Tournament Thread: NCAA Wrestling Championships Session 5, Saturday 11 am

[Jersey Boys]

Brain lapse. Who's the third AA from South Plainfield?

Mentioned above. They include Ashnault in that so not necessarily 3 this year

 

[Abro1975]

Both Montclair State and Trenton State (D3 schools) have had NCAA D1 National Champions. Montclair also had multiple D1 finalists and All Americans (in order of finish):

1978 - Ken Mallory, national champion, 134 pounds (Montclair)
1981 - Tom Martucci, national champion, 190 pounds (Trenton State)
1989 - Karl Monaco, 2nd place, 150 pounds (Montclair)
1988 - Karl Monaco, 3rd place, 142 pounds (Montclair)
1985 - John Monaco, 4th place, 167 pounds (Montclair)
1989 - Pete Gonzalez, 5th place, 126 pounds (Montclair)
1988 - Pete Gonzalez, 7th place, 126 pounds (Montclair)

Mike Jacoutot lost in the blood round in 1981 while competing at 126 pounds for Trenton State.

Seton Hall had 3 All Americans, notably 2x AA Joe Burke, who was the #1 seed at 158 pounds in 1995:

1995 - Joe Burke, 3rd place, 158 pounds (Seton Hall)
1993 - Joe Burke, 4th place, 150 pounds (Seton Hall)
1995 - Lou Cerchio, 7th place, 167 pounds (Seton Hall)

Rider has a rich wrestling tradition - no finalists, but 17 All Americans, some 2x AA (Walsh and Carvalheira). Also, three 3rd place finishers:

1980 - Lou DiSerafino, 3rd place, 190 pounds (Rider)
1991 - Adam Derengowski, 3rd place, 118 pounds (Rider)
2009 - Doug Umbehauer, 3rd place, 184 pounds (Rider).

Personally, I miss the days when D3 guys wrestled in the D1 tournament. I'm also bummed that both Montclair and Seton Hall discontinued their programs. Wrestling seems to be dying a slow death, that would be a shame. I'm a Seton Hall alum, but root hard for Rider, Princeton, and Rutgers wrestling - NJ history is too rich and great to let fade into memory.

Good luck to DelVecchio and Suriano today, you've made Jersey proud!

Awesome post and info !!!

 

[koleszar]

Both Montclair State and Trenton State (D3 schools) have had NCAA D1 National Champions. Montclair also had multiple D1 finalists and All Americans (in order of finish):

1978 - Ken Mallory, national champion, 134 pounds (Montclair)
1981 - Tom Martucci, national champion, 190 pounds (Trenton State)
1989 - Karl Monaco, 2nd place, 150 pounds (Montclair)
1988 - Karl Monaco, 3rd place, 142 pounds (Montclair)
1985 - John Monaco, 4th place, 167 pounds (Montclair)
1989 - Pete Gonzalez, 5th place, 126 pounds (Montclair)
1988 - Pete Gonzalez, 7th place, 126 pounds (Montclair)

Mike Jacoutot lost in the blood round in 1981 while competing at 126 pounds for Trenton State.

Seton Hall had 3 All Americans, notably 2x AA Joe Burke, who was the #1 seed at 158 pounds in 1995:

1995 - Joe Burke, 3rd place, 158 pounds (Seton Hall)
1993 - Joe Burke, 4th place, 150 pounds (Seton Hall)
1995 - Lou Cerchio, 7th place, 167 pounds (Seton Hall)

Rider has a rich wrestling tradition - no finalists, but 17 All Americans, some 2x AA (Walsh and Carvalheira). Also, three 3rd place finishers:

1980 - Lou DiSerafino, 3rd place, 190 pounds (Rider)
1991 - Adam Derengowski, 3rd place, 118 pounds (Rider)
2009 - Doug Umbehauer, 3rd place, 184 pounds (Rider).

Personally, I miss the days when D3 guys wrestled in the D1 tournament. I'm also bummed that both Montclair and Seton Hall discontinued their programs. Wrestling seems to be dying a slow death, that would be a shame. I'm a Seton Hall alum, but root hard for Rider, Princeton, and Rutgers wrestling - NJ history is too rich and great to let fade into memory.

Good luck to DelVecchio and Suriano today, you've made Jersey proud!

That was mostly Title IX casualties. The sport has pretty much stabilized now after all the undo carnage.

Fun fact:

Many of the most prominent figures that spearheaded the Title IX movement agreed the implementation of Title IX had adverse affects on Olympic collegiate sports. Their true intention was never realized. As they never envisioned Universities would eliminate sports to meet the new requirements instead of increasing spending.

 

[Abro1975]

So what time is 5th/6th and 3rd/4th matches taking place? My wife wants to go to lunch but I'm not missing this once a year event. I can't find the friggin schedule.

Right after these bouts, figure around 12:30-1 pm.

Tonight is just the Featured Finals.

 

[PSUPOWER]

Awesome post and info !!!

Current Standings:

01 Ohio St 127.5
02 Penn St 121.5
03 Iowa 89.0
04 Michigan 77.0
05 North Carolina St 76.0
06 Missouri 61.5
07 Virginia Tech 44.5
08 Nebraska 44.0
09 Cornell 43.0
10 RUTGERS 42.5
11 Oklahoma St 37.5
12 Arizona St 37.0
12 South Dakota St 37.0
14 Illinois 36.5
14 Lehigh 36.5
16 Lock Haven 35.0
17 Minnesota 27.5
17 Wyoming 27.5
19 North Carolina 26.0
20 Wisconsin 24.5

 

[PSUPOWER]

Current Standings:

01 Ohio St 122.0
02 Penn St 120.5
03 Iowa 90.0
04 Michigan 77.0
05 North Carolina St 74.0
06 Missouri 61.5
07 Virginia Tech 44.5
08 Cornell 43.0
09 RUTGERS 42.5
10 Nebraska 41.0
11 Arizona St 37.0
11 South Dakota St 37.0
13 Illinois 36.5
14 Oklahoma St 35.5
15 Lock Haven 35.0
16 Lehigh 34.5
17 Minnesota 27.5
17 Wyoming 27.5
19 North Carolina 26.0
20 Wisconsin 24.5
21 Northwestern 20.0

Tyler Berger's (NEB) SV-1 win
over Micah Jordan (OSU)
has helped place Nebraska
on RUTGERS heels.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Question about the rankings system in wrestling: If a team finishes, say, 5th in the NCAAs, are they ranked 5th at the end of the season or are the duals factored in?

 

[rondi]

Scott on Deck Mat 1

Go RU!
Diane

 

[PSUPOWER]

Question about the rankings system in wrestling: If a team finishes, say, 5th in the NCAAs, are they ranked 5th at the end of the season or are the duals factored in?

The Director's Cup does not factor in Duals.
At least, they didn't last year.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Another question, this one is about scoring. When a wrestler is taken down and escapes, he's awarded a point for the escape. When he's taken down and then reverses the guy, he's awarded two points for the reversal. But in theory a reversal is both an escape and then an immediate takedown, so why did they come up with it being its own 2-point category rather than a 3-pointer?

 

[Abro1975]

Another question, this one is about scoring. When a wrestler is taken down and escapes, he's awarded a point for the escape. When he's taken down and then reverses the guy, he's awarded two points for the reversal. But in theory a reversal is both an escape and then an immediate takedown, so why did they come up with it being its own 2-point category rather than a 3-pointer?

In an escape both wrestlers are then in the 'neutral ' position even if only for a 1 count. In a reversal, neutral never happend, the reversal was one continuous move.

 

[80RU]

Hoping for some good play by play from the fortunate folks who can watch.

 

[Abro1975]

Hoping for some good play by play from the fortunate folks who can watch.

Listen to WRSU online or on a radio. They do a terrific job.

http://radio.rutgers.edu/listen-live/

 

[PSUPOWER]

The Director's Cup does not factor in Duals.
At least, they didn't last year.

Jordan Kutler (LEH) is injured.
Lehigh will not be able to match RUTGERS this year.

 

[Abro1975]

133- Delvecchio trailing 2-0 and getting ridden hard, mid first. #4 Kaid Brock is tough. Ok St will gain ground on RU in this match most likely.C'mon Scott !

 

[PSUPOWER]

Current Standings:

01 Ohio St 126.5
02 Penn St 120.5
03 Iowa 89.0
04 Michigan 77.0
05 North Carolina St 74.0
06 Missouri 61.5
07 Virginia Tech 44.5
08 Cornell 43.0
09 RUTGERS 42.5
10 Nebraska 41.0
11 Arizona St 37.0
11 South Dakota St 37.0
13 Illinois 36.5
14 Lehigh 35.5
14 Oklahoma St 35.5
16 Lock Haven 35.0
17 Minnesota 27.5
17 Wyoming 27.5
19 North Carolina 26.0
20 Wisconsin 24.5

Brock 2 DelV 0 after 1.

 

[Abro1975]

133- end 1st, Delvec trailing 2-0 plus a lot of RT.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Del seems out of sorts today.

 

[koleszar]

Now 5-0 with 3:38 of riding time. Delvecchio hasn't tried anything yet. Announcer just said we have 3 AA's.[roll]. Including Lewis.

 

[Abro1975]

Del seems out of sorts today.

Competition much better this bout and previous. #3 and 4 seeds, guys ranked in the top 5 all year.

 

[R U Crazy]

Nebraska has a few wrestlers that can win and jump ahead of RU
Going to be close for a top 10 finish

 

[Abro1975]

Tariq Wilson dominated #3 Pletcher, 17-8

 

[koleszar]

Almost 5 mins. of riding time. Just looks like the amount of matches finally caught up to him today. Not the same wrestler I saw last night.

 

[Leonard23]

DelVecchio seemed tired and slow today. Can't blame him as this tourney is a grind. Great run to become an AA and finish 6th!

Btw, unranked Wilson just beat Pletcher 17-8 and had him on his back a few times.

 

[Abro1975]

Nebraska has a few wrestlers that can win and jump ahead of RU
Going to be close for a top 10 finish

141
7th Place Match
Sa`Derian Perry (Eastern Michiga) vs Chad Red (Nebraska)
Mat 2
Bout
613
157
3rd Place Match
Tyler Berger (Nebraska) vs Michael Kemerer (Iowa)
Mat 2
Bout
622
184
3rd Place Match
Taylor Venz (Nebraska) vs Emory Parker (Illinois)

 

[R U Crazy]

Sa'Derian is 18-18
great run

 

[LETSGORU91]

Del seems out of sorts today.

I don't see it that way. He seems to wrestle the same way all the time. When someone is more technically sound on their feet or riding Scott, he has trouble. That being said, Scott is #6 and what an awesome accomplishment for him and RU!! Congrats on the AA!!!

 

[Abro1975]

Rutgers Wrestling‏@RUWrestling 33s33 seconds ago


Congratulations, Scott DelVecchio, who is just the fourth Scarlet Knight since 1979 to go from unseeded to All-American, placing sixth in his weight class at 133 pounds.

 

[PSUPOWER]

Current Standings:

01 Ohio St 126.5
02 Penn St 120.5
03 Iowa 89.0
04 Michigan 77.0
05 North Carolina St 76.0
06 Missouri 61.5
07 Virginia Tech 44.5
08 Cornell 43.0
09 RUTGERS 42.5
10 Nebraska 41.0
11 Oklahoma St 37.5
12 Arizona St 37.0
12 South Dakota St 37.0
14 Illinois 36.5
14 Lehigh 36.5
16 Lock Haven 35.0
17 Minnesota 27.5
17 Wyoming 27.5
19 North Carolina 26.0
20 Wisconsin 24.5

It is up to Nick Suriano tonight.

 

[R U Crazy]

Red pins Perry at buzzer...Uggg, went from a simple decision to Pin

 

[RU Mike73]

How many additional points if Nick wins?

 

[R U Crazy]

4 i think

 

[koleszar]

Nebraska has a few wrestlers that can win and jump ahead of RU
Going

We are not going to finish in the top 10. Too many schools nipping at our heels that have wrestlers still in the consolations and finals. I think we place anywhere between 12 to 14. ASU wins these next 2 bouts they jump us as well.

 

[PSUPOWER]

141
7th Place Match
Sa`Derian Perry (Eastern Michiga) vs Chad Red (Nebraska)
Mat 2
Bout
613
157
3rd Place Match
Tyler Berger (Nebraska) vs Michael Kemerer (Iowa)
Mat 2
Bout
622
184
3rd Place Match
Taylor Venz (Nebraska) vs Emory Parker (Illinois)

Current Standings:

01 Ohio St 130.5
02 Penn St 121.5
03 Iowa 90.0
04 Michigan 80.0
05 North Carolina St 76.0
06 Missouri 61.5
07 Virginia Tech 47.5
08 Nebraska 47.0
09 Cornell 44.0
10 RUTGERS 42.5
11 Arizona St 39.0
12 South Dakota St 38.0
13 Illinois 37.5
13 Oklahoma St 37.5
15 Lehigh 36.5
16 Lock Haven 35.0
17 Minnesota 27.5
17 Wisconsin 27.5
17 Wyoming 27.5
20 North Carolina 27.0

 

[PSUPOWER]

Current Standings:

01 Ohio St 127.5
02 Penn St 121.5
03 Iowa 90.0
04 Michigan 77.0
05 North Carolina St 76.0
06 Missouri 61.5
07 Nebraska 47.0
08 Virginia Tech 44.5
09 Cornell 43.0
10 RUTGERS 42.5
11 Arizona St 38.0
12 Oklahoma St 37.5
13 South Dakota St 37.0
14 Illinois 36.5
14 Lehigh 36.5
16 Lock Haven 35.0
17 Minnesota 27.5
17 Wyoming 27.5
19 North Carolina 26.0
20 Wisconsin 24.5

Nebraska is surging.

 

[PSUPOWER]

We are not going to finish in the top 10. Too many schools nipping at our heels that have wrestlers still in the consolations and finals. I think we place anywhere between 12 to 14. ASU wins these next 2 bouts they jump us as well. The free fall will start now.

If Nick Suriano wins tonight, there won't be any free fall.

 

[R U Crazy]

We probably all would have signed up for a top 15 at the beginning of tournament.
As was stated earlier 42.5 points is a RU Record.
2 AA
2 Lost in Blood round.
Our depth is what hampered us this NCAA tourney.

I will be GLUED to TV at 7:45.....My Fear...Freak Storm and my Satellite TV goes out. Thankfully I have Landline Cable and my phone as backup plans!

 

[DJ Spanky]

Many of the most prominent figures that spearheaded the Title IX movement agreed the implementation of Title IX had adverse affects on Olympic collegiate sports. Their true intention was never realized. As they never envisioned Universities would eliminate sports to meet the new requirements instead of increasing spending.

Of course, nobody has the courage to try to push through a more common sense approach to this.

 

[Abro1975]

Interesting interview w Wisconsin Coach Davis. Said he wouldn't be out of coaching long. Guess he was asked to resign there.

 

[R U Crazy]

Very interesting. Who wouldn't want him to be their coach.