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Basketball Rutgers Basketball suffers 81-74 loss to No. 8 Michigan State at MSG

And every one a clean look at an important juncture. If he makes two of those, it’s a very different game down the stretch. He was recruited to make those shots, and he has done so in the past, but some are still blaming Pike.
Martini has lost all confidence

It's crazy neither he nor Hayes has been able to be an impact 3 point shooter for this team

If Hayes gets 5 open looks from 3...
 
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Pike did some coaching at the end.
The current iteration of the program is a fail.
Rutgers is cursed, we have one of the best players in college bball for 1 year and we get and injury/flu plagued version.
Playing in the garden brought us nothing,
Does Martini make those shots at the Rac, the guy who started the bench Jordan D. Thread looks a little foolish now.
Don’t think there has ever been in Rutgers history a call for a benching followed by a player scoring 27 points on the 18th ranked team in the country
 
100% agree – – they could easily be 6–3 instead of 3–6 in the conference right now.
Stop, this team does not execute winning basketball. They could easily have beaten Kennesaw, easily beaten Bama, easily beaten Princeton, easily beaten A&M, easily beaten PSU on the road…..but they didn’t……good teams win, bad teams find ways to lose. These guys find ways to lose, they are 6-10 in their last 16 games. They are not a good team.
 
Sit Dylan till he’s 110 percent
I know it's the Garden and you want him to get some burn in front of every NBA scout in the world...but his 7 or 8 minutes just set him back a week. That was a bad sprain zero business on court.
 
Fair but when Dylan puts up 20 Derkack doesn’t put up all the points he does. And while it does create more room only maybe Ace capitalizes. Maybe not as MSU has done a good job on him. And the others you speak of. Doubt they could execute.
LOL sure maybe Derkack's breakout game goes for 20 in that hypothetical. Does a healthy Harper still not get 18, 19 and open up Ace for a few more baskets? Harper is also better on D than any of R guards.
 
This was a pathetic showing. We have a legit shot to finish in the bottom three and miss the conference tourney, especially with the lack of size and how this team has issues with playing hard for all 40 minutes of a game.
Somerville certainly doesn't play up to his size. Can't overpower even smaller players, doesn't have a good dunking ability and shoots poorly from outside.
 
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Pike needs to go drastic play full court D whole game. Problem is these guys commit alot of dumb fouls and cant do so
 
Martini has lost all confidence

It's crazy neither he nor Hayes has been able to be an impact 3 point shooter for this team

If Hayes gets 5 open looks from 3...
They have both been horrendous in virtually every game this season. At some point, maybe we just need to acknowledge they aren't B1G caliber players and this is the best they can do.
 
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LOL sure maybe Derkack's breakout game goes for 20 in that hypothetical. Does a healthy Harper still not get 18, 19 and open up Ace for a few more baskets? Harper is also much better on D than any of R guards.
In no way does Derkack go for 20 if Harper is 100%. Just my opinion. You’re entitled to yours. Of course I’d rather have Dylan at 100%, but when we did we still lost close to good teams. And he wasn’t even just good he was out of his mind good. My point is the rest of the roster isn’t good enough to win big boy games. It’s a team sport and we have to stop making excuses. It’s a poor roster overall.
 
Stop, this team does not execute winning basketball. They could easily have beaten Kennesaw, easily beaten Bama, easily beaten Princeton, easily beaten A&M, easily beaten PSU on the road…..but they didn’t……good teams win, bad teams find ways to lose. These guys find ways to lose, they are 6-10 in their last 16 games. They are not a good team.
They just don’t make plays, top to bottom both sides of the ball
 
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Simply horrendous halfcourt offense. The 3 point shooting was horrendous .Bailey had a poor shooting effort and Harper spent most of the game on the bench with the inured ankle.Kudos to Durkack for a outstanding game scoring 26 points.Michigan State did their thing with the curl offense creating and making close range shots to the basket or getting fouled.This was a winnable game if Rutgers had a healthy Harper ,Martini made some 3 pointers and Bailey made some second half baskets.Bottom line the team has very little chance of winning without 40 points from Bailey and Harper.Bailey is really being challenged with double teams with Harper not playing.Great crowd at MSG but just another loss away from the RAC.
 
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In no way does Derkack go for 20 if Harper is 100%. Just my opinion. You’re entitled to yours. Of course I’d rather have Dylan at 100%, but when we did we still lost close to good teams. And he wasn’t even just good he was out of his mind good. My point is the rest of the roster isn’t good enough to win big boy games. It’s a team sport and we have to stop making excuses. It’s a poor roster overall.
No argument about the roster--I've been barking about that since early December.
 
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Stop, this team does not execute winning basketball. They could easily have beaten Kennesaw, easily beaten Bama, easily beaten Princeton, easily beaten A&M, easily beaten PSU on the road…..but they didn’t……good teams win, bad teams find ways to lose. These guys find ways to lose, they are 6-10 in their last 16 games. They are not a good team.
All this ^^^^
 
LOL sure maybe Derkack's breakout game goes for 20 in that hypothetical. Does a healthy Harper still not get 18, 19 and open up Ace for a few more baskets? Harper is also better on D than any of R guards.
Here in is the problem with people on this site....you are NOT winning with 2 players. There are more than 2 players on this team we just choose to dictate that only 2 players should be taking 80% of shots while everyone else just plays defense and stands there and spectates on offense.. Team 1st Stats 2nd cant play with that mindset LOSS
 
They have both been horrendous in virtually every game this season. At some point, maybe we just need to acknowledge they aren't B1G caliber players and this is the best they can do.
I mean i didn't want either in the first place bc i didn't think they were athletic enough to play in the B1G and Martini was too undersized

That doesn't mean they should forget how to shoot a wide open 3
 
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Did you not watch game Kerkack 26. AB did nothing but take bad shots
How many times did you see a Derkack shot and say “no no no no YES!”

I don’t care how many points the kid had, it’s not like he was throwing up a ton of quality looks either, he was just hot.

This isn’t even about JD’s performance though.

You have a top 5 future NBA superstar on your roster. He’s LOADED with talent, and presents a matchup issue for a lot of teams.

Today? Carr was a matchup issue for Ace. Very long, athletic, big. Not many teams have a guy like that.

But guess what, MSU has him, and our staff did nothing to change that matchup in our favor. That’s a problem. It was clear as day. Our staff was content with MSU having that matchup, even though it was clearly bothering your win condition. Inexcusable.
 
Here in is the problem with people on this site....you are NOT winning with 2 players. There are more than 2 players on this team we just choose to dictate that only 2 players should be taking 80% of shots while everyone else just plays defense and stands there and spectates on offense.. Team 1st Stats 2nd cant play with that mindset LOSS
I've stated Harper + Bailey + good (not needing great) games from the rest is R winning formula. What's the problem?
 
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Here in is the problem with people on this site....you are NOT winning with 2 players. There are more than 2 players on this team we just choose to dictate that only 2 players should be taking 80% of shots while everyone else just plays defense and stands there and spectates on offense.. Team 1st Stats 2nd cant play with that mindset LOSS
With the evolution of Ace, not a great game today but a huge improvement since Vegas.
A healthy 100 percent and motivated dominant Dylan would have resulted in MANY wins.
Our current bench with the added minutes of Grant would have made us dangerous with a non sick and injured Dylan
 
How many times did you see a Derkack shot and say “no no no no YES!”

I don’t care how many points the kid had, it’s not like he was throwing up a ton of quality looks either, he was just hot.

This isn’t even about JD’s performance though.

You have a top 5 future NBA superstar on your roster. He’s LOADED with talent, and presents a matchup issue for a lot of teams.

Today? Carr was a matchup issue for Ace. Very long, athletic, big. Not many teams have a guy like that.

But guess what, MSU has him, and our staff did nothing to change that matchup in our favor. That’s a problem. It was clear as day. Our staff was content with MSU having that matchup, even though it was clearly bothering your win condition. Inexcusable.
It was pretty crazy how little they did to get Ace a better matchup or get him going especially after halftime

They had to know Dylan didn't have it and Ace would need a big 2nd half to pull off a win and didn’t seem to even try to make an adjustment
 
I know it's the Garden and you want him to get some burn in front of every NBA scout in the world...but his 7 or 8 minutes just set him back a week. That was a bad sprain zero business on court.
I’m sure the trainers/had some say in that.
 
It was pretty crazy how little they did to get Ace a better matchup or get him going especially after halftime

They had to know Dylan didn't have it and Ace would need a big 2nd half to pull off a win and didn’t seem to even try to make an adjustment
Honestly man, I’m just not sure they see the game this way at all.

Almost like they’re content saying “okay Ace it’s not your day, we need you doing the little things”

Instead of “okay we need to get Ace going, here’s how we’re going to free him up”

And Grant getting buried on the bench. I just don’t understand what they’re thinking.
 
With the evolution of Ace, not a great game today but a huge improvement since Vegas.
A healthy 100 percent and motivated dominant Dylan would have resulted in MANY wins.
Our current bench with the added minutes of Grant would have made us dangerous with a non sick and injured Dylan
I wouldn’t say many, this team always has an issue whether it’s not enough rebounding, bad defense, bad offense, free throws, bad 3 point shooting, turnovers, etc.. It’s always something with this group that will be the new issue that causes the loss for that given game. Maybe a few more wins but they just are not good enough, they are 6-10 in their last 16 games. Maybe they would be 8-8 with more Dylan, couple more wins maybe. They don’t make enough winning plays.
 
The team decided to play D too late into the season. Then Harper was out and now EO too. We just will be lucky to make the B1G tournament.
 
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