What do you think will happen with flood ?

[Plum Street]

Not what you want to happen , but what do you think will happen ? I think we win 4 games and maybe even hang around in one of the big underdog games . He survives because this is Rutgers . Most other places he is fired (actually most other places he wouldn't have been hired )

 

[Caliknight]

It isn't what would happen with Flood that is the question, it is what would happen if Flood were relieved.

This administration has no balls. It will be another Flood. And the cycle will continue. The same people who are apoplectic and in a few cases psychotic about Flood, haven't figured this out yet.

They must not be too smart.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

It's about $$ and $$ we don't have...he's not likely to get fired this year...unless we go winless for the rest of the season and then someone will get the interim tag...not pretty, but we are not Oregon or Michigan and we can't afford to be paying multiple coaches...

 

[BoogieKnight]

Well, in fairness to Kyle I believe he is still 7 games over .500 for his career a quarter of the way through his 4th season as HC. Even if we go 4-8 he will still be 3 games over .500 for his career as HC. This is Rutgers and we don't fire winning coaches for not winning enough (like Nebraska did with Bo). So if there are no other snafus off the field and he doesn't resign on his own I fully expect him back in 2016. That said, I could see next year being the end of the line for Kyle and possibly even Julie if our PR perception doesn't improve. I honestly think the Prez and BOG are sick of the embarrassment our athletic department has brought upon us recently. B1G membership was supposed to help the outside perception of the university, not destroy it.

 

[MozRU]

No $.

Flood will be on the sidelines next year. All of GS's recruits will be gone at the end of the season and any ties to the time we belonged. 2017 - only God knows with this clown show.

Somehow the B1G puts us back to the Shea era.

 

[RUBOB72]

We may fire Flood but I'm getting the biggest kick out of how many people are blaming him for all the penalties after his suspension... the fumbles... the missed chances at turnovers ...lack of blocked punts...lack of sacks ...not playing Rettig over Laviano...lack of productive O-line line play ...with all the distractions and new players it's not surprising ...but then again we have seen many teams do the same over the years... like the self loathing state we have become Rutgers fanbase shows why we are ridiculed even without negative press...

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

Even delusionAL might have a tough time painting is as the Ohio state of the east or Bama of the north of things don't settle out!

 

[BoogieKnight]

No $.

Flood will be on the sidelines next year. All of GS's recruits will be gone at the end of the season and any ties to the time we belonged. 2017 - only God knows with this clown show.

Somehow the B1G puts us back to the Shea era.

Well we've already won more games as members of the Big Ten (10) as we did during Shea's entire 5 years here so I wouldn't go that far yet. But we are definitely trending downward. Maybe that was the Big Ten's plan for us. Tear our joke of an athletic department down while starving us of $$$ for 6 years then rebuild it B1G style. No one expected us to come in and tear it up right away.

 

[Pritz99]

There's not enough to fire him for cause, so the University will be on the hook for his contract. So it depends on how much of a buyout Flood would accept. He must remember if he's kept recruiting will go into the dumpster and the record will be even worse next year with the dearth of talent. Does he want his reputation to take that gig a hit? He's got to be thinking about his next job. As you can tell from reading this board, a lot of people consider him a capable coach.

What I'd like to see happen (and it has zero % chance of happening) is the University and Flood agree that he cannot continue as the HC. The PR damage to RU would be too great. Demote him to Associate Coach?OL coach with a drop in pay (I actually think he's a terrific OL coach and OL recruiter).

Hire a new HC, probably keep the majority of the 2016 class (not the main reason for doing this), keep players like Hamilton happy, keep players like Rettig hopeful.

No protracted battles, $$ satisfactory for everybody, smooth transition. RU could actually come out of this looking like they know what they're doing!!

But I know it'll never happen.

 

[bac2therac]

Fired after a 4-8 season

 

[cRURah]

I have no confidence that the buffoons who run Rutgers will do what must be done and get rid of the coach who should never have been our coach in the first place. Barring another off-the-field fiasco, Flood will be here next year regardless of the won/loss record. Our AD may not like it but she is impotent in this matter.

 

[LevaosLectures]

If Flood got fired would he get interviewed for other jobs? He's not a coordinator and no p5 school would hire him.

I could see him coaching in the CAA I guess
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[BoogieKnight]

If Flood got fired would he get interviewed for other jobs? He's not a coordinator and no p5 school would hire him.

I could see him coaching in the CAA I guess
.

I think Flood would be highly successful at a place like DelAware or Lehigh. Like win FCS national championships.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Fired after a 4-8 season

+ 1 though I think it may be 3

 

[SanFranRutgers]

What do you think will happen to Flood? Not, what do you hope will happen ...

He'll be here for at least another season, if not two. No change for him in 2016, unless Rutgers puts up fewer than 4 wins. His minor administrative transgression will be in the rear-view mirror in two weeks, and he'll be facing a 2015 record that looked pretty much exactly the way everyone expected his 2014 record to look. If he and the Athletic Department manage to prevent the recruiting class from going all fall-of-2013 on him, he'll bank on getting another year to have three Big Ten seasons under review before anyone takes a serious look at changing leadership.

That's a guess about how it will go down, not an expression of desire. If the President, the A.D., and the BOG didn't send him packing after the recent wave of bad press, then his leadership and management are held in regard by the people in charge -- more than enough to chalk up a poor 2015 record to circumstances "beyond his control."

 

[cohwx]

Think this is likely a 3-4 win season. 4 wins or more and I expect he's back, unless there are other off-field issues. 3 wins, not sure, but wouldn't be surprised if he's still here next year. Just don't see this administration stepping up until the Big 10 money is flowing.

 

[RUSK97]

3 win season. Flood will receive a lavish 20 year extension worth 45 million. He'll continue to pile on losing seasons, then get strung up for something insignificant but blown out of proportion by the Ledger. Rutgers will be on the hook for his salary due to poor contract execution. Flood will retire with payments from Rutgers for the rest of his life. Barchi axes FB and disassembles the stadium for scrap metal to pay Flood's salary. Barchi retires. Rutgers tabs Killingsworth as the next President. Rutgers students are required to pay subsidies to support Michigan.

 

[MADHAT1]

Fired after a 4-8 season

Hope you're right, but feel that Barchi will find a way to justify keeping him so Flood's contract won't be bought out and more funds needed to hire a new HC and staff ( think Flood's staff are on 1 year contracts, so no buyouts there).

 

[RUich]

I no longer believe he will be back next season. I think that the pressure on the administration from the faculty, alumni and maybe the BIG will have him seeing the door. The final record will be the straw that stirs the drink.

Unfortunately, I do not see us getting anyone of note to replace him and I am afraid we will see another long time of forgettable football.

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

We beat Maryland by 35.

He returns.

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

I think he'll be fired and Schiano hired by season end at $3mill with donor support.

 

[saran]

What's probably needed is a nudge from the B1G. A " please get your act together" wink. I'm sure football people in the B1G know what a turd RU is becoming. This isn't the BE no matter how much RU and even some fans would like to think it is.

 

[RURM85]

Absolutely nothing. He'll be coaching next year and the year after that.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

He will be terminated unless we are 7-5 or more

 

[mikefla]

I think he stays his full contract despite all the fan lynchmob mentality.

When his time is up we will have had some time in the B10 and some success,,(we DID go to a bowl last year and were Lambert Trophy winners!!!!!)....and there WILL be GOOD coaching candidates that WANT to coach a B10 team and will be WILLING to come to THE BANKS and give it a shot.

I BELIEVE that.............

 

[WhoRU?]

The board had their chance a few weeks back and decided not to fire him. At that point, they could have fired him for cause, though a small behind the scenes buy-out would have likely occurred to keep him from going to the press.

In choosing to suspend, we have to assume that they are supporting Flood for the long run (because they had an inexpensive "out" and decided not to take it).

 

[saltpepperketchup]

There's not enough to fire him for cause, so the University will be on the hook for his contract. So it depends on how much of a buyout Flood would accept. He must remember if he's kept recruiting will go into the dumpster and the record will be even worse next year with the dearth of talent. Does he want his reputation to take that gig a hit? He's got to be thinking about his next job. As you can tell from reading this board, a lot of people consider him a capable coach.

What I'd like to see happen (and it has zero % chance of happening) is the University and Flood agree that he cannot continue as the HC. The PR damage to RU would be too great. Demote him to Associate Coach?OL coach with a drop in pay (I actually think he's a terrific OL coach and OL recruiter).

Hire a new HC, probably keep the majority of the 2016 class (not the main reason for doing this), keep players like Hamilton happy, keep players like Rettig hopeful.

No protracted battles, $$ satisfactory for everybody, smooth transition. RU could actually come out of this looking like they know what they're doing!!

But I know it'll never happen.

I believe floods buyout has already been determined in his contract extension. He gets $1.4m. But I believe RU would only have to shell out $700k as Jules secured the other $700k through donor commitments.

So relatively cheep buyout. .. it comes down to his much we can pay for the new coach and what that could buy us. Jules needs to figure that out before pulling the trigger.

 

[SanFranRutgers]

I hope this thread is still board-accessible in December.

 

[RUbacker]

What do you think will happen to Flood? Not, what do you hope will happen ...

He'll be here for at least another season, if not two. No change for him in 2016, unless Rutgers puts up fewer than 4 wins. His minor administrative transgression will be in the rear-view mirror in two weeks, and he'll be facing a 2015 record that looked pretty much exactly the way everyone expected his 2014 record to look. If he and the Athletic Department manage to prevent the recruiting class from going all fall-of-2013 on him, he'll bank on getting another year to have three Big Ten seasons under review before anyone takes a serious look at changing leadership.

That's a guess about how it will go down, not an expression of desire. If the President, the A.D., and the BOG didn't send him packing after the recent wave of bad press, then his leadership and management are held in regard by the people in charge -- more than enough to chalk up a poor 2015 record to circumstances "beyond his control."

Are you sure about that? Check back on this post down the road.

 

[brgossRU90]

Until you see evidence to the contrary assume the worst. He'll be back.

 

[SanFranRutgers]

Are you sure about that? Check back on this post down the road.

LIke I said in the post above yours ...

 

[Rnation]

Flood should be fired. he has destroyed this program. this is Rutgers so he will be kept around because he comes cheap. starting this year we will win 4-5 games and that will be the new norm under this clown show.

 

[RUbacker]

LIke I said in the post above yours ...

There could be more info coming out.

 

[KingHigh]

As much as it pains me, I'd have to admit that I expect no more than 4 wins this year, which will necessitate a change at HC. Not only is the team perhaps the worst in the B1G, but it is in fact in the bottom 5 of all P5 teams. I like Flood a lot, and really think he has a bright future, but I do not see any aspect of the program upgrading under his leadership, and the last month and a half has been difficult for us all to bear as Rutgers fans. The idea that change just for the sake of change is not something that appeals to me at all, but I acknowledge at some point we'll need to go a different direction. Julie gets one crack at a HC hire and the sooner she gets her opportunity to do so, probably the better.

 

[GSGS]

Coach Flood will be teaching high school math in 5 years, at which time he will receive a note from the HS head football coach's personal email to change the grade of a star player so he can retain eligibility. The S/L will report on the irony.

 

[Abro1975]

Flood promoted to Athletic Director, Julie becomes Asst to President Barchi. Greg Schiano becomes new Head Coach. Coach Demo back as a defensive asst. Ray Lucas hired as QB coach.

 

[SanFranRutgers]

There could be more info coming out.

There is, or there could be?

 

[Doctor Worm]

I think the other shoe has yet to drop. That is - the forthcoming opinion from outside counsel as to whether an NCAA violation has occurred. I have no idea what that opinion will be. But I do believe that if they opine Flood's actions broke NCAA rules, that will be the last straw. He'll be gone within days of the announcement.

 

[bitnez]

It's over. The question is whether he makes it to the Army game. I think this season is going to get really ugly.

 

[czxqa]

I think at some point the conversation will be had with him that he will be resigning at the end of the season. Whether that discussion has been had already or will be done in November, who knows. He won't be back next year. Barchi has been handling this himself, which also speaks to the lack of trust in his athletic director.