So do people think the "someone from RU athletics on the phone" actually passes this stuff along to Hobbs ... or even talks to Hobbs?
Email Hobbs and Baumgartner regarding Battle of the Bronx
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So do people think the "someone from RU athletics on the phone" actually passes this stuff along to Hobbs ... or even talks to Hobbs?
Yes, why not. Why would he lie to a long time ticket holder? Conspiracy theorist much? Please remove the tin foil hat when posting.
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I would expect Hobbs to be as much "on the ball" as Pernetti was.... not comparing in anyway, but the one time
I emailed him about an issue, he took care of it
Because I've been that guy in other situations and I basically said the same thing ... without ever actually passing the information along. Because that's why you have a "some RU athletics guy" and not Hobbs taking the call.
I have a problem with my Dodge Durango ... maybe I'll call the hotline and ask them to grab Sergio Marchionne's ear.
If you speak directly to him on phone or email, sure. But that's not what we're talking about above.
Meanwhile as he was taking care of your issue we had a basketball coach throwing balls and slurs at our players.
I have the man's name (not some random unidentified person) and intend to follow up with him. I will also follow up with Hobbs if I feel the message is not received. If you read my post you would see I have other business with the department that they contacted me about unrelated to tickets. Further I also have Dodge myself and if I had a problem with my Challenger and did not get satisfaction you can rest assured I would keep going up the chain, even as far as the CEO to get results. You appear to give up to easily.
Not a fair comparison. Sergio has his hands full dealing with being overtaken by Red Bull while still lagging far behind Mercedes in the F1 championship. By comparison, Hobbs has all day to consider fan complaints.
So get off your sheep and start a poll!
Afghanistan, Yankee Stadium: what's the difference?
Not a Rutgers or Maryland person but fan reactions like this thread are puzzling and seem to be a small part of what holds back your brand and growth IMO.
This isn't about the fan experience so much as the notoriety the school and football program receives.
As previously mentioned what other attention would a home or away Rutgers vs. Maryland game game nationally?
I guess in my opinion as an outsider you guys are thinking small time and frankly a little bit selfishly about this. Embrace it and run with this sucker.
sure Yankee Stadium isn't ideal for watching a game and you can't sit with all your buddies like you do at home games but that's pretty short-sighted in my opinion
Hawk, we have played there three times already in less than a decade. Those games, including the ND game did nothing to move the needle for our program. Additionally Yankee stadium hosts a bowl game each year so the novelty factor is diminished. This game could be played on Mars but would have little impact nationally unless the teams were playing for the B1G East title which seems unlikely. More likely is the fact we may be playing for bowl eligibility and that would be better suited to a game in HPSS.
Yeah, what he said: the hotdog vendors. See, at Yankee Stadium, the hotdog vendors will serve you a hotdog with either hand.
If you think it's so great, then you hold your chickenhawk games at Yankee Stadium. We'll pass, thanks.
The only thing holding back our brand and growth is a lack of consistent big wins. If we do that, our brand and growth will take care of itself. Everything else is bullshit.
Lmao. I don't doubt you're a super impressive VIP, just wondering if you were also delusional in thinking your message was passed along on a velvet pillow. I see the answer is "more than I ever imagined."
Here, I feel bad now so I'll save you the trouble of having to call "RU athletics guy" back:
"Yes, I spoke to Hobbs and he understands your concerns and is looking into it. Have a great day!"
I don't follow F1 at all, but I know this would be funny if I did : )
Not Hobbs but I have had direct communication through email from both coach Ash and Wil Gilkinson.
They do respond
They do respond
Not sure why it's ridiculous. The NYC market is the only reason we got into the B1G in the first place, so if the B1G or RU feels the need to grow it ..
Agree with whomever said that if they're going to do this, then Maryland should play the game in Baltimore (or DC, which I thought was their big add)
Ok. How about playing in Giants stadium or where the Jets play?
I hear what you're saying about Yankee Stadium being not ideal
I feel sorry for you. Just because you were "that guy" as you stated in a previous post which means you was either too lazy or too jaded to pass along customer or client concerns does not mean everyone is as lazy or uncaring about their product as you are. I am not a VIP as you suggest but without knowing what our conversation pertained to it is just delusional to assume the message will not be passed on. You have no way of knowing. However since "the answer is more than you imagined" I will take it as a fact your intellect is as small as your imagination.
Feel sorry for yourself. You're the one wasting your own time ... and are apparently too naive to realize it, so much so you have to shoot the messenger. I wasn't attacking you originally, just asking a question that applies to this greater thread, not just to you. So don't get so damn butthurt.
My job when taking those calls was to NOT pass that info along, which is my whole point. People genuinely seemed to think that by making a two-second phone call and saying "pass this along" they were making a difference. But the guy I was taking phone calls for didn't have time to deal with everyone's two-second snippets of regurgitated opinion. And it wouldn't have made much sense for him to because complaint phone calls provide a skewed view of any issue - no one's going to call and say "Can't wait to watch RU play in Yankee Stadium. Thx!!" even if they feel that way. People are going to call to complain, though, probably no matter what when it comes to all matters RU.
In this case, the decision was already made for whatever reasons. They already knew that a segment of fans and pass holders wouldn't be happy about it (it's not their first YS rodeo). They did it anyway because that's how the scales tipped. You calling to register your most important complaint just confirms what they already knew ... you're not providing any insight whatsoever. You really think they're keeping tally of each and every negative phone call?
I'll agree with you on one thing, your delusion exceeded the size of my imagination.
tl;dr Oh hai, Cicero Grimes, welcome to the world ... open your bright, twinkling eyes and see how it works.
Dude it's silly to argue at this point it's done.
I suppose I should have suspected that, but I didn't.
I will say that F1 is the way to go over the crap they do here. Something about watching names like "Ferrari" and "Mercedes" go all in before trickling tech and design into road-going sports cars is much more interesting than watching rednecks drive stock cars round and round.
whatever the case, the athletic department reads this board diligently...they know exactly how we feel on every issue
No I still feel sorry for you. You are too jaded and blinded by your own experiences and lack of intellect that you make assumptions that have no basis in fact. I have news for you, there is a world beyond the limits of your experiences. Because you handled something one way does not mean that is the only way everyone in the world would handle it. In fact I would posit that the way you handled it is not the way most companies would handle a customer complaint. But hey, you know it all. Get over yourself. Your every post just confirms that you are trapped in a small minded universe. As I said earlier, I feel sorry for you but I can see there is no point in trying to help you.
You'll be singing a different tune after you come up and attend that game. Wait. You'll see.
I respect the difficulties involved in NASCAR racing. But I greatly prefer watching road-course racing with all the variety of corners. Indy car racing is okay, but has too many accidents which kill the flow of the race.
I also like watching World Endurance Championship (e.g. 24 Hours of Le Mans) races. Blending the different classes of cars, from LMP1 down to still-recognizable racing versions of sports cars in a single race on a road-course is fun to watch.
First off, we're not talking about companies. RU Athletics is not a company, and my experience was not at a company.
Second, I didn't say definitively how things work there ... I asked a question. Then you got all butthurt and accused me of wearing a tinfoil hat (original!), exposing your own naivety. So I had to learn you a bit on the ways of the world on the other side of a complaint phone call, a world you clearly had never contemplated despite being on this big, blue ball for xx years.
Then, you got more butthurt, where a simple "thank you" would have sufficed nicely.
Once again the B1G had absolutely nothing to do with this.
Rutgers is Perfectly capable of making bad decisions without the B1G's involvement.
Second, Piscataway is just as much in the NYC Market as The Bronx. Maybe you don't understand television markets.
I didn't actually say it did, but how do you know it didn't? Seems perfectly plausible that they persuaded us, whether officially or unofficially, before or after we got into the league, to milk the NYC connection and continue YS games.
The only facts we know for sure are the massive NY media market is the primary reason we got into the B1G and the Yankees are the wealthiest, most famous sports franchise within that media market.
Both the Jets and the Giants play at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ.
Rutgers played in East Rutherford regularly prior to when we rebuilt our stadium in 1993. (Most who went to games then are glad that we don't play there anymore)
For several reasons it's not as bad as playing in Yankee Stadium, but it's still not where we, as fans, want to be. We love OUR Stadium. We love the tailgating at OUR stadium. Many of us contribute large amounts of money to secure the tailgating lot of our choice in Piscataway. Having a home game anywhere else makes it difficult to justify that donation.
Oh, and while we're discussing understanding the media, you should probably note the difference between "being within the perimeter of a media area" and being a "media darling" in that area.
I know because it has been reported that the conference had nothing to do with this.
Please explain to me why the wealth of the Yankees franchise has any benefit to Rutgers?
Does it rub off? Newsflash - people don't tune in to watch the stadium.
We are not the Yankees. The Yankees want events to fill their billion dollar stadium. that's their angle. Somehow our AD (former and current) think this is worth doing. whatever. I'll stay in New Hampshire that day instead of driving the RV down like I do for every other home game.
Where and by whom was it reported?
And if you read back, my comment was in response to someone that said, quite specifically, "promoting the brand" is not worth giving up a home game, so the brand promotion of playing in YS was already assumed. I said "if" that's something RU and the B1G believe in, then it's worth giving up a home game for.
You left out the "most famous" aspect to focus on "wealthiest" - being tied to the most recognizable brand in the world's largest city could certainly be a part of growing our own brand. Or not, I don't get paid to make that decision ... and, far as I can tell, neither does anyone here.
Jim Delaney said upon joining that the conference would not tell any member where to have their home games. In addition Duggan did an article where Hobbs said this was an "agreement in principle" made by the previous AD. There was plenty of opportunity to say "the B1G asked us to do this" but he did not say that.
Regarding "wealthiest" or "most famous", etc. I don't care it's all the same. Playing a game at their stadium does not make us "tied" to them in anyone's eyes, nor should it. We played many games in Giants stadium through the years. Does the public think we are tied to the Giants or the Tisch or Mara families? Of course not.
Yes you qualified your statement with an "IF". No argument there.
I am making the argument that it is not worth it to give up a conference (and division) home game for whatever additional media attention or brand promotion is received by playing at YS. In fact I think there is zero benefit and much to lose.
Professional NYC Football market/brand is in East Rutherford. We did not expand our stadium to give away home games and play in Yankee Stadium. That is frankly ridiculous.
A doubleheader and I'm guessing Hobbs is thinking of the publicity something like this will bring to Rutgers , helping both programs get noticed more.
Maryland & Rutgers Announce “Big Ten Battle in the Bronx” - Maryland Terrapins Athletics
>The outdoor wrestling match, which will be the first in the history of Yankee Stadium, will take place first, before DJ Durkin’s football program takes on Rutgers later that afternoon.<
http://www.umterps.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=29700&ATCLID=211168696
Maryland & Rutgers Announce “Big Ten Battle in the Bronx” - Maryland Terrapins Athletics
>The outdoor wrestling match, which will be the first in the history of Yankee Stadium, will take place first, before DJ Durkin’s football program takes on Rutgers later that afternoon.<
http://www.umterps.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=29700&ATCLID=211168696
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