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$70 Million is not even a rounding error on $5.4 billion? That's 1.3% of the budget.
That's also 32% of its overall net position improvement.
Keep sticking your head in the sand.
Sorry but this is clueless. 1.3% is not material, especially for the ENTIRE AD, which will ALWAYS be in the red.

The Previous President of Rutgers doesn’t care. The people that matter, understand that Competing in the Big Ten is expensive and spending lots of money is the cost of doing business in the Big Ten.

The AD lost money last year and every previous year. Big Whoop. You’d probably find similar ratios going back in history, though it is true that the deficits are increasing significantly, year to year, due at least partially to increased travel expenses and coaching salaries.

Recruiting Travel expenses are probably a significant reason. There’s no Fieldhouse, so most of our recruits come from out of state. For the ‘24 Class, 4 out of 27 recruits came from NJ, so 23 out of 27 recruits came from out of state. It’s costs money to recruit out of state in terms of travel costs. Airfare, rental cars, hotels, it all adds up. Coaching salaries are also likely driving the increase as we have to pay more to retain good coaches.

The 2024-2025 loss could be even worse, because we started paying Schiano 6.25M, and other coaches got increases too. Though this might be offset by the revenue boost we got by Washington, USC, and UCLA joining.

At some point, soon, we will have $100M deficits because we’ll be paying players. But you know what, it won’t be a big deal, so I hope we don’t have to go through the same song and dance every year.

What matters is our net position increase by $217M, but you won’t see the Star Ledger writing a story about that.

Is there any news of hoop players for 2025 visiting?

Has the Bosnian guard committed elsewhere and if not are we getting a visit? Do you think we have to go Juco for scorers or will we have enough NIL to afford two proven four stars.

We have the basis of a winning team next if we can keep Grant and Sommerville. If Jeremiah comes back he will have a chance to start at the point. I expect Manny and Dortch to also return. I think Jordan and Jamichael need to drop down a level to be successful. If we have 4-5 coming back and with 4-5 frosh we just need two four star
portals to turn things around. If he does not, hoops will degenerate rapidly because the Rutgers fan base does not support are teams with their wallets.

We allegedly lost a couple of players we really wanted due to insufficient NIL. If Pike does not want to go around and find the money, he has to hire someone who will.

If Abe Suydam were still alive and healthy, he would have been that individual. When Tom Young went into recruits houses to sell the family on Rutgers, Abe was the individual that went with him. Abe was the salesman who sold Rutgers and Tom to the family.
So we're going to lose 2 of the top 3 players in the country, probably not get quality transfers after the season we've had, and have a very young team, and we're going to have a winning season next year - I hope I'm wrong, but I think it's doubtful.
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OT: We may win the World Cup in 2026

I remember Howard playing in high school in North Brunswick. He actually did not play goalkeeper for them. He played as a field player. They’re starting goalie ended up playing at Rutgers.

I got to train with him because we had the same goalkeeper coach back in the day and I remember watching in awe as he was able to get his hips almost parallel to the crossbar.
He was an incredible athlete, as you obviously know first hand, but getting his hips parallel to an 8' crossbar basically would've meant he had about a 5 foot vertical. The best Olympic high jumpers can barely do that (WR is 8 feet). Do you think he actually had more than a 4' vertical? Even Jordan didn't.

Is there any news of hoop players for 2025 visiting?

Lathan will have six figure offers at some SEC schools, can’t see him passing that up

I don’t know about that. The salary cap thing kicks in right? All teams will need to prioritize. Lathan isn’t good enough to get legit 3rd party deals. Not may players will get those. Only the Dylan and Ace type frosh and clear star players. An upper class kid like Geo would’ve had an opportunity maybe just through his own branding in the area over time. Latham won’t have that. He’ll get paid out of a school allotment.
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THE OFFICIAL 2024-2025 NET RANKINGS THREAD

Ah, see, that's the trick. NET has nothing to do with "body of work" - it's literally a sorting tool to try to determine "which team is better", so that wins against "better" schools and losses against "weaker" schools can be more easily seen/called out in the resume.

You can very easily have a more accomplished body of work, but a lower NET ranking. It happens all the time that higher ranked NET schools are left out because their resume is thin - and that lower ranked NET schools are selected because their resumes are strong. NET doesn't determine how worthy you are of the tournament - just how tough a team you are to play. It's your results vs. NET quadrants that matters more than your raw NET score.

Because of that, ND is scored as a better win (Q2 at neutral) than Princeton (Q3 at neutral), but Princeton is seen as a worse loss.

The argument "this team should have been selected because they have the better NET" isn't valid, because that's not what NET is for. Look at Rutgers making it in 2022 with a NET of 80 and a strong resume, but missing in 2023 with a NET of 40 and a weaker resume. If we won the rest of our games each by 1 point, we'd likely make the tournament and still have a NET no better than 45.

Yeah I get it. I personally just preferred the old way where the sorting treated the quality of your wins based on how your opponents resumes turned out overall and not based on how good those teams shoild be based on their talent and efficiency. RPI was very flawed so I understood a formula change. I dont like that the concept of good and bad has changed so drastically to the point where team like ND would barely be in the top 200 in the old system is now propped into the top 100 because of MOV. I can see factoring in MOV as some kind of close call tie breaker but anything more than that seems extreme. Being able to close out a tight game is a sign of a good team in its own right. May also be a reflection of good coaching which is a factor of the team.

Holloway


I’m not sure what people don’t understand. He coached St Peters and beat Kentucky and Purdue among others. At Seton hall he has 0 money to recruit and it shows. I’m not claiming to know exact amounts, but its pretty obvious they have no money. You dont get players without money. Fairly simple
So, is the argument that his roster at St. Peter's was better than his current roster?

That team may have beaten Kentucky and Purdue in two isolated games, but they also finished 16-11 in the regular season in the MAAC. That was a team that had a hot streak at the right moment - Cinderella of Cinderellas.

THE OFFICIAL 2024-2025 NET RANKINGS THREAD

But regardless - none of this is really relevant to my point which wasn’t which team is better but rather which team has the better body of work. Princeton has the better resume right now by a pretty wide margin. I don’t care if ND has more talent or would be favored in a game. If the season ended today, my opinion is that Princeton should be viewed by the selection committee as a higher quality win because they have the more accomplished body of work. Everything should be about results. If your opponent overachieved that should benefit you and not attempt to be normalized by efficiency predictors. Their overachievement is an accomplishment in its own right.

Ah, see, that's the trick. NET has nothing to do with "body of work" - it's literally a sorting tool to try to determine "which team is better", so that wins against "better" schools and losses against "weaker" schools can be more easily seen/called out in the resume.

You can very easily have a more accomplished body of work, but a lower NET ranking. It happens all the time that higher ranked NET schools are left out because their resume is thin - and that lower ranked NET schools are selected because their resumes are strong. NET doesn't determine how worthy you are of the tournament - just how tough a team you are to play. It's your results vs. NET quadrants that matters more than your raw NET score.

Because of that, ND is scored as a better win (Q2 at neutral) than Princeton (Q3 at neutral), but Princeton is seen as a worse loss.

The argument "this team should have been selected because they have the better NET" isn't valid, because that's not what NET is for. Look at Rutgers making it in 2022 with a NET of 80 and a strong resume, but missing in 2023 with a NET of 40 and a weaker resume. If we won the rest of our games each by 1 point, we'd likely make the tournament and still have a NET no better than 45.

Is there any news of hoop players for 2025 visiting?

Doubt it. Guys transfer down to get more PT (Reiber, Woolfolk, Simpson) at schools that don’t have much $ to give. Lathan will get enough PT here and not transfer.
It’s a different world now. BIGs can make money. He’s simply not good enough to get paid much at Rutgers because he doesn’t have a clear position. But he put up the stats needed to be very marketable in the portal.
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Shayne Van Ness

He might be spinning but very few (if any) are taking the bait. Hard to believe we are getting a guaranteed, Holy Grail, mother lode from two storied programs.
Yea 4 from PSU and 2 from Iowa one of which is a Suriano type according to this clown ...Goody can take a year off from recruiting for next year...I heard Cael might be coming too from my source lol
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Is there any news of hoop players for 2025 visiting?

He’s going to get a check somewhere. He put up the stats he needed to make it happen. Remember even Dean got 6 figures. Some team is going to pay him a decent check to be their 5. I’m guessing it will be a mid-major. I’d be surprised if Pike shells out the money he’s going to demand to keep him here. He’s not a Pike style player.
Doubt it. Guys transfer down to get more PT (Reiber, Woolfolk, Simpson) at schools that don’t have much $ to give. Lathan will get enough PT here and not transfer.
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