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Season Prediction Thread

I have never been able to bring myself to making a.preseason prediction because I have no idea how the new players will play or how much the returning players improved.

But, I always enjoy reading the predictions and there are some interesting comments here.

There are so many unknowns but we'll get some hints on Friday on how the season may go.
 
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I have never been able to bring myself to making a.preseason prediction because I have no idea how the new players will play or how much the returning players improved.

But, I always enjoy reading the predictions and there are some interesting comments here.

There are so many unknowns but we'll get some hints on Friday on how the season may go.

This is so true
 
I believe the turning point is 45 to 50 games together, when you have this many new faces. A lot of unknowns that appear to be in a positive direction.

It is mid January 2020 when this roster (minus Shaq Doorson) essentially figures out what strengths and weaknesses are there.....and what weaknesses get solved by being exposed during the B1G schedule this year.

The entire key IMO lies with how much rope does the staff play with this season to extend it's bench and play through mistakes. If we extend minutes in games 1 through 8 to Caleb McConnell, Montez Mathis and Ron Harper, that tells me we want depth created for the B1G season and we are thinking long term.

We only have the confidence in Geo Baker now, because he was force fed minutes very early last year...but he hit a wall of teams adjusting and the flu took his legs away.....but finished up with a flurry at MSG that built confidence in the player.

Eliminating lost minutes later and making them quality minutes only happens if Mathis, McConnell and Harper play a LOT more minutes in the 1st 10 games...that may mean some closer games than expected and tough learning curves vs MAC contender Eastern Michigan and BE foes SJU and SHU.

If the youth plays well early in spots (like Baker did last year) and we can get Kiss and Eugene to be consistent grinders vs asking them to be scorers, then the upside goes way up. My ideal scenario isn't asking Eugene to give us 8 PPG and 7RPG in 26 minutes....its 6PPG and 6RPG, while McConnell Harper and Mathis learn on the job.

If Pike decides that shaving his rotation down to 9 players by mid January is preferred, that means some development may have to wait for players 10 and 11 and some other players have exceeded expectations to form a true rotation.

If we are consistently playing all 11 players most nights (dependent on matchups), then we may still be progressing but still not sure where players stand in February. That could be considered good news or could be not so good news.

I like the roster a lot and have confidence in how the staff will bring these players along. I'm truly not worried about the win loss record since 2019 recruiting is practically done and we've moved on to working on 2020....so a 12-18 season isn't going to derail anything other than a few fans.

The best case scenario is we get production and roles established very early and we get to see the team improve as the schedule gets tougher....a Baker path of development for Mathis, McConnell and Harper is more important to me for this year vs won-loss record.
 
F Dickinson - L 70-72 - [0-1]
Drexel - W 69-60 - [1-1]
St John's - W 69-53 - [2-1]
E Michigan - W 53-48 - [3-1]
Boston Univ - W 75-68 - [4-1]
at Miami FL - L 61-74 - [4-2]
Michigan St - W 76-71 - [5-2 (1-0)]
at Wisconsin - W 81-75 - [6-2 (2-0)]
at Fordham - W 53-35 - [7-2 (2-0)]
at Seton Hall - L 62-80 - [7-3 (2-0)]
Columbia - W 74-62 - [8-3 (2-0)]
Maine - W 84-63 - [9-3 (2-0)]
Maryland - W 66-65 - [10-3 (3-0)]
Ohio St - W 62-52 - [11-3 (4-0)]
at Minnesota - L 62-83 - [11-4 (4-1)]
at Purdue - L 69-81 - [11-5 (4-2)]
Northwestern - W 50-47 - [12-5 (5-2)]
Nebraska - W 76-73 - [13-5 (6-2)]
at Penn St - L 57-88 - [13-6 (6-3)]
Indiana - W 69-63 - [14-6 (7-3)]
at Ohio St - L 48-54 - [14-7 (7-4)]
Michigan - L 33-52 - [14-8 (7-5)]
at Illinois - W 66-61 - [15-8 (8-5)]
at Northwestern - W 73-70 - [16-8 (9-5)]
Iowa - L 81-95 - [16-9 (9-6)]
at Michigan St - W 76-68 - [17-9 (10-6)]
Minnesota - W 84-65 - [18-9 (11-6)]
at Iowa - W 88-73 - [19-9 (12-6)]
Penn St - L 56-62 - [19-10 (12-7)]
at Indiana - W 75-71 - [20-10 (13-7)]
 
F Dickinson - L 70-72 - [0-1]
Drexel - W 69-60 - [1-1]
St John's - W 69-53 - [2-1]
E Michigan - W 53-48 - [3-1]
Boston Univ - W 75-68 - [4-1]
at Miami FL - L 61-74 - [4-2]
Michigan St - W 76-71 - [5-2 (1-0)]
at Wisconsin - W 81-75 - [6-2 (2-0)]
at Fordham - W 53-35 - [7-2 (2-0)]
at Seton Hall - L 62-80 - [7-3 (2-0)]
Columbia - W 74-62 - [8-3 (2-0)]
Maine - W 84-63 - [9-3 (2-0)]
Maryland - W 66-65 - [10-3 (3-0)]
Ohio St - W 62-52 - [11-3 (4-0)]
at Minnesota - L 62-83 - [11-4 (4-1)]
at Purdue - L 69-81 - [11-5 (4-2)]
Northwestern - W 50-47 - [12-5 (5-2)]
Nebraska - W 76-73 - [13-5 (6-2)]
at Penn St - L 57-88 - [13-6 (6-3)]
Indiana - W 69-63 - [14-6 (7-3)]
at Ohio St - L 48-54 - [14-7 (7-4)]
Michigan - L 33-52 - [14-8 (7-5)]
at Illinois - W 66-61 - [15-8 (8-5)]
at Northwestern - W 73-70 - [16-8 (9-5)]
Iowa - L 81-95 - [16-9 (9-6)]
at Michigan St - W 76-68 - [17-9 (10-6)]
Minnesota - W 84-65 - [18-9 (11-6)]
at Iowa - W 88-73 - [19-9 (12-6)]
Penn St - L 56-62 - [19-10 (12-7)]
at Indiana - W 75-71 - [20-10 (13-7)]
This would be absolutely insane... losing to FDU and then winning 20 games... lol
 
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This would be absolutely insane... losing to FDU and then winning 20 games... lol
Hahaha I was about to post the same exact thing. Not that winning 20 games isn't already extremely unlikely but if we somehow did by some miracle there is 0 chance we lose to FD. That has to be one of the twenty.

Lose to FD but beat Michigan St... twice!
 
F Dickinson - L 70-72 - [0-1]
Drexel - W 69-60 - [1-1]
St John's - W 69-53 - [2-1]
E Michigan - W 53-48 - [3-1]
Boston Univ - W 75-68 - [4-1]
at Miami FL - L 61-74 - [4-2]
Michigan St - W 76-71 - [5-2 (1-0)]
at Wisconsin - W 81-75 - [6-2 (2-0)]
at Fordham - W 53-35 - [7-2 (2-0)]
at Seton Hall - L 62-80 - [7-3 (2-0)]
Columbia - W 74-62 - [8-3 (2-0)]
Maine - W 84-63 - [9-3 (2-0)]
Maryland - W 66-65 - [10-3 (3-0)]
Ohio St - W 62-52 - [11-3 (4-0)]
at Minnesota - L 62-83 - [11-4 (4-1)]
at Purdue - L 69-81 - [11-5 (4-2)]
Northwestern - W 50-47 - [12-5 (5-2)]
Nebraska - W 76-73 - [13-5 (6-2)]
at Penn St - L 57-88 - [13-6 (6-3)]
Indiana - W 69-63 - [14-6 (7-3)]
at Ohio St - L 48-54 - [14-7 (7-4)]
Michigan - L 33-52 - [14-8 (7-5)]
at Illinois - W 66-61 - [15-8 (8-5)]
at Northwestern - W 73-70 - [16-8 (9-5)]
Iowa - L 81-95 - [16-9 (9-6)]
at Michigan St - W 76-68 - [17-9 (10-6)]
Minnesota - W 84-65 - [18-9 (11-6)]
at Iowa - W 88-73 - [19-9 (12-6)]
Penn St - L 56-62 - [19-10 (12-7)]
at Indiana - W 75-71 - [20-10 (13-7)]
Sooo here you predict we lose to FD 72-70 but in the official FD prediction thread we win in a blow out 76-61. Come on man!
 
Just for the record, five conference wins would have out us in 11th place last year.
 
Just for the record, five conference wins would have out us in 11th place last year.

True but there are 2 extra games this season. The basement will be probably be 4 games this year.
 
I would like to see 5-6 wins in conference-----1 or 2 on the road.

7-3 OOC or perhaps 8-2

Just don't want to see RU finish last in conference. In Year 3 you don't want that happening.
 
My ideal scenario isn't asking Eugene to give us 8 PPG and 7RPG in 26 minutes....its 6PPG and 6RPG, while McConnell Harper and Mathis learn on the job.

Hawk, you do know that Eugene average 8 and 5 last year in 21 mpg, right? So why in the world would the team be okay with his production going DOWN, despite playing more minutes? I don't follow the logic here.

If anything, with Eugene being the unequivocal leader of this team, and being one of the best returning players, don't we have to rely on him to be the first or second leading scorer on the team? Most good teams have a 1-2 punch (if not 3 and 4, LOL), and I'm expecting Eugene and Baker to form our 1-2 punch, with Eugene getting at least 11-12 points and 7 rebounds per game, while averaging 28 mpg.
 
Hawk, you do know that Eugene average 8 and 5 last year in 21 mpg, right? So why in the world would the team be okay with his production going DOWN, despite playing more minutes? I don't follow the logic here.

If anything, with Eugene being the unequivocal leader of this team, and being one of the best returning players, don't we have to rely on him to be the first or second leading scorer on the team? Most good teams have a 1-2 punch (if not 3 and 4, LOL), and I'm expecting Eugene and Baker to form our 1-2 punch, with Eugene getting at least 11-12 points and 7 rebounds per game, while averaging 28 mpg.
Yeah he's wayyy off here. 6 and 6 from EO this year would be a MASSIVE disappointment. He will play more minutes and is again the most improved player according to Pike. A regression is unlikely. A step up is expected
 
Yeah he's wayyy off here. 6 and 6 from EO this year would be a MASSIVE disappointment. He will play more minutes and is again the most improved player according to Pike. A regression is unlikely. A step up is expected

We make the same mistakes of assuming a team looks the same every year....Eugene will not play the same role that he filled in his 1st 2 seasons.

He will have a lot fewer chances offensively on the glass because i think we will shoot better. And i don't measure impact on PPG.

Eugene has evolved his game to a point where teams sagged off him....so he's worked on his perimeter game....if that part of his game is somewhat reliable...(25 3 pointers would be a goal), then he goes from 7 to 10 or 11 PPG.

I don't see the offense running plays for Eugene....this is a guard oriented team. If Eugene is the 2nd leading scorer and he's not knocking down shots, that means we are missing FTs, missing shots in the paint and Eugene is cleaning up those misses.

I also factor in Shaq Carter, Shaq Doorson and others being more capable of scoring inside without offensive rebounds....OR all 3 of these players should be able to have an impact.

I have Eugene (unless jumpers or perimeter game is there) as the 5th leading scorer. That's my best case scenario for others like Harper, Thiam, Mathis and Kiss all joining Baker as perimeter oriented.

I will need to see whether there's a situation where the staff draws up a play designed to get Eugene the ball. I see ball movement and shot distribution being much better and the roster evolving.

For RU to grow as a program, we have to look past what's being said and focus on what makes sense. Eugene is a captain, takes charges, rebounds, defends the teams bigs, wings and guards....he's an critical piece to the toughness on the roster.

But that doesn't mean his value only happens by scoring. And i am very interested in seeing how far along he is offensively and can he play outstanding defense and be a 28 to 30% shooter from 10 to 19 feet....
 
We make the same mistakes of assuming a team looks the same every year....Eugene will not play the same role that he filled in his 1st 2 seasons.

He will have a lot fewer chances offensively on the glass because i think we will shoot better. And i don't measure impact on PPG.

Eugene has evolved his game to a point where teams sagged off him....so he's worked on his perimeter game....if that part of his game is somewhat reliable...(25 3 pointers would be a goal), then he goes from 7 to 10 or 11 PPG.

I don't see the offense running plays for Eugene....this is a guard oriented team. If Eugene is the 2nd leading scorer and he's not knocking down shots, that means we are missing FTs, missing shots in the paint and Eugene is cleaning up those misses.

I also factor in Shaq Carter, Shaq Doorson and others being more capable of scoring inside without offensive rebounds....OR all 3 of these players should be able to have an impact.

I have Eugene (unless jumpers or perimeter game is there) as the 5th leading scorer. That's my best case scenario for others like Harper, Thiam, Mathis and Kiss all joining Baker as perimeter oriented.

I will need to see whether there's a situation where the staff draws up a play designed to get Eugene the ball. I see ball movement and shot distribution being much better and the roster evolving.

For RU to grow as a program, we have to look past what's being said and focus on what makes sense. Eugene is a captain, takes charges, rebounds, defends the teams bigs, wings and guards....he's an critical piece to the toughness on the roster.

But that doesn't mean his value only happens by scoring. And i am very interested in seeing how far along he is offensively and can he play outstanding defense and be a 28 to 30% shooter from 10 to 19 feet....
Better ball movement will lead to more scoring chances for EO not less. He is also the type that doesn't need plays run for him to score. He will be a much better perimeter shooter and FT shooter so his efficiency should be up. He will be playing more minutes and is more experienced. His body has further improved. 6 and 6 would be disappointing no matter how you want to spin it, but luckily there is almost no chance he doesn't do better in both categories
 
RU needs 72 PPG to eventually be a winning program....in a lot of games it was in the low 60s...there's an additional 10-12PPG that has to be found and it only is found by shooting the ball from the perimeter.... A best case scenario is a balanced scoring attack below that can spread the floor......and i am not anticipating a situation where we intentionally feed the post player and ask that player to score or make a play/pass out of the post.

This sceanrio is this year or 2019-2020.

Baker 14 PPG
Kiss 12 PPG
Mathis 11 PPG
Thiam 10 PPG
Eugene 7 PPG
Harper 5 PPG
McConnell 4 PPG

That leaves Doucoure, Shaq Carter, Shaq Doorson and Myles Johnson. Whomever plays the 5 or plays the 4 when Eugene isn't in, should find points and putbacks.

If we can get 25 PPG out of Eugene, Doucoure, Carter etc, then you're talking an NCAA caliber team. I don't see the front court making that big of a leap...if they do, then things change drastically for the better.
 
Better ball movement will lead to more scoring chances for EO not less. He is also the type that doesn't need plays run for him to score. He will be a much better perimeter shooter and FT shooter so his efficiency should be up. He will be playing more minutes and is more experienced. His body has further improved. 6 and 6 would be disappointing no matter how you want to spin it, but luckily there is almost no chance he doesn't do better in both categories

For the program to evolve, it can't be because Eugene suddenly turns into a scorer...it evolves because the shooting improves and that means shot distribution is spread out. If Eugene is at 10PPG and he's the 5th player averaging double figures, great.....that means RU has a lot of development happening all at once........but i don't see a situation where Eugene is the 2nd option on offense behind Baker. The other players (Kiss, Thiam, Mathis, Harper) have to play minutes and shoot, drive and generate offense.

I can see that taking place in 2019-2020...5 players in double figures most nights....
 
I can't disagree more, Hawk. I think you are WAY underestimating Omoruyi in this thread. He (and Baker) will be our absolute, go-to scorers this year. Every team needs go-to guys, and, in our front court, he's the guy. No way Eugene averages 6-7 ppg.

You really think he's "the most improved player" on the team TWO YEARS RUNNING -- not coach speak -- and his production DROPS?!!? No way, no how. On the contrary, this year he becomes a STAR.

I respect your opinions, but in this case, I think you're dead wrong.
 
I can't disagree more, Hawk. I think you are WAY underestimating Omoruyi in this thread. He (and Baker) will be our absolute, go-to scorers this year. Every team needs go-to guys, and, in our front court, he's the guy. No way Eugene averages 6-7 ppg.

You really think he's "the most improved player" on the team TWO YEARS RUNNING -- not coach speak -- and his production DROPS?!!? No way, no how. On the contrary, this year he becomes a STAR.

I respect your opinions, but in this case, I think you're dead wrong.

Especially when his minutes are going jump significantly and we lose 3 of the top 4 scorers from last year.
 
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What were Eugene's numbers when he came back from injury and then replaced Deshawn in the starting lineup? That's probably a floor for this year...
 
Hawk, quit while you're behind on this one. EO has a better chance of averaging 12 than 6. I really can't see any scenario he only gets 6. Revisit this thread after the year
 
St Johns seems to have a good five players, but then there's a drop off. NJ Earlington likely won't see a ton of time. They have one player who fouled 5 times in ten minutes.

RU will have a chance to beat them. I think they should pick up the pace on them, and try to get their starting five to have to sub.
 
We have been in last place the past 2 years and have been absolutely dreadful offensively. I think for us to move the needle we need to play our most skilled players. It isnt inconceivable Eugene plays the same amount of minutes as he did last year. Remember we had ZERO depth in the back court.

If I were to guess NJH has it right. There is 1 basketball if we can put 5 guys on the court that can put the ball in the basket Eugene doesnt score double digits..........unless he makes another quantum leap in the offseason.
 
If anyone was to get less minutes, it would be Thiam. I am not sure why you guys are saying it's Omoyuri. Who would take his minutes at the beginning of the season?

The team needs rebounders and you guys are saying Omoyuri's minutes will be decreased?

Coming into this year Omoyuri is the best rebounder on the team.

I do not look at Harper Jr and think that his defense or rebounding is better than Omoyuri. I know in HS he hit the boards, but Pikiell is talking about the newcomers having to adjust to the defense. No way Harper starts to take the bulk of Omoyuris minutes.
 
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Thiam, Omoruyi and Baker have logged more minutes than anyone else on this team. Pikiell is going to lean on them and if the ball movement is as improved as he's indicated, and if Thiam and Eugene are as improved as he's indicated, they are going to have great years.
 
We have been in last place the past 2 years and have been absolutely dreadful offensively. I think for us to move the needle we need to play our most skilled players. It isnt inconceivable Eugene plays the same amount of minutes as he did last year. Remember we had ZERO depth in the back court.

If I were to guess NJH has it right. There is 1 basketball if we can put 5 guys on the court that can put the ball in the basket Eugene doesnt score double digits..........unless he makes another quantum leap in the offseason.

What exactly makes a big man skilled in your eyes? Because to me he's one of the best offensively on this team. He can create his own shot at a high rate and pass down low. He has added a bit of an outside shot. In the last 8 games of the season he averaged about 9 pts a game at .500%. He was the scoring option after Sanders, Geo and Freeman on most of those nights. With Sanders and Freeman gone, he's now gonna have more put on him. Geo will be #1. Who's gonna be 2,3,4? Besides Kiss, I don't see anyone surpassing him right now.

What more do you want from him?
 
Thiam, Omoruyi and Baker have logged more minutes than anyone else on this team. Pikiell is going to lean on them and if the ball movement is as improved as he's indicated, and if Thiam and Eugene are as improved as he's indicated, they are going to have great years.
Chamoruyi!
 
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Base Case Season
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F Dickinson - W - [1-0]
Drexel - W - [2-0]
St John's - L - [2-1]
E Michigan - W - [3-1]
Boston Univ - W - [4-1]
at Miami FL - L - [4-2]
Michigan St - L - [4-3 (0-1)]
at Wisconsin - L - [4-4 (0-2)]
at Fordham - W - [5-4 (0-2)]
at Seton Hall - L - [5-5 (0-2)]
Columbia - W - [6-5 (0-2)]
Maine - W - [7-5 (0-2)]
Maryland - W - [8-5 (1-2)]
Ohio St - L - [8-6 (1-3)]
at Minnesota - L - [8-7 (1-4)]
at Purdue - L - [8-8 (1-5)]
Northwestern - W - [9-8 (2-5)]
Nebraska - W - [10-8 (3-5)]
at Penn St - L - [10-9 (3-6)]
Indiana - W - [11-9 (4-6)]
at Ohio St - L - [11-10 (4-7)]
Michigan - L - [11-11 (4-8)]
at Illinois - L - [11-12 (4-9)]
at Northwestern - L - [11-13 (4-10)]
Iowa - W - [12-13 (5-10)]
at Michigan St - L - [12-14 (5-11)]
Minnesota - W - [13-14 (6-11)]
at Iowa - L - [13-15 (6-12)]
Penn St - L - [13-16 (6-13)]
at Indiana - L - [13-17 (6-14)]

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Nightmare Season
----------
F Dickinson - W - [1-0]
Drexel - W - [2-0]
St John's - L - [2-1]
E Michigan - L - [2-2]
Boston Univ - W - [3-2]
at Miami FL - L - [3-3]
Michigan St - L - [3-4 (0-1)]
at Wisconsin - L - [3-5 (0-2)]
at Fordham - W - [4-5 (0-2)]
at Seton Hall - L - [4-6 (0-2)]
Columbia - W - [5-6 (0-2)]
Maine - W - [6-6 (0-2)]
Maryland - L - [6-7 (0-3)]
Ohio St - L - [6-8 (0-4)]
at Minnesota - L - [6-9 (0-5)]
at Purdue - L - [6-10 (0-6)]
Northwestern - L - [6-11 (0-7)]
Nebraska - W - [7-11 (1-7)]
at Penn St - L - [7-12 (1-8)]
Indiana - W - [8-12 (2-8)]
at Ohio St - L - [8-13 (2-9)]
Michigan - L - [8-14 (2-10)]
at Illinois - L - [8-15 (2-11)]
at Northwestern - L - [8-16 (2-12)]
Iowa - L - [8-17 (2-13)]
at Michigan St - L - [8-18 (2-14)]
Minnesota - L - [8-19 (2-15)]
at Iowa - L - [8-20 (2-16)]
Penn St - L - [8-21 (2-17)]
at Indiana - L - [8-22 (2-18)]

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Horrible Season
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F Dickinson - L - [0-1]
Drexel - W - [1-1]
St John's - L - [1-2]
E Michigan - W - [2-2]
Boston Univ - W - [3-2]
at Miami FL - W - [4-2]
Michigan St - W - [5-2 (1-0)]
at Wisconsin - L - [5-3 (1-1)]
at Fordham - L - [5-4 (1-1)]
at Seton Hall - W - [6-4 (1-1)]
Columbia - W - [7-4 (1-1)]
Maine - L - [7-5 (1-1)]
Maryland - L - [7-6 (1-2)]
Ohio St - L - [7-7 (1-3)]
at Minnesota - W - [8-7 (2-3)]
at Purdue - L - [8-8 (2-4)]
Northwestern - L - [8-9 (2-5)]
Nebraska - L - [8-10 (2-6)]
at Penn St - L - [8-11 (2-7)]
Indiana - L - [8-12 (2-8)]
at Ohio St - L - [8-13 (2-9)]
Michigan - L - [8-14 (2-10)]
at Illinois - W - [9-14 (3-10)]
at Northwestern - L - [9-15 (3-11)]
Iowa - W - [10-15 (4-11)]
at Michigan St - L - [10-16 (4-12)]
Minnesota - L - [10-17 (4-13)]
at Iowa - L - [10-18 (4-14)]
Penn St - L - [10-19 (4-15)]
at Indiana - L - [10-20 (4-16)]

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Below Average Season
----------
F Dickinson - W - [1-0]
Drexel - W - [2-0]
St John's - L - [2-1]
E Michigan - W - [3-1]
Boston Univ - W - [4-1]
at Miami FL - L - [4-2]
Michigan St - L - [4-3 (0-1)]
at Wisconsin - W - [5-3 (1-1)]
at Fordham - W - [6-3 (1-1)]
at Seton Hall - L - [6-4 (1-1)]
Columbia - W - [7-4 (1-1)]
Maine - W - [8-4 (1-1)]
Maryland - L - [8-5 (1-2)]
Ohio St - L - [8-6 (1-3)]
at Minnesota - W - [9-6 (2-3)]
at Purdue - L - [9-7 (2-4)]
Northwestern - L - [9-8 (2-5)]
Nebraska - L - [9-9 (2-6)]
at Penn St - W - [10-9 (3-6)]
Indiana - W - [11-9 (4-6)]
at Ohio St - L - [11-10 (4-7)]
Michigan - L - [11-11 (4-8)]
at Illinois - L - [11-12 (4-9)]
at Northwestern - L - [11-13 (4-10)]
Iowa - W - [12-13 (5-10)]
at Michigan St - L - [12-14 (5-11)]
Minnesota - L - [12-15 (5-12)]
at Iowa - L - [12-16 (5-13)]
Penn St - L - [12-17 (5-14)]
at Indiana - L - [12-18 (5-15)]

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Above Average Season
----------
F Dickinson - W - [1-0]
Drexel - L - [1-1]
St John's - W - [2-1]
E Michigan - W - [3-1]
Boston Univ - W - [4-1]
at Miami FL - W - [5-1]
Michigan St - L - [5-2 (0-1)]
at Wisconsin - L - [5-3 (0-2)]
at Fordham - W - [6-3 (0-2)]
at Seton Hall - L - [6-4 (0-2)]
Columbia - W - [7-4 (0-2)]
Maine - L - [7-5 (0-2)]
Maryland - L - [7-6 (0-3)]
Ohio St - L - [7-7 (0-4)]
at Minnesota - L - [7-8 (0-5)]
at Purdue - W - [8-8 (1-5)]
Northwestern - W - [9-8 (2-5)]
Nebraska - W - [10-8 (3-5)]
at Penn St - L - [10-9 (3-6)]
Indiana - W - [11-9 (4-6)]
at Ohio St - L - [11-10 (4-7)]
Michigan - W - [12-10 (5-7)]
at Illinois - L - [12-11 (5-8)]
at Northwestern - L - [12-12 (5-9)]
Iowa - W - [13-12 (6-9)]
at Michigan St - L - [13-13 (6-10)]
Minnesota - W - [14-13 (7-10)]
at Iowa - L - [14-14 (7-11)]
Penn St - L - [14-15 (7-12)]
at Indiana - W - [15-15 (8-12)]

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Great Season
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F Dickinson - L - [0-1]
Drexel - W - [1-1]
St John's - W - [2-1]
E Michigan - W - [3-1]
Boston Univ - W - [4-1]
at Miami FL - L - [4-2]
Michigan St - L - [4-3 (0-1)]
at Wisconsin - L - [4-4 (0-2)]
at Fordham - W - [5-4 (0-2)]
at Seton Hall - W - [6-4 (0-2)]
Columbia - W - [7-4 (0-2)]
Maine - L - [7-5 (0-2)]
Maryland - W - [8-5 (1-2)]
Ohio St - L - [8-6 (1-3)]
at Minnesota - W - [9-6 (2-3)]
at Purdue - L - [9-7 (2-4)]
Northwestern - L - [9-8 (2-5)]
Nebraska - W - [10-8 (3-5)]
at Penn St - L - [10-9 (3-6)]
Indiana - W - [11-9 (4-6)]
at Ohio St - L - [11-10 (4-7)]
Michigan - W - [12-10 (5-7)]
at Illinois - W - [13-10 (6-7)]
at Northwestern - W - [14-10 (7-7)]
Iowa - W - [15-10 (8-7)]
at Michigan St - L - [15-11 (8-8)]
Minnesota - W - [16-11 (9-8)]
at Iowa - L - [16-12 (9-9)]
Penn St - L - [16-13 (9-10)]
at Indiana - L - [16-14 (10-10)]

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Dream Season
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F Dickinson - W - [1-0]
Drexel - W - [2-0]
St John's - W - [3-0]
E Michigan - W - [4-0]
Boston Univ - W - [5-0]
at Miami FL - L - [5-1]
Michigan St - L - [5-2 (0-1)]
at Wisconsin - L - [5-3 (0-2)]
at Fordham - W - [6-3 (0-2)]
at Seton Hall - L - [6-4 (0-2)]
Columbia - W - [7-4 (0-2)]
Maine - W - [8-4 (0-2)]
Maryland - W - [9-4 (1-2)]
Ohio St - W - [10-4 (2-2)]
at Minnesota - L - [10-5 (2-3)]
at Purdue - L - [10-6 (2-4)]
Northwestern - L - [10-7 (2-5)]
Nebraska - W - [11-7 (3-5)]
at Penn St - W - [12-7 (4-5)]
Indiana - W - [13-7 (5-5)]
at Ohio St - W - [14-7 (6-5)]
Michigan - L - [14-8 (6-6)]
at Illinois - L - [14-9 (6-7)]
at Northwestern - L - [14-10 (6-8)]
Iowa - W - [15-10 (7-8)]
at Michigan St - W - [16-10 (8-8)]
Minnesota - W - [17-10 (9-8)]
at Iowa - L - [17-11 (9-9)]
Penn St - W - [18-11 (10-9)]
at Indiana - W - [19-11 (11-9)]
 
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Top 3 departing players-2 Sr 1 Jr
Sanders/Freeman/Williams
FG 412/1031 40% 3pt 41/204 21%

Top 3 returning players- 2 So. 1 Fr.
Baker(53)/Omoruyi(0/5 from 3)/Thiam(44)
FG 312/745 42% 3pt 97/263 36%

The 3 returning players are much more efficient and have 2,2 and 3 more years to play and improve on the floor. From all reports all have become better players than last year. I highly doubt Geo shoots 38% FG/36% 3pt like last year more towards 45% FG/40% 3pt. this year. I think Omoruyi shoots over 50% FG this year compared to 47% last year. Thiam will get better than 42%/36% last year as well with a better supporting cast than last year. We do have Duke and Doorson returning as well

I see this team playing more like Purdue/team ball this year where last year they didn't have the talent or shooters to do so. This is a much stronger offensive team than they've had in a decade. I don't understand such negative views this year after winning 15 and 15 last 2 years with much less talent. Yes, the talent is younger, but the newcomers Pike has brought in are better prepared to handle the B1G schedule and travel of road games with Mathis from John Carroll and AAU, RHJ from Don Bosco and AAU, McConnell from Spire Academy and AAU, Shaq Carter 2 years of JUCO, Peter Kiss Quinnipiac and Myles Johnson is an unknown, but I'm very optimistic this year it will come together and we will win more than lose for the first time in over a decade.
 
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Top 3 departing players-2 Sr 1 Jr
Sanders/Freeman/Williams
FG 412/1031 40% 3pt 41/204 21%

Top 3 returning players- 2 So. 1 Fr.
Baker(53)/Omoruyi(0/5 from 3)/Thiam(44)
FG 312/745 42% 3pt 97/263 36%

The 3 returning players are much more efficient and have 2,2 and 3 more years to play and improve on the floor. From all reports all have become better players than last year. I highly doubt Geo shoots 38% FG/36% 3pt like last year more towards 45% FG/40% 3pt. this year. I think Omoruyi shoots over 50% FG this year compared to 47% last year. Thiam will get better than 42%/36% last year as well with a better supporting cast than last year. We do have Duke and Doorson returning as well

I see this team playing more like Purdue/team ball this year where last year they didn't have the talent or shooters to do so. This is a much stronger offensive team than they've had in a decade. I don't understand such negative views this year after winning 15 and 15 last 2 years with much less talent. Yes, the talent is younger, but the newcomers Pike has brought in are better prepared to handle the B1G schedule and travel of road games with Mathis from John Carroll and AAU, RHJ from Don Bosco and AAU, McConnell from Spire Academy and AAU, Shaq Carter 2 years of JUCO, Peter Kiss Quinnipiac and Myles Johnson is an unknown, but I'm very optimistic this year it will come together and we will win more than lose for the first time in over a decade.
I keep harping on this point as well. We lost a bunch of inefficient, terrible shooters. People on this board seem to think every upperclassman is better than every underclassman just bc they are older. I would rather have young talent on a team then more experienced players who flat out can't shoot and turn the ball over a lot. People are underestimating just how bad 21% is from 3. It is really a terrible terrible percentage especially from a PG and SG in a P5 conference.

Sanders and Freeman both demanded the ball and limited ball movement. This team is going to be much better with ball movement and passing leading to more open looks. Now we have players who can actually knock down some shots. Sanders had a very low assist to turnover ratio especially for a PG (granted teammates couldn't shoot). Williams had more turnovers than assists and couldn't create a shot or knock down an open one. Freeman was a turnover machine and over-matched inside in the B1G.

The youth is mostly coming from the bench as well. Geo Kiss Thiam EO Shaq D is not that young of a lineup. Geo is a true sophomore but also our best player. Kiss age wise is a junior to go with Thiam and EO and Shaq D is a senior. I don't think its unreasonable to expect something from Mathis and Harper coming off the bench in spurts considering their 4 star pedigree. Is anyone really that concerned about McConnell 10 mpg as a backup point? Yes, he is a freshman, but it is a clear upgrade from Souf or Dadika. Shaq Carter is a highly rated JuCo transfer. He isn't young. Myles has been here a year and Pike seems extremely pumped for what he can do. Doucoure was a 4 star and has a year of experience. There is so much Pike can do with this roster.

If the D can not drop off too much, the offense should be much better and deeper leading to more wins. There will be nights where a few players catch fire from 3 and combine that with the D and rebounding and you have a recipe for upsets. Geo Kiss Thiam Mathis Harper all are players who can get hot and nail a few threes in a game. Watch out when at least 3 of them are on fire on the same night! #GardenStatement
 
My prediction is that Thiam is our most improved player and makes a jump to average 12 ppg and solidified himself as our best defender.

Think we have overlooked him with all the buzz around the newcomers. He has the ability, just lacked the decisiveness. I think if the team is better passing (which by all accounts it should be), he will be the biggest beneficiary.
 
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We have been in last place the past 2 years and have been absolutely dreadful offensively. I think for us to move the needle we need to play our most skilled players. It isnt inconceivable Eugene plays the same amount of minutes as he did last year. Remember we had ZERO depth in the back court.

If I were to guess NJH has it right. There is 1 basketball if we can put 5 guys on the court that can put the ball in the basket Eugene doesnt score double digits..........unless he makes another quantum leap in the offseason.

It is inconceivable. SP called him the most improved player, not Geo, not Kiss, not Thiam. He is going to play 30 minutes per game.
 
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I keep harping on this point as well. We lost a bunch of inefficient, terrible shooters. People on this board seem to think every upperclassman is better than every underclassman just bc they are older. I would rather have young talent on a team then more experienced players who flat out can't shoot and turn the ball over a lot. People are underestimating just how bad 21% is from 3. It is really a terrible terrible percentage especially from a PG and SG in a P5 conference.

Sanders and Freeman both demanded the ball and limited ball movement. This team is going to be much better with ball movement and passing leading to more open looks. Now we have players who can actually knock down some shots. Sanders had a very low assist to turnover ratio especially for a PG (granted teammates couldn't shoot). Williams had more turnovers than assists and couldn't create a shot or knock down an open one. Freeman was a turnover machine and over-matched inside in the B1G.

The youth is mostly coming from the bench as well. Geo Kiss Thiam EO Shaq D is not that young of a lineup. Geo is a true sophomore but also our best player. Kiss age wise is a junior to go with Thiam and EO and Shaq D is a senior. I don't think its unreasonable to expect something from Mathis and Harper coming off the bench in spurts considering their 4 star pedigree. Is anyone really that concerned about McConnell 10 mpg as a backup point? Yes, he is a freshman, but it is a clear upgrade from Souf or Dadika. Shaq Carter is a highly rated JuCo transfer. He isn't young. Myles has been here a year and Pike seems extremely pumped for what he can do. Doucoure was a 4 star and has a year of experience. There is so much Pike can do with this roster.

If the D can not drop off too much, the offense should be much better and deeper leading to more wins. There will be nights where a few players catch fire from 3 and combine that with the D and rebounding and you have a recipe for upsets. Geo Kiss Thiam Mathis Harper all are players who can get hot and nail a few threes in a game. Watch out when at least 3 of them are on fire on the same night! #GardenStatement
I know it's only one game but anyone trying to revise their prediction?
 
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