JoJo Aragona now up to #10 Pound for Pound best HS wrestler.
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And 5th in the senior class. That’s a big time recruit. Never seen him wrestle, but on paper he is good.
Aggressive, very talented on his feet. Good on bottom. Will need to improve turns on top in college. Only match I have seen him get solidly beaten was against Ryan Anderson (a year or two ago) who is pretty phenomenal.
Not really, that’s why there are way more falls in HS than college because lesser skilled guys get turned more easily. I meant that JoJo has shown good skills on bottom against elite HS guys who are consider excellent riders/turners like Keegan O’Toole at Who’s #1. But, I said good rather than great because even elite HS guys tend to struggle a bit early on from the bottom position in college.
Is Ryan Anderson the one who was close to coming here? If so, where did he wind up committing?
Seems like a really good kid, smart in interviews but didn’t qualify academically for RU, I think. Would have loved to have him.
Ashame on someone for not finding a way for him. Don’t tell me he’s less qualified then some of the FB and BB kids that get in. And that’s not a shot at anyone, just the reality.
If we want to compete against the big boys we need to find a way. I know 100% for a fact (bc I know 2 kids right now very close to me) that Cornell tells kids if they can get 1100 on SAT and 3.0 gpa they will find a way to get them admitted.
He was nowhere near that as we could not guarantee him he could get in so he took the school that would get him i, therefore Iowa State
Cornell gets their wrestlers into School of Agriculture . I don"t think they are "Ivy League" students (Admission standards) . Look at their roster.
Years ago Long time Drexel coach Jack Childs told a story how he had to tell a top recruit his SAT was too low to be accepted to Drexel and the recruit said thats ok Coach I was just accepted to Cornell
We went through this before and it's been confirmed Rutgers no longer accepts the NCAA minimum requirements for athletes, ISU apparently does. Rutgers has raised their standards. Just another item in a long line of self-inflicted wounds by our Administration. I buy 9 season tickets to wrestling to watch wrestling. Not English class.
Cornell also enrolls HS grads| pre Cornell , into Finger Lakes CC. Would probably be ranked top 20 if they could wrestle D1 and enter the NCAA tournament.
Do we know if those standards have changed for all sports ir just the Olympic Sports bc I cant see us competing (not that we really are anyway in FB and BB a little better) having higher standards.
Has to be across the board but I don't know for sure. A liberal University being selective? No way, plus they would open themselves up to all types of discrimination lawsuits. How could you say, O you play football or basketball then you need a 880 SAT for admittance, but sorry you wrestle you need a 1000 SAT. They had to have raised their sliding scale as SAT or Act score required is correlated to GPA.
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I didn't know this. What a bunch of BS... Is this the reason why our football team sucks so badly, that I no longer watch it?
So far you have been on your own island on this thought. Based on the body of work and consistent production of AA, he is as solid as they come. NS sure has the ability to become that and more, but he needs to put in the time. Look at it this way, would you say Spencer Lee is the best ever at Iowa?
Pretty sure football accepts the minimum out of HS but until recently we handicapped ourselves with the phys ed requirement from juco. Can anyone confirm?
Im happy knowing I have my own island.
That said, AA has a great career at Rutgers but one cannot claim to be the top wrestler in the schools history when someone has a better track record. Taking 2nd at ncaa's on a bad knee is all thats required to make the claim best wrestler Rutgers has ever had. We can all talk about potentials and its not far fetched NS could have been a 2x champ if not for injuries and he still has 2 more seasons to go. Can that be said about AA? Can anyone in Rutgers history say they had an equal or better finish than #2 in ncaa's? Heck, nobody has ever made the finals before or even been ranked #1 in my memory
Now its very possible AA is the 149 champ this season, I hope he is. Should NS not do the same, Id give much more consideration to your point of view...
I dont see the argument today, but youre welcome to your opinion.
The HS of RU commit Connor O'Neill (DePaul) is entered in this weekend's Powerade Tournament in Pa.. Hopefully we get to see him wrestle on Flowrestling. O'Neill finished second in last weeks Beast of the East. I imagine his ranking will be rising in the next ranking.
I’m still confused by this logic. So because he got to the finals once with a bad knee that automatically qualifies his as the GOAT? By your logic Sandy Koufax is the most accomplished pitcher in MLB history.
3 time AA, 2 time B1G champion, 2 time semi finalist, 100 career wins. Suriano is a 1 time AA and got 1 match further than Ashnault once. That’s it. He’s never placed top 4 in the B1G. Yes, injury is the reason but the fact is Ashnault has 2 conference championships. You think Suriano is the better talent? I get it. But no way Suriano has a bigger body of work at RU than Ashnault and to say otherwise is an insult to Anthony. Suriano lost in the finals so he doesn’t even have the “first RU national champion” title yet. Hopefully it hapoens this season.
They are both extremely talented wrestlers and I would love for both to get that crown this season and I’ll be there live to see it. Like I said earlier, if Nick wins back to back titles he’s RUs GOAT. But it hasn’t happened yet.
I think it’s fair to say whoever finished highest at nationals is the best wrestler in a school’s history. Right now, that’s NS for RU. If there’s a tie, you can look at body of work to make that determination. So no, Lee is not the best wrestler in Iowa history because there are others who also placed 1st with better bodies of work.
Yea I just edited my post I should have put in there that really I'm not sure if it's across the board. However, it would be strange if you handicapped some sports but gave others the benefit.
Also with the JUCO's they had to change their academic requirements while there. For instance all SEC and Big 12 schools would accept credits for basket weaving while others wouldn't. So the NCAA changed what they must take to be eligible, which has made it easier for Rutgers to accept JUCO's.
Considering how lenient we are with guys who are facing assault charges/committed assault, it’s actually nice to see some place the wrestling team applies high standards.
Ridiculous comment on an issue that has already been addressed. Let it go. You are out of line here.
People are complaining about an academic institution having more than the bare minimum academic requirements for atheletes and it’s out of line to point out the standards that are in place to accommodate athletes? K.
Or, a student who happens to be an athlete and a wrestler has a pending legal issue that I’ll bet other students who are not athletes have and are facing as well. I know when I was in school kids got into fights pretty regularly. The student wrestler is working through the legal system and will be disciplined or exonerated by both the courts and the University once a ruling occurs. Is that correct? Do you have some new information that wasn’t covered when this was discussed previously? If so, does this show the kid being given preferential treatment by the team or university? People generally aren’t summarily fired from their jobs for getting arrested (depending on the charge). If no, then there was no point in bringing it up.
On the distinctly separate topic of whether academic standards should be lowered to the bare minimum required for a really exceptional athlete or someone with other circumstances that may ultimately benefit the institution, that is a trickier question and in my mind should be less standardized and evaluated on a case by case (it sort of is) basis. Sadly, in Anderson’s case he seems like a very bright (check out his interviews on Flo) kid who just is kind of quirky/beats to his drummer and may not flourish in a traditional academic setting. This is clearly just speculation on my part.
For me, the GOAT is the person with the greatest body of work, which rn would be Ash. I can also see GOAT as whoever was the greatest at their peak, which rn would be Suriano’s 2nd place season.
My feeling if others are allowing the NCAA minimum and clearly they are as ISU said they can get him in, then you're only handicapping yourself and making it that much harder to compete. We just lost a potential AA because someone felt our standards should be higher.
Who this is or what they know about wrestling or even athletics for that matter is unknown. I'll tell you this, I'm up to 9 season tickets because we're decent, start sucking and those 9 season tickets and athletic donations disappear. This decision looks like it has Barchi's finger prints all over it but I can't be certain.
They have something special going as many programs even in the B1G draw flies. We have 2 extras and every match we can find two friends who want to attend, they haven't gone unused for three years now. Football extras went unused and are being dropped along with most of our season ticket group. I just don't understand why you would voluntarily handicap yourself? It's an idiotic decision but par for the course from the Administration and BOG.
you support the program... that's great!! But the second u hear an internet rumor, u threaten to hop off the bandwagon!! If you're gonna support a program.. Grow a pair and be ready to support it through good times, and bad!! I was one of those less than 50 people in the barn 12 years ago!! I've seen this program GROW into what it is today!! There's still a long way to go, but there's a vision and a hunger to get there!! Too many times we complain about who we are not.. Instead of supporting who we are!! Yes... Its not easy being a football fan of this school right now...There are many question marks... But I do have reason for hope after seeing the 2nd half of this season!!
Grow a pair? Seriously? Whoa back up! I said we were dropping our extra tickets for football and many of our season ticket group is out. I never said I was dropping my football season tickets. Internet rumor? WTF are you talking about? I didn't attack the wrestling program yet those in the Administration. You want to attack me personally fine, do me a favor don't ever reply to most posts again and I'll do the same for you.
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