Your post doesnt make sense. If the program flounders over the next few years and he gets canned in 2024 for that reason why would it have been stupid to just do it in 2022 instead? Again, im kind of just throwing this out there, we all know it aint gonna happen after this season
Because time travel isn't a thing? Like, why would I look back from 2024 wishing I had made some irrational decision in 2022? That's called mental weakness kyk, I thought you were better than that. But then, you want to hire some mediocre Oklahoma State coach so I guess I underestimated you..
Haha oh trust me, if the decision was mine pike is gone in march 2022. The decision isnt mine tho so therefore i just point out the reality. I also dont think when you lay out the facts that its be irrational to move on from pike on march 2022. But again, its not gonna happen because the bar is buried here. Were a fan base that thinks making the ncaa tournament is a huge accomplishment. We have such a low bar here
If we should have a high bar why do you want to hire a guy who has never cracked the top 30 in kenpom????
He had to do something to distract local press and the fanbase from having the worst offseason of any program in the country.
That is difference between Mens Basketball, and for that matter Women's Basketball, and Football. With Football, you can see a basis for hope in the future based on talent infusion that is coming in.
Local guy, good recruiter, has produced a top 5 pick, has beat a natty champ, has gone as far as pike already in the tourney in his first head coaching gig which he landed at age 34 at a p5, learned under brad underwood. He has a really high ceiling imo.
I gave credit when due and i was around after big wins giving credit so youre completely wrong there. I also just call it like i see it and most dont like that. I said in 2017 @ nebraska that after i witnessed the team coming out of the locker room ash needed to go, to which people called me crazy. Im saying the same now, pike aint gonna cut it here and its gonna get worse before it gets better. And better wont occur until hes gone which imo doesnt happen til march 2024
So 5 games into this year , which has started about as bad as possible and 2-3 players playing as bad as possible and shooting even worse , has cemented it for you . As I said you give Pike no credit for the last 2 years. Not for the players he recruited , how he developed them , how he beat the top teams in the Big 10 in arguably the best 2 years in conference history , top to bottom , and having 2 NCAA worthy teams coming from being 275 in Kenpom when Eddie got canned. Like I said you are a pathetic front runner , scattering at the first sign of trouble.
I agree that this is how many programs run things. Personally, I don’t believe that’s realistically how we should be running our program in 2021. We are simply not a perennial top 30 team.
I don’t think he will wither and think there is quite a healthy debate that would support that. Just saying what separates the athletics departments that consistently win vs the others.
You mean the two years where we went to the tourney? The best in 30 years? Those two?
So the year when no team went to the tourney because it was cancelled, and we would have been in, counts? Jeez, it seems like you might have an agenda.
Come on... Would have danced in 2020 and last year Johnson jams and we beat Houston who went to the final 4 and we could have...Please stop...It's November...Let the season play out please...Geez...
To be fair, we were 50/50 in 2020. There were guys who didnt have us in (jerry palm) and those who did had us as last 4 in
Nah youre wrong. Its simply about looking forward. What makes you optimistic moving forward? Anything? If pike had loaded recruiting classes lined up id simply be saying, “give it time, we knew this year would be a step back but reinforcements are on the way”. I mean this aint hard. Things are going to get worse
No, after Purdue we were pretty much guaranteed in. Before that game it was in doubt.
I agree with your sentiment, but who has he recruited that gives you any hope of success moving forward? Geo and Ron, as frustrating as their play has been, at least they have somewhat of a track record of success. Jaden looks like a nice offensive player and Cliff is an athlete at center (though needs a ton of work at both ends of the court). Who else gives you hope?
I thought every single bracket listed on Bracket Matrix had us in.
I don't know how many times this needs to be explained. Pikiell did it his way and it worked. That has earned him the chance to continue doing it his way.
Pike gives me hope! Just saw his post game presser and it was as sober an assessment as I have seen any coach give of the performance of his team. Many of the gripes people have expressed on this board are areas that pike covered in his presser and it was not excuse making either.
His vision of what exactly? that his reality believes that guys who otherwise would go to cleveland state come to RU and thats the recipe to win? Lol
Sounds fair. All the more reason the OP starting this thread is a turd, a front runner , who should go root fir another team. Guaranteed he is rooting hard for Seton Hall this year.
Lol, this is the same board that i got called basically hitler for because i audibly yelled “**** seton hall” during a break in the anthem in 2019. I did in fact grow up a SHU fan but once I went to RU I changed my loyalty. I do still watch hall but dont root for them. Objectively speaking theyre gonna beat the tar out of us tho. This is their best team since the final 4 squad imo
You ain’t changing your stripes so quick when it comes to basketball. Football you have been all in on Schiano but hopefully you do realize the offense has not put the guys in the best position to succeed.
This is a very sensible and accurate post. No need for me to read the rest of this thread.
In 2 years when Pike is still running an iso offense with no playmakers on the court, are you going to apologize to kyk and say he was right?
