I’m not sure what people don’t understand. He coached St Peters and beat Kentucky and Purdue among others. At Seton hall he has 0 money to recruit and it shows. I’m not claiming to know exact amounts, but its pretty obvious they have no money. You dont get players without money. Fairly simple

PSAL_Hoops said:

Take a closer look. I don’t think Princeton is good but compared to ND they are. You entirely going by brand names. The very quad system you are preaching sorts most of Princeton’s opponents fairly similarly to NDs. Both teams are 6-0 vs Q4. Again - Princeton is 4-3 vs Q3 while ND is 1-3. Princeton is 2-1 vs Q2 while ND is 1-3. Your right - ND went 0-4 vs Q1 while Princeton didn’t play any Q1s. So basically what your saying is getting blown out once, and losing by 11, 9 and 4 to top teams is not only better than going 3-0 vs Q3 instead, but it’s so much better that it even makes up for having a 2-6 record vs Q2-Q3 compared to Princeton’s 6-4 record.

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Sorts them fairly similarly?

Notre Dame's opponents in the NET Top 100
2 - @Duke (8 pt loss)
3 - (n)Houston (11 pt loss)
27 - @Georgia (21 pt loss)
38 - UNC (1 pt loss)
40 - (n)Creighton (4 pt loss)
79 - @Georgetown (21 pt win)
83 - (n)Rutgers (1 pt loss)

Princeton's opponents in the NET Top 100
83 - (n)Rutgers (1 pt win)
86 - @St. Joseph's (8 pt win)

Meanwhile, at the bottom of their respective lists...

Notre Dame's opponents ranked 250+
272 - Stonehill (29 pt win)
289 - North Dakota (17 pt win)
333 - Buffalo (9 pt win)
338 - Le Moyne (27 pt win)

Princeton's opponents ranked 250+
269 - Harvard (4 pt win)
278 - Dartmouth (1 pt win)
284 - Monmouth (4 pt win)
291 - Iona (1 pt win)
319 - Portland (27 pt win)

Princeton has been in 4 life-and-death battles with teams rated 250-300.

Notre Dame has a worse record but is a stronger team. Heads up on a neutral floor, it'd likely be Notre Dame (-5.5), Princeton (+5.5).

And looking ahead.... Notre Dame has 7 more NET Top 100 teams to play, and Princeton has 2. The ACC may be down, but it's still a lot stronger conference than the Ivy.

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Shelby65 said:

Yeah, 4s aren’t a thing anymore in high major ball. It’s all shooters, distributors and 5s. And since he can’t defend, he doesn’t have much upside beyond what you already see. I don’t think he’s going anywhere.

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He’s going to get a check somewhere. He put up the stats he needed to make it happen. Remember even Dean got 6 figures. Some team is going to pay him a decent check to be their 5. I’m guessing it will be a mid-major. I’d be surprised if Pike shells out the money he’s going to demand to keep him here. He’s not a Pike style player.

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RUChoppin said:

Princeton has virtually no body of work. They have two decent wins over Rutgers and St. Joe's, and just 3 Q2 games (zero Q1 games). They've lost to Wright State, Texas State, Furman, and Loyola-Chicago. They've also won nail biters against really bad Harvard, Dartmouth, Iona, Northeastern, and Monmouth teams. They have a 4-3 Q3 record.

Notre Dame won all their games against bad teams comfortably. They only have one decent win (Georgetown), but have faced 5 Q1 and 3 Q2 teams.

Neither team is very good - but I wouldn't say Princeton was the tougher team. On a neutral court, I'd rather face Princeton again than Notre Dame again.

And pretty much every metric other than RPI agrees.... and RPI has Princeton at 68 (just no) and Notre Dame at 183 (also no).

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Take a closer look. I don’t think Princeton is good but compared to ND they are. Your entirely going by brand names as the very quad system you are preaching sorts most of Princeton’s opponents fairly similarly to NDs ( ACC stinks). Both teams are 6-0 vs Q4. Again - Princeton is 4-3 vs Q3 while ND is 1-3. Princeton is 2-1 vs Q2 while ND is 1-3. Your right - ND went 0-4 vs Q1 while Princeton didn’t play any Q1s. So basically what your saying is getting blown out once, and losing by 11, 9 and 4 to top teams is not only better than going 3-0 vs Q3 instead, but it’s so much better that it even makes up for having a 2-6 record vs Q2-Q3 compared to Princeton’s 6-4 record.

Hope Dylan is 100% and Ace plays composed--anything less and this game could be ugly.

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e5fdny said:

Wasn’t one of Tim Howard’s best attributes his overall athleticism? I remember reading how he would have been a major level talent in whatever he chose.

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I remember Howard playing in high school in North Brunswick. He actually did not play goalkeeper for them. He played as a field player. They’re starting goalie ended up playing at Rutgers.

I got to train with him because we had the same goalkeeper coach back in the day and I remember watching in awe as he was able to get his hips almost parallel to the crossbar.

Last year our so cold home game at the garden welcomed Michigan band and cheerleaders. I better not see any of that nonsense this year

DHajekRC84 said:

sorry, as usual you're completely either missing the point or purposely putting your head in the sand. Being a loss leader and eating 50% to the tune of $70 million are two completely different things and you know that. I bet 100% YOU don't manage your finances that way. Then again perhaps you're one of those people who don't care if the car depreciates 25% the day you drive it off the lot.

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Once again, you’re frightened because you don’t understand the way things work and lack financial context. Athletic Department economics are different from your home economics and the fact that you would try to equate the two shows you are out of your depth, here. The Athletic Department revenue is never going to match the Athletic expenses. Too many sports lose money hand over fist. Competing in the Big Ten takes a great deal of resources and that’s why the AD will always lose money.
There will always be a difference and Rutgers will make it up. The President is on record saying so.

At others schools like Michigan, Penn State, and Ohio State, Football is a Cash Cow and subsidizes the entire Athletic Department. At Rutgers, Football is a loss leader because our revenue base is too small.

Nevertheless, A 70 million dollar loss from the Rutgers Athletics Budget out of a 5.4 Billion Dollar Rutgers budget isn’t even a rounding error. So your concern is quite frankly laughable, and ultimately the loss is a nothing burger.

And Guess what, Rutgers actually improved its Overall Net Position by $217M. This Total Revenue - Total Expenses, for the University.

So you and everyone else need to chill out. Sargeant wrote an article to get clicks and he got clicks. Here’s Rutgers Financial Statements for last year.

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Go Rutgers!

KidDagger said:

Illinois slightly favored.. tons of tossups, would be awesome if we could pull out this win.. would need a total team effort. Wonder if we will have Barbosa going at 165 for this match.

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Does he still have his redshirt available? Or is he over limit

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cm_13 said:

Lathan may have been a 4 like 10 years ago, he’s not now.

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Yeah, 4s aren’t a thing anymore in high major ball. It’s all shooters, distributors and 5s. And since he can’t defend, he doesn’t have much upside beyond what you already see. I don’t think he’s going anywhere.