The countdown to Oden begins already

[rurichdog]

You want a scary thought? What if Odin never puts on the weight and/or never learns enough of the playbook? Reset the clock next year.

 

[greenknight]

I've never seen so many arm chair QB's & arm chair coaches as in this thread

 

[zappaa]

I've never seen so many arm chair QB's & arm chair coaches as in this thread

What are sport fanatics supposed to be?
Muted worshipping followers with no opinions?
Who cares if we know nothin!:D

 

[Knight Shift]

I am getting pummeled for staritng the Shane Buechele Thread:
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...an-starting-qb-for-texas.106083/#post-2323809

 

[AntiG]

seriously though, what does Ash have to lose by giving Oden a shot? The team just got leveled, and Laviano was pretty awful last season. Might as well be trying to figure out which QB can really carry the load, especially since Oden is someone who you can develop to compete for a potential starting job in the offense in the long term.

 

[PaKnight]

• seriously though, what does Ash have to lose by giving Oden a shot? The team just got leveled, and Laviano was pretty awful last season. Might as well be trying to figure out which QB can really carry the load, especially since Oden is someone who you can develop to compete for a potential starting job in the offense in the long term.

  
  1 He may not be physically ready.
  2 Beyond being physically ready, you can do harm by playing a guy before he is ready

 

[rurichdog]

seriously though, what does Ash have to lose by giving Oden a shot? The team just got leveled, and Laviano was pretty awful last season. Might as well be trying to figure out which QB can really carry the load, especially since Oden is someone who you can develop to compete for a potential starting job in the offense in the long term.

As much as "I'd rather lose with Oden than lose with Laviano", I don't want Coach Ash to Tom Savage the guy.

 

[jsol_05]

Because Schiano said he was shocked that Rutgers didn't contact him.

And Coach Ash is a mid-western dude, who's learning about NJ on the fly. Rutgers is not Iowa nor is it Wisconsin. The school that most resembles Rutgers in the B10 is Purdue.

Coach Ash is toast. Instead of going with an experienced staff i.e. Maryland. He chose to go with an inexperienced staff and that was quite obvious yesterday.

Huge mistake. Every bad year is a two year set back. Two bad years, and all of a sudden, we're four years behind.

The ship had sailed, I appreciate what he did here but I did not want to see Schiano return.

 

[RU1993]

Then we slow roast Coach Ash, and he learns a valuable lesson on his way out the door. When you take over a program, you might want to make sure you have the QB situation sorted out.

Coach Ash should have gone after two JUCO QB's, and quietly shown Laviano the door. The fact that Mehringer believes that Laviano can run his system, immediately causes me to question his competency as OC.

Laviano is a Patriot league QB, and the fact that Coach Ash is trying to force him to run a spread, is indicative of the fact that Coach is in over his head.

Remember Folks, this is his first rodeo. And yes, I blame Hobbs, because he could have at least interviewed Schiano.[/QUOTE


New staff comes in with a new offense, to which we have no quarterback to run. They go out and get a fifth year senior and recruit a freshman that can run this type of offense. laviano is the most experienced an we have. Do you expect the coaches to trash him when they have no other real options. This isn't about this year, it is about the future.

By the way don't forget that Schiano left is in the lurch. No reason to ever bring him back.

 

[RUMBA-JK]

• 
  
  1 He may not be physically ready.
  2 Beyond being physically ready, you can do harm by playing a guy before he is ready

[3.] The Offense is not even remotely close to being sufficiently functional - especially against a team like Washington - 30% to 50% of the plays end up with execution elements that are moderately to critically wrong - so even if Oden has a reasonable grasp of what he is supposed to do - he would be just one WTF team mistake away from destruction - yes that is a risk every player takes - but Oden has very very little experience in 'disaster survival' - he is has experience in doing well (that is why he was a desirable recruit).
It is not fun watching Laviano blunder / plod / misfire - but ... in an opening game like this one, with an opponent that has their sights set on trying to contend for the National Title and is fixated on winning big & dominantly... you hold your nose & play the guy who has lived through this kind of thing - you don't throw your 'prospect for the future' out there as an unprotected human sacrifice.
The cynical truth is that Laviano is the "crash test dummy" / the stunt double / the 'test pilot' - he is a placeholder while the offense learns how to not be toxic - and he has enough experience getting whacked , surprised, ambushed that he manages to survive. Harsh - maybe - but - he is expendable - Laviano is not going to be known as "legendary" - years from now you will not hear anyone say "remember those great Laviano games" - if somebody blows a blocking assignment and he gets brutally destroyed you are not going to hear "Oh crap -there goes our future' . He is not quite - but almost like -that long reliever that some teams have who is seen as an "inning eater" - they are "useful" in challenging situations.

Going forward -
(A.)if Laviano is QBing the team against a lesser opponent & things are going like clockwork - OK ... keep him in to continue imprinting positive patterns on the offense - and then in the second half when the situation is sound - put in another QB - begin to acclimate them to the on-field game-day experience with this team - get them to feel what it is like - in a situation where they can manage the game

(B.) if Laviano is QBing against a lesser opponent & things are lack-luster - & if the team is basically functional - but Laviano is dull & out of sync - pull him!!! - PULL HIM !!! put in Allen ... put in Gio ... heck - put in Rettig