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1. Awful performance against a low major. Only reason we won is that Ace Bailey played a great game and hit shots that nobody else can hit. 23 points on 9-15 (2-4) shooting.

2. Defense is still bad. Couldn’t contain Clark, who abused everybody (especially JMike) off the dribble all night on his way to 22 points (10-19 from the field). Let up a ton of open threes, but Merrimack was only 4-24 from deep. We especially struggled on pick and roll and high screen action.

3. Our zone offense was mind numbingly bad, and a lot of the problem was Pike’s ridiculous rotations. In a game where we knew we would face a 3-2 zone the entire game, why did Ogbole play 19 minutes? This should’ve been the game where Martini played 20 minutes at the center spot. Hayes only played 14 minutes. Our best 3-point shooters (Hayes and Martini) only combined to shoot 5 threes, and we only shot 17 threes out of a total of 60 shots (so only 29% of our shots were from deep, a terribly low number against a zone defense). It’s like we didn’t even practice zone offense over the past five days.

4. We kept trying to force the ball into the paint, whether on post entries or dribble drives, but Merrimack’s zone defense did a great job collapsing and forcing tough mid-range jumpers and short floaters, and whereas we were money on short twos in the previous three games, we were awful tonight, short-arming a ton of those shots. We’re we’re just 18-43 on 2-point shots tonight, just 41.8%.

5. I don’t think we scored ANY points in transition, as Merrimack did a superb job of getting back on defense and immediately setting up their zone, and they immediately found their man on defense. So this became a tortuous half-court game.
 
So many negative posts on this board right now. Pike is building this team and working out rotations. Right now he’s got 10 guys all playing decent minutes. I think Williams splits are gonna look bad after this game.

And does it really matter, this game was never in doubt. With our diaper dandy duo, they’re not losing this game. Might as well let them work through some things.

My assessment.

Stock up:
Jamichael
Martini

In the middle:
Acuff

Stock down:
PJ
Williams

Jordan, Somerville and EO’s roles are cemented. And yeah this is the game to give EO more minutes than he would normally see.
 
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1. Awful performance against a low major. Only reason we won is that Ace Bailey played a great game and hit shots that nobody else can hit. 23 points on 9-15 (2-4) shooting.

2. Defense is still bad. Couldn’t contain Clark, who abused everybody (especially JMike) off the dribble all night on his way to 22 points (10-19 from the field). Let up a ton of open threes, but Merrimack was only 4-24 from deep. We especially struggled on pick and roll and high screen action.

3. Our zone offense was mind numbingly bad, and a lot of the problem was Pike’s ridiculous rotations. In a game where we knew we would face a 3-2 zone the entire game, why did Ogbole play 19 minutes? This should’ve been the game where Martini played 20 minutes at the center spot. Hayes only played 14 minutes. Our best 3-point shooters (Hayes and Martini) only combined to shoot 5 threes, and we only shot 17 threes out of a total of 60 shots (so only 29% of our shots were from deep, a terribly low number against a zone defense). It’s like we didn’t even practice zone offense over the past five days.

4. We kept trying to force the ball into the paint, whether on post entries or dribble drives, but Merrimack’s zone defense did a great job collapsing and forcing tough mid-range jumpers and short floaters, and whereas we were money on short twos in the previous three games, we were awful tonight, short-arming a ton of those shots. We’re we’re just 18-43 on 2-point shots tonight, just 41.8%.

5. I don’t think we scored ANY points in transition, as Merrimack did a superb job of getting back on defense and immediately setting up their zone, and they immediately found their man on defense. So this became a tortuous half-court game.
Your points 3 and 4 were on point . I thought O played as well as he could but he was still bad. If you’re the D, you’ll take him getting post ups all day. How do we not get our best 3 shooters more minutes and more looks. Did we even try to run a set play for any of them? How about putting Ace more in the dunker spot. How about playing smaller with Martini at the 5? I would have put Harper at the high post and let him catch and drive right at the D. Big O just clogging up the lane. At least let him come up and set some screens
 
So many negative posts on this board right now. Pike is building this team and working out rotations. Right now he’s got 10 guys all playing decent minutes. I think Williams splits are gonna look bad after this game.

And does it really matter, this game was never in doubt. With our diaper dandy duo, they’re not losing this game. Might as well let them work through some things.

My assessment.

Stock up:
Jamichael
Martini

In the middle:
Acuff

Stock down:
PJ
Williams

Jordan, Somerville and EO’s roles are cemented. And yeah this is the game to give EO more minutes than he would normally see.
Huh? Jamichael was poor tonight and Martini didn't have the best night either.
 
So many negative posts on this board right now. Pike is building this team and working out rotations. Right now he’s got 10 guys all playing decent minutes. I think Williams splits are gonna look bad after this game.

And does it really matter, this game was never in doubt. With our diaper dandy duo, they’re not losing this game. Might as well let them work through some things.

My assessment.

Stock up:
Jamichael
Martini

In the middle:
Acuff

Stock down:
PJ
Williams

Jordan, Somerville and EO’s roles are cemented. And yeah this is the game to give EO more minutes than he would normally see.
Davis was god awful. Got taken to school by their little guard and missed the only shot he took. What game were you watching? Martini also did very little tonight
 
Bad takes all around.
We’ve got a brutal stretch coming up. He’s trying to win games and not overuse guys. Yeah the game was a little closer than anyone liked but we won by double digits.
Plus - and this is big - there has only been a small hint of the press you know is coming out next week.
 
So many negative posts on this board right now. Pike is building this team and working out rotations. Right now he’s got 10 guys all playing decent minutes. I think Williams splits are gonna look bad after this game.

And does it really matter, this game was never in doubt. With our diaper dandy duo, they’re not losing this game. Might as well let them work through some things.

My assessment.

Stock up:
Jamichael
Martini

In the middle:
Acuff

Stock down:
PJ
Williams

Jordan, Somerville and EO’s roles are cemented. And yeah this is the game to give EO more minutes than he would normally see.
This game was absolutely in doubt. We were only up 8 points in the second half, with momentum against us. You don’t play Ogbole 19 minutes just because he needs work. This was the game to play small ball with Martini at the 5.

Also, not sure why PJ would be stock down. Pike should be stock down for playing Ogbole 19 minutes but Hayes only 14 minutes. AGAINST A ZONE DEFENSE.

Let that sink in.
 
Bad takes all around.
We’ve got a brutal stretch coming up. He’s trying to win games and not overuse guys. Yeah the game was a little closer than anyone liked but we won by double digits.
Plus - and this is big - there has only been a small hint of the press you know is coming out next week.
Saw one press where they got burned really bad.
 
1. We always are too critical of our performance regardless of what went down

2. Once the agenda is established on this site, Rutgers will never outlive it. Merrimack shot 40% from the field and 16% from 3. We outrebounded them by 13.

3. Since we don't face zone defense often, it's not like Rutgers can suddenly run it to perfection in a few days. Btw, we shot 41% from 3

4. Since we probably didn't practice how to attack, it would be difficult to pass inside the zone. I think PJ would have been better at the FT line than Derkack. PJ is a better shot-maker and, with that, opens up better passing opportunities.

5. Fastbreak is hard when a team wants to muddy the game up by always dropping one to two defenders back after a shot.
 
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This game was absolutely in doubt. We were only up 8 points in the second half, with momentum against us. You don’t play Ogbole 19 minutes just because he needs work. This was the game to play small ball with Martini at the 5.

Also, not sure why PJ would be stock down. Pike should be stock down for playing Ogbole 19 minutes but Hayes only 14 minutes. AGAINST A ZONE DEFENSE.

Let that sink in.
PJ didnt do much in his minutes tonight. He also didn't have many looks as he seems to be the only one who draws attention beyond the arc, well besides Ace.
Thought Derkack was a little slow with has decision making tonight.
 
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Bad takes all around.
We’ve got a brutal stretch coming up. He’s trying to win games and not overuse guys. Yeah the game was a little closer than anyone liked but we won by double digits.
Plus - and this is big - there has only been a small hint of the press you know is coming out next week.
I hope you are right, if it not outright malpractice, this would be the reason.
I hope this is what we saw tonight.
 
1. Awful performance against a low major. Only reason we won is that Ace Bailey played a great game and hit shots that nobody else can hit. 23 points on 9-15 (2-4) shooting.

2. Defense is still bad. Couldn’t contain Clark, who abused everybody (especially JMike) off the dribble all night on his way to 22 points (10-19 from the field). Let up a ton of open threes, but Merrimack was only 4-24 from deep. We especially struggled on pick and roll and high screen action.

3. Our zone offense was mind numbingly bad, and a lot of the problem was Pike’s ridiculous rotations. In a game where we knew we would face a 3-2 zone the entire game, why did Ogbole play 19 minutes? This should’ve been the game where Martini played 20 minutes at the center spot. Hayes only played 14 minutes. Our best 3-point shooters (Hayes and Martini) only combined to shoot 5 threes, and we only shot 17 threes out of a total of 60 shots (so only 29% of our shots were from deep, a terribly low number against a zone defense). It’s like we didn’t even practice zone offense over the past five days.

4. We kept trying to force the ball into the paint, whether on post entries or dribble drives, but Merrimack’s zone defense did a great job collapsing and forcing tough mid-range jumpers and short floaters, and whereas we were money on short twos in the previous three games, we were awful tonight, short-arming a ton of those shots. We’re we’re just 18-43 on 2-point shots tonight, just 41.8%.

5. I don’t think we scored ANY points in transition, as Merrimack did a superb job of getting back on defense and immediately setting up their zone, and they immediately found their man on defense. So this became a tortuous half-court game
Clark scored 2 points in the second half. He was contained.
 
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PJ didnt do much in his minutes tonight. He also didn't have many looks as he seems to be the only one who draws attention beyond the arc, well besides Ace.
Thought Derkack was a little slow with has decision making tonight.
2 times he had looks he didn’t take.
I hope he shoots these shots moving forward
 
Bad takes all around.
We’ve got a brutal stretch coming up. He’s trying to win games and not overuse guys. Yeah the game was a little closer than anyone liked but we won by double digits.
Plus - and this is big - there has only been a small hint of the press you know is coming out next week.
This isn’t 1994 though, it’s almost as much about how you beat these teams. Penn State, for example, started in our KenPom neighborhood and is up to 35 after clobbering some bad teams, while we’ve slipped from 64 to 68.

There’s more than enough season left to make this not matter, but it’s still missed opportunity.
 
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Bad takes all around.
We’ve got a brutal stretch coming up. He’s trying to win games and not overuse guys. Yeah the game was a little closer than anyone liked but we won by double digits.
Plus - and this is big - there has only been a small hint of the press you know is coming out next week.
If you try to press a team with elite guards like Alabama, they will absolutely destroy you.
 
This isn’t 1994 though, it’s almost as much about how you beat these teams. Penn State, for example, started in our KenPom neighborhood and is up to 35 after clobbering some bad teams, while we’ve slipped from 64 to 68.

There’s more than enough season left to make this not matter, but it’s still missed opportunity.
But State Penn will come back to earth once league play starts. We should rise once we play Alabama and league teams.
 
Watching Alabama now I agree with you.
Cliff on the bench with foul trouble, complete non factor.
They have an embarrassment of riches
and they compete on every possession like few teams. Athletic, long and competitive. Going to have to hope they aren’t hitting 3s but they are so effective at taking it to the rim. Might be a game we have to play zone. Pike needs to start working on it now
 
1. Awful performance against a low major. Only reason we won is that Ace Bailey played a great game and hit shots that nobody else can hit. 23 points on 9-15 (2-4) shooting.

2. Defense is still bad. Couldn’t contain Clark, who abused everybody (especially JMike) off the dribble all night on his way to 22 points (10-19 from the field). Let up a ton of open threes, but Merrimack was only 4-24 from deep. We especially struggled on pick and roll and high screen action.

3. Our zone offense was mind numbingly bad, and a lot of the problem was Pike’s ridiculous rotations. In a game where we knew we would face a 3-2 zone the entire game, why did Ogbole play 19 minutes? This should’ve been the game where Martini played 20 minutes at the center spot. Hayes only played 14 minutes. Our best 3-point shooters (Hayes and Martini) only combined to shoot 5 threes, and we only shot 17 threes out of a total of 60 shots (so only 29% of our shots were from deep, a terribly low number against a zone defense). It’s like we didn’t even practice zone offense over the past five days.

4. We kept trying to force the ball into the paint, whether on post entries or dribble drives, but Merrimack’s zone defense did a great job collapsing and forcing tough mid-range jumpers and short floaters, and whereas we were money on short twos in the previous three games, we were awful tonight, short-arming a ton of those shots. We’re we’re just 18-43 on 2-point shots tonight, just 41.8%.

5. I don’t think we scored ANY points in transition, as Merrimack did a superb job of getting back on defense and immediately setting up their zone, and they immediately found their man on defense. So this became a tortuous half-court game.
Need to get Ogbole some minutes, we are going to need his size down the road.
 
Was an usher coaching tonight? There were so many coaching crimes tonight it wasnt funny.

It looked like we had no plan with the zone offense. It's like Pike said "I'm gonna let you guys try figure out how to beat a zone".

Why in the world are we passing to EO in the post and why is he trying to post up? Unreal.

LS thinks he is still on his high school team. We don't need most of those attempts from him. Does the staff coach anyone on good and not-so-good attempts?

Did we have a couple of hard practices this week? Dead legs tonight? Our finishing within 6 feet was BRUTAL tonight. Everyone seemed off and most were not strong to the basket.

I really like Derkack and Williams but Derkack tried to do too much against his former team and I'm still waiting for Williams to be efficient on offense. Williams can't get stripped on that last shot attempt. I hope the staff coaches him up on that.

I just don't see how Davis gets minutes this year, especially if you have Williams coming off the bench (which I think is smart).

We are going struggle defensively. I hope Pike can accept this and spend some time making us more efficient on offense.
 
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Bad takes all around.
We’ve got a brutal stretch coming up. He’s trying to win games and not overuse guys. Yeah the game was a little closer than anyone liked but we won by double digits.
Plus - and this is big - there has only been a small hint of the press you know is coming out next week.
This team right now looks like a sub .500 big ten team

A really good team with an inside game will make us look bad
We have to get better quick
 
Rutgers offense against the zone defense was poor.They should have a shooter at the top of the key who could take the shot or pass to the corners for open 3 pointers.It was upsetting seeing Hayes and Martini only take 5 five shots and have reduced minutes on the court.Rutgers missed far too many shots around the basket .Williams offense clearly is impacted by the shoulder injury.Bailey was the star of the game with 23 points.Harper had a quiet 14 points but made two big baskets at the end of the game.

The defense still has a difficult time guarding quick guards and are allowing far too many open 3 point shots.Rutgers has one more perceived easy game before the schedule gets far more difficult.Nobody really knows if this team is ready for the higher level of competition.There obviously is better talent on this team but the offense and defense execution needs marked improvement.
 
1. Awful performance against a low major. Only reason we won is that Ace Bailey played a great game and hit shots that nobody else can hit. 23 points on 9-15 (2-4) shooting.

2. Defense is still bad. Couldn’t contain Clark, who abused everybody (especially JMike) off the dribble all night on his way to 22 points (10-19 from the field). Let up a ton of open threes, but Merrimack was only 4-24 from deep. We especially struggled on pick and roll and high screen action.

3. Our zone offense was mind numbingly bad, and a lot of the problem was Pike’s ridiculous rotations. In a game where we knew we would face a 3-2 zone the entire game, why did Ogbole play 19 minutes? This should’ve been the game where Martini played 20 minutes at the center spot. Hayes only played 14 minutes. Our best 3-point shooters (Hayes and Martini) only combined to shoot 5 threes, and we only shot 17 threes out of a total of 60 shots (so only 29% of our shots were from deep, a terribly low number against a zone defense). It’s like we didn’t even practice zone offense over the past five days.

4. We kept trying to force the ball into the paint, whether on post entries or dribble drives, but Merrimack’s zone defense did a great job collapsing and forcing tough mid-range jumpers and short floaters, and whereas we were money on short twos in the previous three games, we were awful tonight, short-arming a ton of those shots. We’re we’re just 18-43 on 2-point shots tonight, just 41.8%.

5. I don’t think we scored ANY points in transition, as Merrimack did a superb job of getting back on defense and immediately setting up their zone, and they immediately found their man on defense. So this became a tortuous half-court game.
100%
 
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Was an usher coaching tonight? There were so many coaching crimes tonight it wasnt funny.

It looked like we had no plan with the zone offense. It's like Pike said "I'm gonna let you guys try figure out how to beat a zone".

Why in the world are we passing to EO in the post and why is he trying to post up? Unreal.

LS thinks he is still on his high school team. We don't need most of those attempts from him. Does the staff coach anyone on good and not-so-good attempts?

Did we have a couple of hard practices this week? Dead legs tonight? Our finishing within 6 feet was BRUTAL tonight. Everyone seemed off and most were not strong to the basket.

I really like Derkack and Williams but Derkack tried to do too much against his former team and I'm still waiting for Williams to be efficient on offense. Williams can't get stripped on that last shot attempt. I hope the staff coaches him up on that.

I just don't see how Davis gets minutes this year, especially if you have Williams coming off the bench (which I think is smart).

We are going struggle defensively. I hope Pike can accept this and spend some time making us more efficient on offense.
JWill, Derkack and JMike are far too redundant as far as skill sets and abilities: none are good shooters and they are all supposed to be plus defenders. We don’t need to play all three of them. Cut one out of the rotation, why do we need to play 3 defensive specialists (NONE OF WHOM IS OFFERING GREAT DEFENSE CURRENTLY BTW) who can’t do much offensively? Doesn’t make sense, just play Derkack and JWill.
 
Lets just be thankful that Merrimack had a bad shooting night.

With 6 minutes left i looked up at the board and saw we would be down 6 if they shot 33% from 3 and we would be down 23 if we flip flopped the 3 pt shooting %
 
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Your points 3 and 4 were on point . I thought O played as well as he could but he was still bad. If you’re the D, you’ll take him getting post ups all day. How do we not get our best 3 shooters more minutes and more looks. Did we even try to run a set play for any of them? How about putting Ace more in the dunker spot. How about playing smaller with Martini at the 5? I would have put Harper at the high post and let him catch and drive right at the D. Big O just clogging up the lane. At least let him come up and set some screens
How about Dylan attack from the wing
 
Was an usher coaching tonight? There were so many coaching crimes tonight it wasnt funny.

It looked like we had no plan with the zone offense. It's like Pike said "I'm gonna let you guys try figure out how to beat a zone".

Why in the world are we passing to EO in the post and why is he trying to post up? Unreal.

LS thinks he is still on his high school team. We don't need most of those attempts from him. Does the staff coach anyone on good and not-so-good attempts?

Did we have a couple of hard practices this week? Dead legs tonight? Our finishing within 6 feet was BRUTAL tonight. Everyone seemed off and most were not strong to the basket.

I really like Derkack and Williams but Derkack tried to do too much against his former team and I'm still waiting for Williams to be efficient on offense. Williams can't get stripped on that last shot attempt. I hope the staff coaches him up on that.

I just don't see how Davis gets minutes this year, especially if you have Williams coming off the bench (which I think is smart).

We are going struggle defensively. I hope Pike can accept this and spend some time making us more efficient on offense.
Davis was nearly unplayable. Embarrassed by his man every time and only scored 1 bucket. Acuff hasn’t shown much but should play more than Davis. Bigger and can hit a jumper or two. Davis has no game.
 
JWill, Derkack and JMike are far too redundant as far as skill sets and abilities: none are good shooters and they are all supposed to be plus defenders. We don’t need to play all three of them. Cut one out of the rotation, why do we need to play 3 defensive specialists (NONE OF WHOM IS OFFERING GREAT DEFENSE CURRENTLY BTW) who can’t do much offensively? Doesn’t make sense, just play Derkack and JWill.
Agree. Davis no value. A PG who can’t shoot, pass or defend….
 
Was a little concerned midway through the 2nd half with our offense struggling. And I'm wondering, "shouldn't Bailey be able to beat a team like Merrimack all by himself?" and then late in the game he took over.

I think that could have been the case from the jump, but Pike was trying to get everyone else in the flow.

Not going to go overboard negative after a double digit win.
 
Davis needs to see the bench. He’s generally decent on D but he can’t shoot and can’t make free throws. We need to tighten up the rotation a bit.
 
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