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Sit Dylan

Maybe he was fine while Carino was there. Maybe he tweaked the ankle again later in practice or later in the day. Anyone who has ever rolled an ankle hard like he did should know that these things can be very touchy. Also, presumably, the team doc would be the one to clear him to play/practice and if he was cleared to practice/play, then it's not Pike's fault that DH gave it a go. And if that's the case, it doesn't mean DH came out because "he didn't want to play" - it's far more likely he tried his best, but the pain was just too much and he and Pike realized it and sat him down. It is fair to ask whether it would be better for him to shut any activity down until he's healthy again.

Bottom line, though, is none of us "knows" exactly what the situation is, so making definitive statements about the situation is not justified.
please...are you being paid to write that
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Team Beats Players. . . .and Thoughts of Jay Wright

Jay Wright is 100% right. Pike got caught up making a deal with the devil when they should have been staying in his own lane. Its a mistake he will never make, one I do not think he ever will get another opportunity to have 2 of the top 10 players in one class and two he will make sure he learns his lesson

in retrospect we all should have known but got blinded by the hype. 18 year olds vs 23 year olds.
I actually don’t think this was hard to see ahead of time but I think pike kinda got stuck with mediocre recruiting and wanting to grab the brass ring with these guys. I think it would be hard to walk away from Dylan committing too. How do you not try to get him. Nobody could have predicted harp getting sick and hurt. I do believe there was the potential for some magic here if the stars aligned. In hindsight yea it didn’t work out. I think we all hope pike learns from this and goes back to his formula. We’ll see what happens. In the old world I’d say there are pieces here to build around. In the new world who the f knows.

Sit Dylan

Exactly.

SOMETHING stinks here.

In my opinion, it is Harper playing things safer than most, which is fine considering the amount of money on the line for him.

In the end, this is a moot point because he has another handful of games for us then we will be very very far in his rearview mirror with a mess to deal with.
unfortunately you are right and in two months he is gone and never coming back and Pike has a mess to rebuild the program back from a third straight ncaa miss

Sit Dylan

Why is he practicing if he is hurt?
i think alot of collusion between Pike, Harper handlers and Carino...they want to portray he is all ready to go

there is no way a player recovers that quick from an ankle injury like Harper suffered at Penn State, is 100% to go at practice and then lame for the game the next day

The RU messaging has been brutal this year now 2x with Dylan and it really stinks

Team Beats Players. . . .and Thoughts of Jay Wright

Jay Wright is 100% right. Pike got caught up making a deal with the devil when they should have been staying in his own lane. Its a mistake he will never make, one I do not think he ever will get another opportunity to have 2 of the top 10 players in one class and two he will make sure he learns his lesson

in retrospect we all should have known but got blinded by the hype. 18 year olds vs 23 year olds.

Pikell Just Sucks

Exactly. Houston is the best example of a team that mainly has a core of developed players who were recruited by Kelvin Sampson with transfers to add more depth to the team. That is the type of team Pike has tried to build in the past, but he has not been able to maximize the talent on the roster, especially when it comes to game-day coaching.

In today's day in age, you definitely CAN still win with underrecruited players and transfers that aren't in the let's say, Top 30 transfers in the portal for a given season. It just puts more emphasis on knowing how to use your NIL wisely (retention with some transfers to supplement the roster) and building a great team vision/culture that will convince players to stay for multiple years. Otherwise, you need a coach that's ELITE in multiple crucial components of coaching (recruiting, talent evaluation, gameday coaching, etc.)

Looking at a team like Houston, LJ Cryer was a highly ranked transfer in the portal when he transferred from Baylor. However, Kelvin Sampson has recruited players like J'Wan Roberts (outside the Top 200 in his high school class), Emanuel Sharp (outside the top 100 in his class, ranked relatively closely to the likes of Sommerville, Grant, Dortch) have stayed at Houston for multiple years and have developed into very good players. He also got Milos Uzan from the portal (#45 transfer in this year's class from Oklahoma)

Long story short, Pike CAN win with underrecruited players and transfers that aren't necessarily top targets in the portal. The last few seasons, however, he hasn't done a good job maintaining his team's vision to retain the top talent on RU and MAXIMIZE IT --- it seems like since Geo, Ron, Caleb, etc. have left, the program has still been in transition and trying to find the team's old identity.
I think the best example is probably Purdue, no? Full of non-elite recruits and I think Lance Jones is the only transfer in the last two years. You can do it, but it is objectively much harder and Pike is no Painter.

This is probably massive cope, but Myles Johnson’s comments about the difficultly of learning Pike’s ball screen coverages. I think Sommerville, Grant and Nwuli could form a decent group in a couple years, but it would take some retention and some higher-caliber guards in the program.

Sit Dylan

Our chances to compete and make noise in the B1G tournament (and we can) rest with Dylan being an energetic 110 percent…period end.
For those who believe Dylan playing at the percentage he is currently is still best for that goal are incorrect.
Sit him out and practice your rotations without him, no speculating no game time decisions.
He’s out until he’s big time ready

GAME 20 MICHIGAN STATE: Overmatched

Will this be the shortest recap this year..yup. Not much to say. Bac has just been beaten down with the losing and failure of the season as a whole. Team overmatched right on down the line without a healthy Dylan. Despite RU playing it close in the first half and being down only 47-43 in the 2nd half before the bottom dropped out and despite a fantastic individual shooting effort by Jordan Dercack was never really a threat to win this game. Michigan State played a D level game and did just enough at times to build a cushion as Izzo pulled from this deep bench to wear Rutgers down. I felt like this was a game from the 90s under Wenzel or Bannon when RU would hang around and play a spirited effort by a top 25 Big East program but never getting over the hump. This time I knew not to get sucked in early and had no confidence Rutgers was even capable of making a legitimate push to do what they would need to do to winthis game. In the first half, Rutgers somehow played a C level game yet only down 3 at half. I am sure Izzo wasnt pleased. I will give RU alot of credit. They played pretty good D in the 1st clogging up the paint and forcing MSU into take a lot of outside shots and they are not a good outside shooting team. I thought MSU fell into the trap too easy and it wasnt until a few minutes into the 2nd half where they became a bit more patient with their offense.

Jordan Dercack went from DNP to team leader and sharpshooter tonight. He solely brought RU back into the game in the first half with a couple of finishing with 11 in the 1st half and the only player to step up for an ineffective and hobbled Harper. Jordan would go quiet for a bit but was instrumental in at least making Sparty work for it late, putting up 12 points in the final 3 minutes. Big props to him for being next man up with Dylan out. 7-11 fg, 26 points, 8-9ft, 4 boards and 2 steals, game of his life, Jordan was arguably the best player on the court tonight on either teams. Amazing case of resilience by a player that took a lot of heat on these boards and even fell out of favor with Coach Pikiell. With Harper likely to still be dogged by his ankle injury, JD will get more minutes going forward and while no one can expect anything close to what he gave tonight. He was the one true positive in a day full of misfortune.

For starters, I hate giving up a home conference game. Rutgers should not do it. To me its distracting at this point in the season. The showing of 17K is fantastic. Alot of people at the game who do not normally get to the RAC ever got a chance for a day out. Just do it in December in a non conference game. For die hards and those who live by wins and losses as a barometer, it was not all that fun. Alot of gloss for a program that still hasnt been able to walk the walk yet. And I said this after the win over Michigan State 2 years ago, so I am consistent here. I know some vehemently disagree with me but I am not changing my opinion here...and no RU probably does not win this game at the RAC but "for me" the experience and atmosphere would have been better. I get for many who attended today they would disagree.

Dylan Harper should not be playing if not 100% or even 75%. 6 points, 2-4 fg, 2-4 ft in 13 minutes. Knew trouble was ahead when he did not start but quickly got removed after starting the 2nd half never to return. He was below 50% and this was the 2nd time this year this happened (Wisconsin game). He shouldnt be travelling to Northwestern like he did vs Indiana if he is in fragile game time decision shape. He tried gutting it out but I am not questioning his desire. Its whether he helps or hurts team. It was obvious he was struggling mightily. It alters the whole RU strategy to be playing 5 on 4 and makes defending RU much easier. Harper may want to be out there but Pike is the coach and he needs to make the call here and not Dylan. Its some really bad luck that such a talented kid is going through two ridiculous stretches of the season where he cannot get on the court. Need to do this right and get him 100% if RU wants to salvage the season later in the year.

As for the game, as a I said I never got the feeling RU could win here and eventually Izzo would lay the knockout blow. If you want to name a big turning point of the game, it likely would be the missed J Will ridiculously attempted dipsy do which resulted in a transition wide open corner 3 by Akens. MSU would add another basket to go up 54-44 and Pike was forced to call timeout. Rutgers lost touch and eventually got down by 13 and while they did chip away late, Michigan State still had enough safe cushion throughout despite some late Rutgers shooting herorics from JD and Dylan Grant who tossed in 2 late. Credit Rutgers because they could have tossed in the towel and lost by 20. The peformance was not great overall by most but no one could question the effort. They played hard and they wanted to win, the reality is they just are not very good collectively. Ace had an off night shooting 4-17 fg 8-8 at the line, 9 boards on a night Rutgers would need him to repeat his Penn State performance. Dylan Grant did show some late pulse with 9 points but for much of the game was not a factor. Lathan struggled to get anything going and inexplicably taking two 3 point shots. J Will biggest disappointment of the season with a measly 4 points on 2-5 fg shooting and 4 boards. Acuff hit a 3 early and then went into witness protection. Martini was abysmal missing all 5 of his 3s. JMike and PJ gave nothing. Dortsch redshirt burned 20 games into the season for 3 minutes makes my head spin.

Was today as bad as it could have been given the circumstances of no EO and basically no Dylan? Nope. RU was lucky a bit that Michigan State really was not on their game. 15 turnovers many of them unforced had to drive Izzo up the wall. Akens shooting a hideous 3-15 including just 1-10 in the first half. Shocked that 50 of MSU's 81 points came from off the bench. Izzo had to work to make some adjustments in the 2nd half to fend off a feisty RU effort. What I am impressed by Michigan State is their depth. Izzo has a lot of tools in the toolbox and that is what they may be a tough out in the NCAA tourney. For Rutgers to lose by 7 on national tv CBS to the #8 team is not the worst thing in the world. The effort was certainly far better than losses to Purdue, Ohio State and Kennessaw State. 10-10 I hope some finally give up their hopes of this team going on a run. Its not happening with a hurt Dylan and its beyond too late to happen with a healty Dylan. Where that leaves how Rutgers fans should approach the next 11 games I cannot say it. For me apathy is setting in a bit but I have accepted the programs fate a few weeks ago but for other they still may be in a denial, bargainning or anger stage. Today was nothing to be ashamed of but it really is no longer about one particular game. This is about the season. How can it not be? Its a sad sad situation and its gettin more and more absurd.
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