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Conference tourneys do not matter

Rutgers out
Penn State 10
Texas A&M 7
Nevada in as 11

very little change on the top 6 lines from going into the tourney. Miami still on the 5 line.

Nc State 11 seed above Dayton

thought this was the case last year but not its pretty much confirmed.
Not a particularly interesting hot take. It could matter, depending on circumstances. Penn State didn't win the conference Tournament. If they had, probably would have been 7.
 
I see now you are coming around to see things clearly now.

This was a hose job from the beginning. Time to remember each and every time I kept saying to stop making injury excuses instead of reworking the rotation and to stop scheduling mid level, no-name OOC games and we'll be on the same page.

These brackets were decided 2 weeks ago, nothing changed in the last week to 10 days. It's a scam by the NCAA selling conference tournaments and tickets for the leagues. Eventually, fans are going to figure it out and tune out these things if it keeps happening.
 
I think Penn State's success in the B1G Ten Tournament moved them ahead of Rutgers.I also doubt the NCAA wanted to give the B1G Ten nine teams in the tournament.
 
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Rutgers out
Penn State 10
Texas A&M 7
Nevada in as 11

very little change on the top 6 lines from going into the tourney. Miami still on the 5 line.

Nc State 11 seed above Dayton

thought this was the case last year but not its pretty much confirmed.

+100% my take As well

If so …cancel the league tournaments …

When the committee considered what you did in the last third of the season with heavy weight on the selection process , the confrnce tournament was huge . I didn’t see one major reward for good okay there

I hate PSU, but they best three ncaa teams in the field and lost a close game to Purdue and it didn’t mkre the needle for them

When the last ten games matters …thar big ten tourney woukd have make them a 6 seed

If the league toruments really don’t matter, just play 2 games this week and let the regular season champ get the bid …
 
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Remember the year after Maryland won the title in the early 2000, they were considered a bubble team …then they won three games and three days and got a 4 or 5 seed

If they did that today …10 seed
 
Remember SHU winning the Big East with Whitehead in 2015… their “reward“ was a 6 seed and a matchup with an underseeded Gonzaga.

There’s never any rhyme or reason to these decisions, because it’s all subjective and the committee is always changing.

All teams can really do is to have the committee have as few reasons as possible to use against you.

I was on the receiving end of a college soccer NCAA snub in the 1980s… it sucks. It all comes down to making it as hard as possible for them to leave you out. Because if they want to for whatever reason, they‘ll come up with some sort of excuse to justify it.
 
I think Penn State's success in the B1G Ten Tournament moved them ahead of Rutgers.I also doubt the NCAA wanted to give the B1G Ten nine teams in the tournament.
I think this is spot on. So the conference tourney mattered here. If there was no conference tourney we probably would have been in.
 
Rutgers out
Penn State 10
Texas A&M 7
Nevada in as 11

very little change on the top 6 lines from going into the tourney. Miami still on the 5 line.

Nc State 11 seed above Dayton

thought this was the case last year but not its pretty much confirmed.

Committee is too lazy and stupid for conference tournaments to matter.

Would make them do more work and use their brains a bit more.
 
so if we beat purdue we were still going to be out? as bad as it is now ; the ncaa would have had more egg on its face . just get rid of the tourneys then. it’s a money grab just like everything else the ncaa does
 
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Committee is too lazy and stupid for conference tournaments to matter.

Would make them do more work and use their brains a bit more.
they go into the selection process with the last teams they want to select and write a narrative around those teams. it should be the other way around. you should have a specific criteria and use it to select and compare the teams. It’s a joke when pretty much every bracketlogist has us in and the only one they get wrong is us
 
Would we have gotten in if we beat Purdue?

Im actually not convinced

From the ncaa guy comments we weren't the same team

Did our play vs Purdue matter to this eye test they put on us?

What about absolute beatdown Nc state and Pitt suffered

Nc st lost a third game to clemson all by double digits and were still a 11

Nevada loss didnt effect them

Penn State was in the field pretty even with Rutgers when the tourney started..amassing 3 wins vs ncaa teams didnt move them that much considered all of those teams on 9 and 10 line did very little
 
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Rutgers out
Penn State 10
Texas A&M 7
Nevada in as 11

very little change on the top 6 lines from going into the tourney. Miami still on the 5 line.

Nc State 11 seed above Dayton

thought this was the case last year but not its pretty much confirmed.
Even worse they must not even watch the games. Committee chair cites that RU had an unfortunate injury and we had enough games to evaluate after the injury and they weren’t the same team. That part we can get some agreement . But obviously the Committee did not watch us against Michigan and Purdue. Pike makes a crucial decision to start Derek and not only does it inject offense into the team but we get our swagger back and look like a different team.

We are on a neutral court and we beat a real team , Michigan , who every one had a bubble team coming into the game and we not only win but win by double digits and probably break a record defensively holding Michigan to 1 Fg for 19 of the first 20 minutes of the second half.

Then we take an early lead against a Purdue , not many people did that in their 35 games , 1 point game at half , and go toe to toe to the final whistle losing by 5 to a team the Committee decided was the # 1 seed. It was clear to anyone watching , we got our swagger back , we lost because our miss layups and free throws not what Purdue did , and we finally looked like the pre Mag team or a team that finally adjusted to losing a player and anyone would say “They look like a tourney team . The Committee chair cites that as the main reason and they do not even do their job. It is disgusting.

It has nothing to do with Quad 1 /2 wins , we had plenty for inclusion , even without OSU , it had little to do with non conference schedule directly only indirectly. After Mag we lost to Minnesota on the miracle and lost 3 home games to Nebraska , Michigan and Northwestern at home , a place we hardly ever lose and probably the biggest factor in their mind that we are not the same team if we have lost 3 straight RAC games . So if we weren’t 2-6 post MAG and beat Minnesota and won at least 1 of the home games we would have been 4-4 and then they couldn’t use that as an excuse or reason to keep us out. They conveniently ignored the 2 wins were road wins , Wisconsin and Penn State , teams that were on the bubble and desparately needed those wins and we beat Wisconsin without Caleb. . What selective bullshit they pulled.

They seemed to ignore the Temple loss and not hold it against us and even ignored Seton Hall loss as they should have but not our final 2-6 forgetting about the tourney games and to watch them. All the work has to be in the regular season.
But to not watch the BIG 10 tourney at all when they say they first meet on Wednesday , where they obviously came to that point saying Rutgers is not the same , but then supposedly watched Thursday and Friday before setting the field on Saturday. How could they not watch and come to the conclusion that the entire BIG 10 had come to , Rutgers swagger is back and they can do damage in the tourney or Painter saying that is clearly an NCAA team. “.

Back to the out of conference. , it would have meant zero without the 2-6 down the stretch. But because the 2-6 down the stretch , if we had a better win than Wake Forest # 90 NET even though by 24 , which was totally ignored , but had only 2 Quad 4 games instead of 7 , and beaten Miami we might have gotten in. That is why playing in a holiday tournament and winning should be part of the schedule to give us some wiggle room if we falter in conference like with Minnesota. Not playing tougher OOC in tourneys on neutral sites places us in the 9-11 seed lines every year and not in the 6-8 range to be safe on Selection Sunday. So indirectly OOC scheduling matters for seeding and to give us breathing room.

Regardless , this is like the biggest screw job ever. We were on 101/105 brackets on Bracketmatrix at 96.5 % of the brackets . No team on 95% of the brackets since they starting doing this has ever been left off. Clearly the Committee screwed us royally. The Ultimate RU Screw.
 
The committee didn’t watch and its bs.
For him to mention injuries as a reason we were left out. Uh hello, did you watch the last two games? We clearly figured it out by the end
 
Rutgers out
Penn State 10
Texas A&M 7
Nevada in as 11

very little change on the top 6 lines from going into the tourney. Miami still on the 5 line.

Nc State 11 seed above Dayton

thought this was the case last year but not its pretty much confirmed.
They only matter to add to the win column and or get auto bid. Beyond that, its just additional entertainment. Pretty clear Rutgers fate was decided after Minny and NW losses.
 
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