He will definitely declare, but his projections are all over the place right now.. I've seen him as high as 40 which would be early to mid second round, and have seen him not ranked in the top 100 at all on a lot of sites. I think the way he's playing right now are opening a lot of eyes though. My guess he tests the waters and see's where he's at ; no guarantee either way. If he continues to shoot like this, he'll have a good shot at getting drafted because he can score at all 3 levels, can defend multiple positions and is much more athletic than you think by looking at him.
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Ron Harper, with his bloodlines , has a chance at some point to play at the next level. I would not expect him to be drafted in 2021 but exploring what the scouts think is a good thing. He still needs to improve this season and show he can consistently do it over a full season. Remember it’s college BB and there are many others just as talented. Daddy Harper and Pike will certainly give him the right direction.
Anyone have any mock drafts or anything suggesting he has the potential to be drafted? I don't see him on any projections for 2021 or 2022.
With all the talk of the NBA doing away with the one and done rule in '22, Harper could stay and actually hurt his draft stock because HS players will be entering the draft. That's why the Knicks are stockpiling future 2nd round picks. If Harper continues to play well, I don't think there is any benefit to staying from a pro ball perspective. It will come down to whether he wants to stay in college, which as some have pointed out, is more of an option for him than for others.
Disagree. Ron might not be able to guard 3’s that are either bigger or faster (which there definitely are plenty of them in the NBA), and he definitely cannot guard NBA 4’s.
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The amount of fliers taken by NBA teams on International players is absurdly high....not the obvious ones like Luka Doncic, but the kids that land on San Antonio's end of the bench or somewhere else when very few fans watch NBA games most nights.
I think NBA teams will keep a drafted player much longer if they're a quality kid and person off the floor and able to handle the potential lifestyle and travel.
I will again state, you have a prospect with a 2 parent household AND NBA background and yet somehow we have people projecting a kid to leave 4 games into his junior season.
The NBA mock drafts are already rough drafted 3 years out....that means the sophomore class of LeBron James son, is already being factored into to draft and NBA teams.....I am just grateful that RU is producing a high quality product on the court, which will attract more high quality kids to pick RU. Irregardless of whether a player leaves too early or doesn't is anyone's guess, but in this one instance for Harper, no one on this board, is going to have more information at their fingertips than Ron's parents.
The kid represents RU the right way and is developing into a player. What I am not going to do, is pick apart a kids game, in hopes he stays another year, for RUs purposes of what's best for RU in 2021-22.
The biggest hurdle in recruiting isn't RU not winning games for over a decade....it's been a player development or lack thereof. If RU produces 2 NBA caliber players that leave RU, that will help get others down the road.
I think NBA teams will keep a drafted player much longer if they're a quality kid and person off the floor and able to handle the potential lifestyle and travel.
I will again state, you have a prospect with a 2 parent household AND NBA background and yet somehow we have people projecting a kid to leave 4 games into his junior season.
The NBA mock drafts are already rough drafted 3 years out....that means the sophomore class of LeBron James son, is already being factored into to draft and NBA teams.....I am just grateful that RU is producing a high quality product on the court, which will attract more high quality kids to pick RU. Irregardless of whether a player leaves too early or doesn't is anyone's guess, but in this one instance for Harper, no one on this board, is going to have more information at their fingertips than Ron's parents.
The kid represents RU the right way and is developing into a player. What I am not going to do, is pick apart a kids game, in hopes he stays another year, for RUs purposes of what's best for RU in 2021-22.
The biggest hurdle in recruiting isn't RU not winning games for over a decade....it's been a player development or lack thereof. If RU produces 2 NBA caliber players that leave RU, that will help get others down the road.
Love the way Ron is playing, but the Melo comparison
is a little premature. Aside from the fact that he was a one and done,
and the Cuse won the title that year (03), Melo is 6'8" and could get
his own shot anytime. Big difference
Clearly Melo and PP were another level, I think there are similarities in terms of style of play, but the point here is that none of these three were lean high flying athletes.
Could someone explain how Geo Baker and Jacob Young could be on the team next year? Sorry for my ignorance!
NCAA gave a free year this year to all winter sport athletes. Basically this year doesn’t count to your eligibility
Remember Ron did go into a pretty prolonged slump mid-season last year. Maybe the great Jacob Young is going to the NBA! Haven't seen a player with his fire since John Starks in the 90s. Young is much faster and a better defender!
Is Cuse really a weak early game? This is not Cuse in their heyday but still.
And right now the big thing is he is making his 3's. It's not like he is taking guys one on one and creating all over the place. He is taking and making the shots when they present themselves,. Will teams adjust, sure, but that will just then open up other avenues, and Harper's game should allow him to adjust as well.
Miles is staying at Rutgers for his Masters. Announcers said Pike confirmed it? Anyone else hear that?
Ughh....I thought I would at least have until next January/February before having to deflate the ridiculous NBA draft threads on here.
Threads usually started by people who are adamant they "don't' watch the NBA".
I'm not even going to get into specifics about RHJ's skillset.
2020 NBA Draft:
BIG Ten players drafted: 4
1st Round: 1 (sophomore - Smith)
2nd Round: 3 (1 sophomore - Oturu, 1 junior - Tillman, 1 senior - Winston)
Nearly every notable BIG underclassman returned to school.
This includes "guaranteed 1st round picks" on this board such as Kofi and Dosunmu.
The BIG Ten player of the year Garza returned because he was a late 2nd at best and most likely undrafted.
2020 NBA Draft breakdown by round and class:
1st Round
Freshman - 12
Sophomore - 8
International - 6
Senior - 3
Junior - 1
3 upperclassman were taken in the 1st round. So right off the bat - close to zero change RHJ as a Junior is a 1st round pick. He would have to be a top 2 BIG upperclassman just to have a shot.
2nd Round
Freshman - 5
Sophomore - 7
Junior - 8
Senior - 5
International - 4
HS (Postgrad) - 1
The main reason Juniors and Seniors stay in the draft is because they are done with college. They have minimal chance at 1st round pick. It is 2nd round/undrafted for most.
They don't "improve" draft stock by staying.
The real question is - does RHJ want to leave Rutgers?
His draft prospects should have minimal impact on that decision.
Threads usually started by people who are adamant they "don't' watch the NBA".
I'm not even going to get into specifics about RHJ's skillset.
2020 NBA Draft:
BIG Ten players drafted: 4
1st Round: 1 (sophomore - Smith)
2nd Round: 3 (1 sophomore - Oturu, 1 junior - Tillman, 1 senior - Winston)
Nearly every notable BIG underclassman returned to school.
This includes "guaranteed 1st round picks" on this board such as Kofi and Dosunmu.
The BIG Ten player of the year Garza returned because he was a late 2nd at best and most likely undrafted.
2020 NBA Draft breakdown by round and class:
1st Round
Freshman - 12
Sophomore - 8
International - 6
Senior - 3
Junior - 1
3 upperclassman were taken in the 1st round. So right off the bat - close to zero change RHJ as a Junior is a 1st round pick. He would have to be a top 2 BIG upperclassman just to have a shot.
2nd Round
Freshman - 5
Sophomore - 7
Junior - 8
Senior - 5
International - 4
HS (Postgrad) - 1
The main reason Juniors and Seniors stay in the draft is because they are done with college. They have minimal chance at 1st round pick. It is 2nd round/undrafted for most.
They don't "improve" draft stock by staying.
The real question is - does RHJ want to leave Rutgers?
His draft prospects should have minimal impact on that decision.
I think your last point may be the biggest factor. RHJ will be in a similar position to Garza imo where maybe he can get drafted late, but money is not a problem and they have unfinished business in college.
They accepted Miles into the engineering master's program....not a certainly that Miles will stay here....could go continue his education somewhere else...but I think it's likely he stays.
What is your obsession with Ignas Brazdeikis?
He was drafted in #42 in 2019.
You keep using a nothing pick that ended up in the G-League as your big reference for getting RHJ to the NBA.
This is two years in a row now with this "If Ignas can be drafted - RHJ is next!" thread.
It was embarrassingly wrong last year.
Just let it go.
Ron's starting to look like a draftable player to me. But he might stay anyway to finish what he started on the court and get his degree. His family money gives him an insurance policy in life that most kids don't have.
He's averaging Bobby Lloyd #'s...true. But it's only 4 games.
IMO both Young / Mathis have shots too. Young's assists, steals and shooting and FLASH LIKE SPEED have all been MANIFIQUE ....and Montez who's a scoring man's Daintey Jones (been shooting well).
MO
Tez needs to get his 3 percentage up before he thinks about the League. I absolutely love him amd think he’s fantastic so I’m not being critical here. Just that 6’4” guys in the NBA need to fill it from the arc.
This year, due to Circumstances, is considered, just like the fall sports, a “free year”..the season does not deduct from eligibility..Geo, and JY could come back another year..
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Are we going to just forget that you strapped romeo langford not just once but twice as a true freshman? Romeo was a lottery pick. Ron is a great defender
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Just on the overseas players piece they take them so much because they can draft and stash and not hurt cap.
The biggest wash-out among 2nd Round draftees is not international players or one-and-dones. It is players drafted after their senior year. So, it makes at little sense to say if RHJ is going, this should be the year, but the reality is that he doesn't score off the dribble or drain the tres the way he would have to to be an NBA player. Wouldn't be shocked to see him drafted especially if RU goes on an NCAA run. I just don't see him beyond a 10 contract or G-league player.
When he came here I thought
he was a work in progress, and
each year there has been great
progress, especially this year.
I think he should stay next year and continue to grow. No need to rush, dad is rich.
A strong 6'8 small forward with a huge wingspan who can shoot the 3, play with his back to the basket, finish above the rim and play great defense would be a lottery pick in any draft.
Right now, would he be an NBA 2 or 3? I don't see him as either. That's not a knock on him at all. I just don't think he has the NBA game at this point of his career.
Who is 6'8? Loveee me some Ron Harper Jr but come on now.... if he was actually 6'8 he would be a lottery pick.
Don't get the Draymond comp at all. Aren't HS prospects going to be in the draft next year as well or is that one year further out with a new CBA? As others have noted I think he still has some work to do on the consistency of his game before being a first rounder. Problem is that his stock probably won't get higher as a senior because of his age. Let's see how the rest of his year plays out.
Or that Eugene left cause he was scared of Yeboah...meanwhile Eugene is dropping 30+ out west.
Its his thing...its what he does
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