and lock in on defense. I would much rather see him catch, throw a shot fake and drive / pass vs tossing up a fast shot. Not everyone is ready to compete at this level right away. After a good offseason, he should be much more prepared for the Big Ten.
we've had a lot worse....he's not a total stiff. it's his production relative to hype & expectations that's very low.
I think that Gavin eventually gets his feet under him and becomes a very good player.
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