So BC PSU fans think they are unrivaled their school should puss away 5 million a year in exchange for 2 million results? You must work for the federal government
WITH TEXAS EXPECTED TO MOVE ON FROM CHARLIE STRONG STAGE IS SET FOR ROBUST TURN ON COACHING CAROUSEL
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If you think the PSU job is among the best in the country, the AD will not (a) be able to find a coach of the proper caliber for $2 million and (b) the fan base would not settle for a hire on the cheap, especially ahead of what will be a massive fund-raising campaign for a stadium refurbishment that could cost upwards of $500 million.
Like I said, the idea of a PSU head coach making $2 million a season is a non-starter. Now, if you don't think PSU is in that upper echelon of jobs, that's another story, though we'd fundamentally disagree. If/when PSU fires Franklin it'll be because he didn't win enough, not because he didn't win enough for what he was paid. And PSU will just go out and hire another coach at a high salary and try again.
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you are confused and I don't know why to be honest. I didn't say PSU isn't a top job or you shouldn't pay a coach 5 million a year. You asked how long we would wait for Ash to win 8 games. I reminded you we pay him 2 million. He SHOULD be given more time to get to 8 than Franklin. If you are cool paying 5 million for 2 million results then congrats. For me, a 5 million a year coach should be winning championships. Not hoping to beat Maryland and RU.
1) I didn't ask about RU winning eight games. Another poster did.
2) I simply said the salary is irrelevant when judging Franklin, or any PSU head coach, because any PSU head coach will receive said high salary. I have no issues with being critical of Franklin - he has by no means locked the position down long term at this point - but I think the results/salary ratio is a meaningless argument for the reasons I've outlined. I won't be happy if Penn State isn't competing for titles within the next two or three seasons, but that has nothing to do with the coach's salary. I'd be no happier if a coach making $2 million went 7-5 than I am with Franklin. My tickets cost the same, and the AD is not hurting financially because of the difference in salary. Results > value.
3) Both Franklin and Ash deserve time coming off NCAA sanctions and the Kyle Flood effect, respectively. I don't know who deserves MORE time exactly, because the situations aren't 100% comparable. What do I know is that, many times unfortunately, coaches seem to be getting less and less time to build programs. Franklin deserves 2017 and maybe 2018 before final judgment. Ash at least three years after this one.
Frankly, until Penn State officially distances itself from Joe Paterno, and everything associated with that hell, they will have a hard time getting an "A" list coach to come to Happy Valley. If a coach has other offers why would he go to where the "Joe knew" legacy is still part of the lexicon. I am not even sure a recent "A" lister, like Les Miles, would want that job.
James Franklin was an "A-list" coach at the time he was hired. In fact, a lot of the talk then was wondering how long he'd be at PSU before moving on to the NFL or elsewhere.
The Joe Paterno factor will have little to zero impact on how 99.9% of coaches view the position. The reason PSU might not be able to find an elite option if they fired Franklin this off-season is because it would show that a program that simply isn't in position to compete for titles now, is expected to compete for titles now. That's just unrealistic and a situation I have to believe a lot of guys wouldn't want to put themselves in.
That said, the roster has a lot of young talent, the job comes with tons of built-in advantages, and the money helps, of course. So who knows.
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