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RU, OSU, Temple to Hold Camp

Yes, because it all about the kids.
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Right, your guy is the model of selfless devotion to young men.


He is doing 27 camps this season. 1 in Australia. All of these include multiple coaches at various levels to get players exposure to college coaches and possible scholarships at all levels of college football. Not just Michigan. Of course Ash deciding to do a camp on the same day was done with fewer coaches instead attending the PC camp and of holding his camp on a different day allowing the kids access to 3 programs instead of 8.
Harbaugh invited Rutgers. Ash let his OSU Bias show and did nothing to help the kids of N.J.
Nice GIF though.
 
thevictors: There is a reason Harbaugh is doing 27 camps. Either Harbaugh can't close the local guys (OSU, MSU, ND :() or he thinks out-of-state players like those here in Jersey are superior :eek:. There is sufficient evidence to support both theories.
 
thevictors: There is a reason Harbaugh is doing 27 camps. Either Harbaugh can't close the local guys (OSU, MSU, ND :() or he thinks out-of-state players like those here in Jersey are superior :eek:. There is sufficient evidence to support both theories.

Specific to NJ Mich has offered 7 NJ kids 6 are still on the table 1 is a Rutgers commit, Bo Melton. This is out of 249 players offered in 2017. 11 offers to Michigan kids.
We view the world through different colored glasses. Me through Maize and you through Scarlet.
I'm not concerned with Harbaugh being able to close. I wouldn't make a general statement NJ players as a whole are superior but Mich has pulled some pretty good talent out of NJ. Peppers and Gary come to mind. Not many better players in the country. Those are the type of players the Mich and OSU's of the world want out of NJ And for the most part will have success doing.
Ash was a big time hire for Rutgers but he will have a hard time keeping the elite recruits in NJ until 2 things happen. Success on the field and a facilities upgrade.
I think I view these camps differently than you. Michigan and OSU as self sustaining programs can afford to see the elite recruits they want to see. The camps are to get the lesser known and talented kids who can't afford to travel in front of coaches and programs that can make a college education possible for them.
 
The camps are to get the lesser known and talented kids who can't afford to travel in front of coaches and programs that can make a college education possible for them.
If this is true, why isn't Harbaugh holding camp Alaska? Wouldn't kids who play football there need the most help getting exposure? Surely Saint James will make a stop there...

Let's cut the BS: These camps are calculated recruiting stunts orchestrated to woo targeted players under the guise of goodwill.
 
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You can always tell things are moving in the right direction when opposing fans feel the need to come on our board to tell us just how irrelevant we are. The brilliance of this move by Ash is that he tapped into years of built up anger and frustration towards PC, Partridge, and by extension Harbaugh and brought it to public light in a major way, I mean when was the last time Brian Toal publicly supported Rutgers? I believe the answer is never. Harbaugh needs to change his scorched earth recruiting strategy or risk becoming public enemy #1 in NJ.
 
Specific to NJ Mich has offered 7 NJ kids 6 are still on the table 1 is a Rutgers commit, Bo Melton. This is out of 249 players offered in 2017. 11 offers to Michigan kids.
We view the world through different colored glasses. Me through Maize and you through Scarlet.
I'm not concerned with Harbaugh being able to close. I wouldn't make a general statement NJ players as a whole are superior but Mich has pulled some pretty good talent out of NJ. Peppers and Gary come to mind. Not many better players in the country. Those are the type of players the Mich and OSU's of the world want out of NJ And for the most part will have success doing.
Ash was a big time hire for Rutgers but he will have a hard time keeping the elite recruits in NJ until 2 things happen. Success on the field and a facilities upgrade.
I think I view these camps differently than you. Michigan and OSU as self sustaining programs can afford to see the elite recruits they want to see. The camps are to get the lesser known and talented kids who can't afford to travel in front of coaches and programs that can make a college education possible for them.
Michigan and Ohio State aren't giving these camps to get lesser known recruits. They want the 5 and 4 stars recruits. If Michigan is going for 3 stars recruits, they are starting to get worse in recruiting. They are having a hard time keeping up with Ohio State who only has 1 3 star recruit.

Michigan needs to concentrate on 4 stars and up or the luster is starting to fade. Michigan has 8 3 star recruits already out of the 12 total recruits. The real top teams only have 1-3 3 stars recruits but I guess Harbaugh will dump the 3 stars at the end and tell them they have no space.
 
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If this is true, why isn't Harbaugh holding camp Alaska? Wouldn't kids who play football there need the most help getting exposure? Surely Saint James will make a stop there...

Let's cut the BS: These camps are calculated recruiting stunts orchestrated to woo targeted players under the guise of goodwill.

We will just have to agree to disagree.
If as you say these camps are only calculated recruiting stunts Why would Michigan invite both Maryland and Rutgers? Michigan was playing no games with the camp. Rutgers chose to decline the invitation and hold a camp on the same day.
As to cutting the BS. Alaska has put 0 players into FBS schools. virtually no kids to help. Michigan does recruit Hockey players in Alaska.
 
Our local hack reporter actually had a great line regarding inviting Rutgers:
That's like the senior class bully telling you that he'll be stealing your prom date but that, hey, you're welcome to ride in the limo! What could Rutgers possibly gain from accepting that offer?

Back to Alaska: If Saint James really wanted to help discover and provide additional exposure to underrated recruits, why hold camp in a dense state already known for producing FBS caliber talent? There are coaching staffs from all over the country already canvassing NJ. Couldn't Jimbo's "charity" be better utilized in more rural/isolated parts of the country? And when was the last time Michigan provided a scholarship to an underexposed player (only 1 or 2 D1 offers) anyway?

You don't honestly believe what you're selling, do you?
 
Michigan and Ohio State aren't giving these camps to get lesser known recruits. They want the 5 and 4 stars recruits. If Michigan is going for 3 stars recruits, they are starting to get worse in recruiting. They are having a hard time keeping up with Ohio State who only has 1 3 star recruit.

Michigan needs to concentrate on 4 stars and up or the luster is starting to fade. Michigan has 8 3 star recruits already out of the 12 total recruits. The real top teams only have 1-3 3 stars recruits but I guess Harbaugh will dump the 3 stars at the end and tell them they have no space.

Spin it how you like
OSU isn't giving these camps they are guest coaches. This is a PC camp with coaches from 2 big 10 schools and a bunch of ACC schools. The vast majority of the kids are 3 star and below and will never be offered by a Mich, OSU or Rutgers. But the lesser programs that can't afford to travel to recruit get to see lots of kids on the cheap.
The Mich and OSU's of the world will travel to see the 4 and 5 stars they are interested in. Camps are not needed. Take a look at 2016 recruiting. 1 5 star 15 4 stars 12. OSU 2 5 stars 15 4 stars
Mich is currently ranked # 8 nationally in recruiting. ranked 2nd in the B1G. OSU is #1 in both categories. UofM is playing catch up with OSU for sure but seems to be doing ok.
 
Our local hack reporter actually had a great line regarding inviting Rutgers:
That's like the senior class bully telling you that he'll be stealing your prom date but that, hey, you're welcome to ride in the limo! What could Rutgers possibly gain from accepting that offer?

Back to Alaska: If Saint James really wanted to help discover and provide additional exposure to underrated recruits, why hold camp in a dense state already known for producing FBS caliber talent? There are coaching staffs from all over the country already canvassing NJ. Couldn't Jimbo's "charity" be better utilized in more rural/isolated parts of the country? And when was the last time Michigan provided a scholarship to an underexposed player (only 1 or 2 D1 offers) anyway?

You don't honestly believe what you're selling, do you?
Your missing the point. "
What could Rutgers possibly gain from accepting that offer? " It's really not "what can Rutgers Gain" but what can they offer NJ kids. You and I obviously see the value of these camps in a much different way.
Again your missing the point. "And when was the last time Michigan provided a scholarship to an underexposed player (only 1 or 2 D1 offers) anyway?" It's not about Michigan. How many of the kids at either of these 2 camps will get offers from Michigan or OSU. 1 maybe 2 and they would have gotten them anyway. It's about helping smaller schools to see players in person and coach them a bit. Saving Money they don't have to spend on recruiting. Also players who do not have the money to travel to schools or send out recruiting tapes. This is the real value of these camps. The fact that it gives the Mich and OSU's of the world exposure all the better.
 
The reason Harhaugh disrespectfully setup camp miles from the campus of a division rival are 2 fold, first is to strengthen his NJ recruiting ties, especially PC with Singleton and Bolds on deck this year. Secondly he is trying to make a statement that Michigan owns NJ and can do as he pleases, an attitude that has begun to backfire.

It really takes a special kind of person to believe he is doing it for the sake of Monmouth University.
 
We will just have to agree to disagree.
If as you say these camps are only calculated recruiting stunts Why would Michigan invite both Maryland and Rutgers? Michigan was playing no games with the camp. Rutgers chose to decline the invitation and hold a camp on the same day.
As to cutting the BS. Alaska has put 0 players into FBS schools. virtually no kids to help. Michigan does recruit Hockey players in Alaska.

Michigan invited Rutgers because the PC principal required it to save face and look like he was putting NJ first. Harbaugh is also the commencement speaker at PC, which has generated a ton of negativity towards PC.

If you are from Northern New Jersey, you know the history of PC football and the animosity that has been stirred by them in recent years with transfers, etc. I would explain, but it would take too long. Instead I will sum up:

For years (as in forever), PC was an also-ran behind Don Bosco, Bergen Catholic and St. Joes when it came to football in Northern NJ. I believe they had one state title - in 1997 - when Partridge was on the team and the Campanile father was the coach who was subsequently fired - his son is a PC grad and coaches at Bergen. Paterson Catholic HS closed in 2010 and PC started attracting better players from outside the area that normally sent kids to their school. Then Peppers played 2 years at Don Bosco and transferred to PC under circumstances that raised eyebrows among the traditional football powers. PC won 2 state championships with Peppers and players started leaving schools from other parts of NJ to attend PC. This includes a lot of D1 caliber players who never went to PC before 2010 - they usually went to Don Bosco, BC or St. Joes, or stayed in their home town public high school. Now Partridge left for Michigan and the PC players (including some questionable transfers while Partridge was the coach) have followed him to Michigan.

To a lot of people, the whole relationship between PC and Michigan looks fishy. If Michigan was to hold their camp at another school, let's say Delbarton, it might have been annoying to Rutgers and pissed people off, but to nowhere near the level of holding it at PC.
 
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He is doing 27 camps this season. 1 in Australia. All of these include multiple coaches at various levels to get players exposure to college coaches and possible scholarships at all levels of college football. Not just Michigan. Of course Ash deciding to do a camp on the same day was done with fewer coaches instead attending the PC camp and of holding his camp on a different day allowing the kids access to 3 programs instead of 8.
Harbaugh invited Rutgers. Ash let his OSU Bias show and did nothing to help the kids of N.J.
Nice GIF though.

"did nothing to help the kids of NJ"?? SMH.
 
Your missing the point. "
What could Rutgers possibly gain from accepting that offer? " It's really not "what can Rutgers Gain" but what can they offer NJ kids. You and I obviously see the value of these camps in a much different way.
Again your missing the point. "And when was the last time Michigan provided a scholarship to an underexposed player (only 1 or 2 D1 offers) anyway?" It's not about Michigan. How many of the kids at either of these 2 camps will get offers from Michigan or OSU. 1 maybe 2 and they would have gotten them anyway. It's about helping smaller schools to see players in person and coach them a bit. Saving Money they don't have to spend on recruiting. Also players who do not have the money to travel to schools or send out recruiting tapes. This is the real value of these camps. The fact that it gives the Mich and OSU's of the world exposure all the better.
missing nothing.....
 
Your missing the point. "
What could Rutgers possibly gain from accepting that offer? " It's really not "what can Rutgers Gain" but what can they offer NJ kids. You and I obviously see the value of these camps in a much different way.
Again your missing the point. "And when was the last time Michigan provided a scholarship to an underexposed player (only 1 or 2 D1 offers) anyway?" It's not about Michigan. How many of the kids at either of these 2 camps will get offers from Michigan or OSU. 1 maybe 2 and they would have gotten them anyway. It's about helping smaller schools to see players in person and coach them a bit. Saving Money they don't have to spend on recruiting. Also players who do not have the money to travel to schools or send out recruiting tapes. This is the real value of these camps. The fact that it gives the Mich and OSU's of the world exposure all the better.

You are either a very clever troll or perhaps the stupidest person to ever visit our board. Harbaugh doing this for smaller schools and under recruited kids ? Bwah ha ha ha! Riiiiight....
 
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You can always tell things are moving in the right direction when opposing fans feel the need to come on our board to tell us just how irrelevant we are.

Only reason I'm here is because not a day goes by over the last year where a thread about Michigan, usually more than one isn't on your guys front page and they're always comical reads. No other team in the B1G is talking about Rutgers on their forum (outside of this story maybe).

Back to Alaska: If Saint James really wanted to help discover and provide additional exposure to underrated recruits, why hold camp in a dense state already known for producing FBS caliber talent? There are coaching staffs from all over the country already canvassing NJ. Couldn't Jimbo's "charity" be better utilized in more rural/isolated parts of the country?

You mean like his camps in Australia, Samoa, Hawaii, Connecticut and Kansas and to a lesser extent Tennessee, Missouri, Virginia and South Carolina? Not exactly college football recruiting hotbeds.
 
My attempted last post on the topic is, if the tables were turned you guys would be okay with it and LOVE it. If Ash had 30 camps spanning 14 states and 3 countries in a month you'd be all for it.

Just like Pedo State fans think Joe Pa is innocent. It's all relative. Deep down other programs are just mad that their coach doesn't go as hard and/or that their program doesn't have the resources to do such a thing. Jim Harbaugh is using the resources available to him and actually trying to make his salary seem nearly justifiable with how hard he's working to make Michigan one of the best teams in the country. Maybe if Rutgers didn't bleed money from football, Coach Ash could do half as much and you'd all love it and you know it.
 
My attempted last post on the topic is, if the tables were turned you guys would be okay with it and LOVE it. If Ash had 30 camps spanning 14 states and 3 countries in a month you'd be all for it.

Just like Pedo State fans think Joe Pa is innocent. It's all relative. Deep down other programs are just mad that their coach doesn't go as hard and/or that their program doesn't have the resources to do such a thing. Jim Harbaugh is using the resources available to him and actually trying to make his salary seem nearly justifiable with how hard he's working to make Michigan one of the best teams in the country. Maybe if Rutgers didn't bleed money from football, Coach Ash could do half as much and you'd all love it and you know it.

Couple of points. Take them as you will. As you may be able to tell from my handle, I have a link to both Rutgers and to Michigan.

1. Rutgers football is profitable and has been for many years.

2. I agree that all college football fans would want their coaching staff to be doing as many camps as possible. No one in their right mind could or would question Jim Harbaugh's work ethic. Think of the Harbaugh attacks as akin to the equally moronic posts I've read from 90%+ on Michigan boards over the last 3 years that Rutgers sucks at everything, and has always and will always suck at everything.

3. The camps should be taken in perspective -- they are for marketing and nothing more -- no college coach is (or should be expected to) actually affecting any important societal problem with said camps.

4. I don't think this is in any way similar to JoePa and Penn State. If you read this board for a day, you would see that there are nearly as many opinions on topics as there are board posters. For one thing, you may notice that no posts have been deleted from this thread.

5. I think the end result -- i.e., Michigan and Rutgers having separate camps -- actually worked out well for everyone, for various reasons. But anyone who actually expected Rutgers to attend a camp at PC and with Michigan as the headline attraction: (1) doesn't understand the local issues surrounding Partridge and PC; (2) doesn't understand the role the Michigan/Ohio State rivalry is playing; (3) doesn't understand the unprecedented positive publicity Rutgers has gotten from this; and/or (4) believes that satellite camps are more than they are.
 
There are ways to work hard, ways to succeed, ways to setup satellite camps without being a complete prick about it, and that is what Harbaugh is at the end of the day, a complete prick who was exposed for all NJ coaches, players and media to see this week. Your comparison to PSU is absolutely fitting, all criticism of Paterno are rooted in jealousy of PSU, absolutely nothing to do with the character of the man himself. Pure irony.
 
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Your comparison to PSU is absolutely fitting, all criticism of Paterno are rooted in jealousy of PSU, absolutely nothing to do with the character of the man himself. Pure irony.

You misinterpreted what I was saying. I was saying if Ash was doing what Harbaugh was doing you would love it because it's your team. Just like Pedo State loves Joe Pa despite being an obvious child rape enabling POS. At the end of the day Michigan fans love what harbs is doing, as would any fanbase if their coach worked as hard. Not to compare sattelite camps to child rape (because I imagine none of us would be so delusional to defend our respective coaches if the same thing happened at our schools), I was just using the example that it depends what side of the fence you're on in this particular completely legal camp scenario. If Ash had recruiting tactics deemed "immoral" or "slimy" by another state no one here would be like "yeah guys, I agree.. Ash should stop." as long is its legal and gets results. I don't know shit about NJ HS football so maybe you guys have a gripe, but like I said turn the tables and no one would care if it's your school. Other schools (like the SEC) I think it's fair to say they don't want Michigan running camps just because their coach won't/can't do half as many so they'd rather have Harbaugh do none at all.
 
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Wolv RU

1. Rutgers football is profitable and has been for many years.
You may want to research that statement a bit. Last year was first year Rutgers was profitable courtesy of $32 million from the B1G. League gave them 32 million and they were $8 mil in the black. They are the most highly subsidized football program in the country. With their share of B1G money the trend of black ink should continue until they start to upgrade facilities to compete with other B1G schools and keep quality coaches.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tball-fails-profit-test-as-students-pay-1-000

http://www.northjersey.com/news/education/rutgers-university-s-athletics-subsidy-grows-1.732427

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2016/01/29/Colleges/Rutgers.aspx
 
Harbaugh is giving the commencement speech at PC....for the children, of course. Not for anything else. And he hired PC hs coach...for the children. And he is holding a camp at PC for the children.

I haven't seen so much selfless altruism towards children from a college coach since that guy from Penn state.
 
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This was pretty interesting...

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Purdue was once 1-1 in the all-time series vs Michigan (UM leads 44-14)
Minnesota was once 2-0 in the all-time series vs Michigan (UM leads 74-25-3)

Cling to that while you can. Luckily we'll all be dead before that all-time record gets too embarrassing for you. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
Wolv RU

1. Rutgers football is profitable and has been for many years.
You may want to research that statement a bit. Last year was first year Rutgers was profitable courtesy of $32 million from the B1G. League gave them 32 million and they were $8 mil in the black. They are the most highly subsidized football program in the country. With their share of B1G money the trend of black ink should continue until they start to upgrade facilities to compete with other B1G schools and keep quality coaches.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tball-fails-profit-test-as-students-pay-1-000

http://www.northjersey.com/news/education/rutgers-university-s-athletics-subsidy-grows-1.732427

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2016/01/29/Colleges/Rutgers.aspx

First, the department subsidy is something different than whether a single sport is making money. Second, nj.com (the sole source of information in the sportsbusinessdaily.com link) has grossly oversimplified the issue in an effort to support their story. It does not specify how specific expenses (and particularly one-time expenses) are allocated, nor does it take into account the varying accounting practices between universities -- which have been explained more fully on this board in the past. Nor does it account for the past reinvestment of profits back into the same program with the goal of obtaining larger profits in the future.

But that said, even if you accept the statement you rely on as accurate, it is from 2014-2015, and it seems unlikely that the financial position changed materially in the 2015 football season.

Your original quote:

"Maybe if Rutgers didn't bleed money from football, Coach Ash could do half as much and you'd all love it and you know it"

is, at best, out of date and incomplete. While Rutgers doesn't have the money to lure away Nick Saban, and certainly must be smart with their funds and spend them where they will get the most value for dollars spent (and to the extent you imply that this is not on dozens of satellite camps, you are probably correct), there is no recent evidence that it won't spend to compete, which seems to be the point you were making.
 
Wolv RU

1. Rutgers football is profitable and has been for many years.
You may want to research that statement a bit. Last year was first year Rutgers was profitable courtesy of $32 million from the B1G. League gave them 32 million and they were $8 mil in the black. They are the most highly subsidized football program in the country. With their share of B1G money the trend of black ink should continue until they start to upgrade facilities to compete with other B1G schools and keep quality coaches.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tball-fails-profit-test-as-students-pay-1-000

http://www.northjersey.com/news/education/rutgers-university-s-athletics-subsidy-grows-1.732427

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2016/01/29/Colleges/Rutgers.aspx
You are so wrong on this. First off RU only received like 12 Mil from the B1G last year. Second RU football runs a profit, the other sports run the deficit. Also add in the accounting done with facilities makes the athletic department ledger look worse than it is. For instance they have the AD rent out the swimming facility owned by RU. The student fees give benefits back to students like free tickets to all sporting events, use of gyms and athletic facilities.
 
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thevictors97:
This is the northeast corridor: a densely populated megalopolis stretching from Boston to DC. Needless to say, shysters and con men abound.

Folks around these parts tend to evolve fairly sophisticated BS meters out of necessity.

You're either going to need to come up with better material or find yourself a different audience.

Trust me, I'm only telling you this for your benefit. I sincerely want to see your underrated, 2-star spin campaign succeed.
 
My attempted last post on the topic is, if the tables were turned you guys would be okay with it and LOVE it. If Ash had 30 camps spanning 14 states and 3 countries in a month you'd be all for it.

Just like Pedo State fans think Joe Pa is innocent. It's all relative. Deep down other programs are just mad that their coach doesn't go as hard and/or that their program doesn't have the resources to do such a thing. Jim Harbaugh is using the resources available to him and actually trying to make his salary seem nearly justifiable with how hard he's working to make Michigan one of the best teams in the country. Maybe if Rutgers didn't bleed money from football, Coach Ash could do half as much and you'd all love it and you know it.
Don't come here preaching to us when you don't know the facts.:chairshot:

Might be time to ban a few of the UM fans.
 
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You are so wrong on this. First off RU only received like 12 Mil from the B1G last year. Second RU football runs a profit, the other sports run the deficit. Also add in the accounting done with facilities makes the athletic department ledger look worse than it is. For instance they have the AD rent out the swimming facility owned by RU. The student fees give benefits back to students like free tickets to all sporting events, use of gyms and athletic facilities.


I apologize you are correct on the B1G pay out. Rutgers is on a 6 year integration as is Maryland for a full Pay out. 2020-2021. Should be $45 to $50 Mil by then.
I became aware of the Rutgers football perceived financial position from a report on the cost of CFB about a month ago by Bryant Gumble. It featured Rutgers and a couple of your professors as an example.
BTN and other TV money sure makes life easier.
 
I apologize you are correct on the B1G pay out. Rutgers is on a 6 year integration as is Maryland for a full Pay out. 2020-2021. Should be $45 to $50 Mil by then.
I became aware of the Rutgers football perceived financial position from a report on the cost of CFB about a month ago by Bryant Gumble. It featured Rutgers and a couple of your professors as an example.
BTN and other TV money sure makes life easier.
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First, the department subsidy is something different than whether a single sport is making money. Second, nj.com (the sole source of information in the sportsbusinessdaily.com link) has grossly oversimplified the issue in an effort to support their story. It does not specify how specific expenses (and particularly one-time expenses) are allocated, nor does it take into account the varying accounting practices between universities -- which have been explained more fully on this board in the past. Nor does it account for the past reinvestment of profits back into the same program with the goal of obtaining larger profits in the future.

But that said, even if you accept the statement you rely on as accurate, it is from 2014-2015, and it seems unlikely that the financial position changed materially in the 2015 football season.

Your original quote:

"Maybe if Rutgers didn't bleed money from football, Coach Ash could do half as much and you'd all love it and you know it"

is, at best, out of date and incomplete. While Rutgers doesn't have the money to lure away Nick Saban, and certainly must be smart with their funds and spend them where they will get the most value for dollars spent (and to the extent you imply that this is not on dozens of satellite camps, you are probably correct), there is no recent evidence that it won't spend to compete, which seems to be the point you were making.

Wolv
"Maybe if Rutgers didn't bleed money from football, Coach Ash could do half as much and you'd all love it and you know it"
Not my quote.
As to larger profits are concerned. They are a guarantee. As I was advised Rutgers only received $12Mil from the B1G last year. Goes up every year for 6 years until full Pay out. Should be about $45Mil.

I wasn't suggesting Rutgers would not spend to compete. Historically they have. I am suggesting it will take some time and big money to bring facilities to a competitive level with many in the B1G. Step 1 was bringing in Ash. Comes off the Meyer coaching tree and knows what it takes to succeed at the highest level. I'm sure he has submitted his wish list to the AD. Now question is how fast can it get done.
 
Wolv
"Maybe if Rutgers didn't bleed money from football, Coach Ash could do half as much and you'd all love it and you know it"
Not my quote.
As to larger profits are concerned. They are a guarantee. As I was advised Rutgers only received $12Mil from the B1G last year. Goes up every year for 6 years until full Pay out. Should be about $45Mil.

I wasn't suggesting Rutgers would not spend to compete. Historically they have. I am suggesting it will take some time and big money to bring facilities to a competitive level with many in the B1G. Step 1 was bringing in Ash. Comes off the Meyer coaching tree and knows what it takes to succeed at the highest level. I'm sure he has submitted his wish list to the AD. Now question is how fast can it get done.

These posts are reasonable and worthy of discussion. I, for one, can appreciate that you can see that RU has potential. And, you'll find MOST on this board know flat out we have a way to go.

It won't happen overnight, but there is potential. You have some fellow posters who seem most interested in running RU down. (With Michigan's history, I'm not even sure why they would need to do that.)

I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate honest discussion/debate even if I disagree, as long as its civil; we're good.
 
Like our Penn State friends these guys insist we don't register on their radars then spend a bunch of effort explaining why that is so. Again like the Nits they can't understand why everyone does not assume they are in it for selfless reasons.
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WAR ON RUTGERS
They definitely did not realize what we could have told 'em. Mr. Partridge brings somebaggage. They are about to get mired in the swamps of Jersey (prep football).
 
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Harbaugh invited Rutgers. Ash let his OSU Bias show and did nothing to help the kids of N.J.
Nice GIF though.
This is just BS and you know it. It wasn't about sticking it to Harbough and PC. No doubt that is a part of it, but thebigger reason to have a seperate camp was about not pissing off the other Catholics by allowing an event to showcase one of their biggest competitors over them. They were not going to be sending their kids to PC even if RU coaches went their. Nunzio confirmed that. This is a smart move. Harbough does not seem to care if he pisses off the other power Catholic programs. It probably does not effect who he is recruiting anyway, but it will effect the other schools that attend PC.
 
Wolv
"Maybe if Rutgers didn't bleed money from football, Coach Ash could do half as much and you'd all love it and you know it"
Not my quote.
As to larger profits are concerned. They are a guarantee. As I was advised Rutgers only received $12Mil from the B1G last year. Goes up every year for 6 years until full Pay out. Should be about $45Mil.

I wasn't suggesting Rutgers would not spend to compete. Historically they have. I am suggesting it will take some time and big money to bring facilities to a competitive level with many in the B1G. Step 1 was bringing in Ash. Comes off the Meyer coaching tree and knows what it takes to succeed at the highest level. I'm sure he has submitted his wish list to the AD. Now question is how fast can it get done.
Wrong again! RU football is very profitable. I would call $8 million in 2014 and more the last 2 years very profitable. The actual figures are not a secret. As bad as Basketball has been it's still profitable. It's the other sports that hemorage money that we would probably have to cut if there was no subsidy to supplement the profits that come from the revenue sports. Try to do a little research before you quiot talking points from some idiot that intentionally misrepresents the facts to drive an agenda.
 
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