Yes. Very much so. I thought it was close to impossible.
Also, Northwestern is investing aggressively in facilities upgrades and they are in the third largest media market. The Big Ten also values academics, and it would like a hypocrite if it kicked out Northwestern. It would also be a sad day for college football if that was alllowed to happen.
Wouldn't mind that that all, but it would have to be all sports and not some "football carveout". The Irish can decide if that is for them or not. Bottom line is that unlike the others the Irish can dictate their future.
We were 9 and 4 in 2009, 2011, and 2012. That's good. Just not elite.
Your not seriously comparing those 9-4 records with Northwestern’s 10-3 or 9-5 are you?
Data don't support that.
Not saying this ain’t true but Swaim just throws stuff up at the wall to keep his followers interested. Where is Louisvilles landing spot? All other schools seem to believe they have places in B1G or SEC.
They’re saying B12 but apparently the guy who posted throws stuff at the wall
Because every King needs his peasants. They need someone to play and even though you don't want to believe it, the B1G is more than just football. Ohio St. has no problem making the playoffs now, they didn't even need to win the conference. Why would they need a tougher schedule when the playoffs are going to 12? No one in the B1G is in danger of getting relegated to obscurity.
Exactly. Many fans don't get that the kings of the money conferences (OSU/Michigan in the B1G, Bama in the SEC) need schools like Vandy or Indiana as jobbers and don't want only heavyweights in their conferences. There are a place and value for the lower level power conference teams. OSU/Michigan doesn't want to go 7-5 every year due to playing Murderer's Row.
Pitt will end up in the Big 12 with Louisville, WVU, and Cincy IMO. Cuse/BC/Wake are doomed 5 ways to Sunday though.
Am guessing Down years for UConn ? USF ? I wouldn’t call that good. That’s mediocre in the big picture.
There's zero chance Pitt, Louisville, and ND are in that league of misfits. GT probably gets out of that as well. As for the rest, have fun.
Agreed. I want Greg to succeed, but hope Pat has a list of replacements on speed dial. Dan Mullen should be on that list.
They will be kicked out because 15 schools don’t want to share revenue with someone that doesn’t bring anything to the conference.
I remember when we felt this pain and Pitt, Syracuse and BC fans told us buh-bye. Glass houses can be fragile.
I don’t why someone can’t be a fan and at the same time look at things objectively. Does a fan have to provide biased opinions?
I want Greg to succeed too, and I have nothing against Dan Mullen, but I feel like last year was a unique opportunity with both Fickell and Rhule available, both of whom I think could come here and win relatively quickly, and I just don’t know that kind of talent will be available in the future if we decide Greg is not the guy.
I don’t understand the Northwestern hate. They have been much more relevant than us and several other schools in the conference in football, and their basketball program is also improving. And even though they are a relatively smaller school, they have a rich alumni base with massive resources, the have the largest endowment in the BIG at over $16 billion.
They just got this done in 2018:
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The general fatal flaw of humans is on full display... The capacity for greed knows no bounds and will eventually destroy the sacred of all things... 😂😂😂
I have nothing against Fickell or Rhule, but I feel that last year would have been too soon to make a decision on a new coach. I'm not sure Fickell would have been a good fit, and not sure Rhule would come here. Not sure anyone would have come here if RU had made a decision after only 3 years. I still fully support Greg, but as stated previously, he needs to show progress this year, and not progress over 1-8 in conference. Talent will be available in the future. The question is whether we will be able to hire that talent and pay the price for that talent.
Being critical is one thing, but some people are negative about every post. It's like they enjoy it when Rutgers fails. AshCatchEm is Mr. Negative and he has plenty of company. They hijack threads all the time just to create problems. It takes away from real discussions. Several good posters refuse to engage on the forum because of the BS. The quality of the board is dropping due to trolls and haters.
I agree it was too early and that Greg deserves more time, I am just doubtful the same quality of replacements will be available if we do make a change in a couple of years.
And only if ND is ready to give up football independence. Otherwise I could see the Big East taking ND back as well. ND will always have options.
