Fran Brown vs Greg Long Term

[Knight Shift]

There is no one in their right mind that would not have made that move. $4 mil more per year plus 2 extra years. Better resources and support…

Absolutely, especially with the $240 million accounting error at UofA and a salary freeze there. No quibbles whatsoever. Nobody wants to be a rat, especially the last rat, on a sinking ship. But a Fisch? Should a Fisch be worried about such a thing? 😜

 

[MADHAT1]

Absolutely, especially with the $240 million accounting error at UofA and a salary freeze there. No quibbles whatsoever. Nobody wants to be a rat, especially the last rat, on a sinking ship. But a Fisch? Should a Fisch be worried about such a thing? 😜

Also the UofA , besides probably not being able to come close to the salary Washington offered, was limited by state law to giving Fisch just a 5year contract making Washington's offer more of a can't refuse even if he wanted to stay .

 

[chase07470]

The reason Syracuse has the class they have is due to NIL donors. Hornsby and McCord are NIL kids. There are likely more. We are playing catchup in this area. Hopefully more fans step up.

Greg needs to step up and sell access to him and the program and deal with a handful of rich guys being involved in everything.

 

[Eagleton96]

I think Fran Brown will be a better LT hire. Schiano's developmental program realistic ceiling seems like 8-4 or 7-5. In less than a week, Syracuse is now involved with several 4 stars [without a great NIL situation]. Everyone will argue that Brown has no HC experience and in watching his press conference I can see why recruits like him so much and you have to start somewhere! I give it 2-3 years and we will wish he was our HC. Stars MATTER! Great hire for Cuse

Or it will be their version of Fred Hill. Time will tell. Given the fact that our trajectory is up, I'll go with the proven commodity. We aren't desperate and in need of a big gamble at this moment.

 

[jakeknight]

Why was Fran never hired as a coordinator, he certainly had the bonifides as a recruiter, evidently not so much as a coordinator.
Fran' s recruits have not had a great track record for success at the collegiate level
Fren's secondaries we no great shakes especially at Rutgers
Fran may actually have a good record as the ACC sucks and with all the turmolil it will only suck more as times and rumors continue.
Sooner than later the 4&5's will gravitate more and more to the SEC and BIG, thats were the exposure and money is and wilk be
Having said that I think Fran was a good hire for the Fruit, they've been dead for years at least the talent will improve an maybe Kathy Hoechel will build a mega Rock salt storage facility near by

 

[pmvon]

So

Why was Fran never hired as a coordinator, he certainly had the bonifides as a recruiter, evidently not so much as a coordinator.
Fran' s recruits have not had a great track record for success at the collegiate level
Fren's secondaries we no great shakes especially at Rutgers
Fran may actually have a good record as the ACC sucks and with all the turmolil it will only suck more as times and rumors continue.
Sooner than later the 4&5's will gravitate more and more to the SEC and BIG, thats were the exposure and money is and wilk be
Having said that I think Fran was a good hire for the Fruit, they've been dead for years at least the talent will improve an maybe Kathy Hoechel will build a mega Rock salt storage facility near by

Not that it would have made a difference since he would have left anyway.

 

[RUFan8827]

Resurfacing this because I can’t believe the product I watched on the field the last 2 weeks… developmental program with no depth. 4 straight years starting 3-0 only to lose as soon as calendar hits October. I will always have gratitude for Schiano 1.0 but in 2.0 he’ll never get us there. I’d much rather have Fran.

 

[MADHAT1]

Resurfacing this because I can’t believe the product I watched on the field the last 2 weeks… developmental program with no depth. 4 straight years starting 3-0 only to lose as soon as calendar hits October. I will always have gratitude for Schiano 1.0 but in 2.0 he’ll never get us there. I’d much rather have Fran.

Fran took over a program that went bowling the year before.
I'd wait before deeming him a potential COY candidate every year he's Syracuse's HC
He's looking better than Schiano is right now, but to soon to tell if Brown will make the Orange constant winners.
Greg took over a garbage program and made it look like it might turn into a good one.
But .as of now, Schiano is looking like he won't be making Rutgers a constant winner and the program might not be in bowl qualifying team every year like we thought he'd make it

 

[RUbacker]

Fran took over a program that went bowling the year before.
I'd wait before deeming him a potential COY candidate every year he's Syracuse's HC
He's looking better than Schiano is right now, but to soon to tell if Brown will make the Orange constant winners.
Greg took over a garbage program and made it look like it might turn into a good one.
But .as of now, Schiano is looking like he won't be making Rutgers a constant winner and the program might not be in bowl qualifying team every year like we thought he'd make it

Lol Cuse is in the ACC. Big difference

 

[RU#1fan]

Absolutely, especially with the $240 million accounting error at UofA and a salary freeze there. No quibbles whatsoever. Nobody wants to be a rat, especially the last rat, on a sinking ship. But a Fisch? Should a Fisch be worried about such a thing? 😜

Still think Brown won’t get it done at Sara while Greg is shining down here in Piscataway?

 

[RUforlife]

Fran Brown would be very successful at Rutgers. I am not talking about Schiano mediocrity hailed as success by his fans, but real success, legit conference contenders and playoff participants year after year.

 

[drewbagel423]

Hey remember when Greg didn't think Brown wasn't ready to coach his defense and hired the bum we have now?

 

[RU#1fan]

Greg is the ultimate control freak. Probably takes a lot to actually want to be a Coordinator under him.
Stubbornness and cluelessness in game day coaching is not a good thing.

 

[Knight Shift]

Still think Brown won’t get it done at Sara while Greg is shining down here in Piscataway?

Are you developmentally disabled? Seriously, did you ride the short bus to school. Care to elaborate on your reasoning so that I can totally annihilate you ?

 

[Knight Shift]

Hey remember when Greg didn't think Brown wasn't ready to coach his defense and hired the bum we have now?

Another menses candidate.--that's not a typo. You and RU#1 should get a room together.

 

[RUFan8827]

Lol Cuse is in the ACC. Big difference

Sure you can play this card all you want. Rutgers has never won more than 3 games in B1G in 10 years… it’s just embarrassing as an RU fan and Greg is never going to get us there

 

[RUFan8827]

And the worst part is the Schiano press conferences… the excuses are hilarious at this point.