Greg Has "Significant" Demands
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I was talking about 4Real stating you could “infer” that they didn’t shake hands.
Amazing how so many of you jump to conclusions on what the "demands" are. For all we know (or Politi for that mattre) maybe the demands were legit, like academic support or denying access to all NJ.COM reporters.
Greg Brown and Pat Hobbs were the key participants.
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Newell138 meet sports forum fans, sports forum fans, Newell138:Wink:
huh? What are you talking about? Who is my man?
I forgive you. I get your board cred taking a hit.
Greg knows what it takes to win.
Listen to the man and let's get this done!!!
Listen to the man and let's get this done!!!
OK I thought you were meaning it as in “he just walked out of the room without saying goodbye” way. Thx bud.
this thread should have ended right after your very first sentence!
"According to Politi."
Board cred? What is that? I never claimed to be an insider or to know any insiders. But whatever makes you happy. Your man is Greg.
Such comments sure show an even handed non biased view of the situation.
We are almost NEVER going to play for a Championship. Let's just set our sights on matching up with Iowa, Neb and Minny.
at the end of day, he needs to mandate that the school make an investment that matches the level of play demanded by the fans and the conference. A successful program does wonders for a schools prestige, admission, surrounding economies etc etc etc.. I don't have a problem with him demanding more but the level of what's demanded (which we don't know yet) should be scrutinized which is perfectly normal.
Exactly. Our peers are Iowa, Minnesota, MSU, and NW in terms of football. 7-5 with a chance at something better every 3 or 4 years.
Who's paying for all of this in NJ? The state doesn't support RU FB, the unions steal half the money spent on construction. MD has UA, Pedd State has an entire state full of cult members, OSU is a top 5 program perennially. The fans don't donate worth a damn and hell the RU administration itself doesn't seem to care about RU FB.
You're not getting OSU or MD facilities here. Not for a long time at least.
If RU were to take this kind of advice because they actually are like minded with this guy, they should just fold up the football program because there is no point to it.
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Haha forget it. Schiano making significant demands is such a joke. Just hire Butch Jones and be average with him instead of being average with Schiano. What exactly does Rutgers think it's going to do in same division as Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State and, oh yeah, Ohio St? https://twitter.com/CFTalk/status/1192127742248148997 …
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We heard and read the same type of BS Greg's first go-round. Paterno advised him not to take the job because nobody can win there. How did that prediction play out?
Gorney's not an RU guy nor dose he understand recruiting in the local colloquialism that is NJ HS Football coaches. GS does understand that. NJ has some of the best HS football in the country, and there is only one D1 program here.
GS made some mistakes refusing to deal with the king makers in the HS football coaching ranks his first several years. He eventually made amends and fixed the problem. Ash never dealt with these guys on any level. The right guy should be able to compete with the top of the conference in time.
I am not a GS or bust guy, but accepting Adam Gormey's premise is a losers mentality.
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Urban would also deliver a top 10 team in three years.
Not without mortar he won't. :WideSmile:
I don't think he'd be able to recruit anywhere near the level of Greg at Rutgers. And that's what we need, a big uptick in talent.
Right, because it's an iron clad guarantee that Michigan State is going to be a "powerhouse" going forward. They aren't one right now.
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This is Rutgers shit or get off the pot moment. A chance to go all in and do what it takes to conpete in big 10 athletics . If they decline and then hire lesser, make no mistake this school will continue to do the bare minimum while misleading a fanbase that gets duped into believing.
Critical moment here
Critical moment here
Didn't they find remains of a Native American settlement when they were building the new Route 18 bridge over the Raritan to the Busch/Livingston campuses? You might be on to something.
To me OSU the class of the division currently..you take a step down from them and then those in that step down are possibly beatable depending on the year.
I'd much rather see funds put into getting the best staff possible. Neither Schiano nor Jones nor anyone else mentioned will be a guarantee of anything until their staff is known.
It seems clear that Schiano is demanding much more than replacing the bubble with a field house. The reason why those projects were so expensive at other schools is that they serve the role of the Hale Center + the bubble. Replacing the bubble alone with a nice indoor facility would be a fraction of the cost.
If Schiano needs full Hale Center tear down as a condition to coming back, that simply is not reasonable at this time.
If the idea is come in, pay him $4MM, agree to $100MM in facility upgrades, then he doesn't know what it takes to win. At Rutgers.
It's been reported that Schiano is "done with the Hale Center" and that "no successful program is using a facility that is 30 years old".
This seems kinda ridiculous. Is his expectation that Busch Campus become a perpetual construction zone?
If any of you have switched jobs, you would know that your max negotiating power is right before you sign the contract.
It is best to aim high on the initial negotiation before accepting the job. It's much harder to negotiate once on the job.
I'm fine with Schiano aiming high. He should. As should we all.
It is best to aim high on the initial negotiation before accepting the job. It's much harder to negotiate once on the job.
I'm fine with Schiano aiming high. He should. As should we all.
This is why it was always imperative that Pat work through a full hiring process. Pat is smart to understand that.
That's provided you have a job/other offers.
No other P5 program or similar is trying to hire Greg Schiano. He is currently unemployed.
Definitely a critical moment for a lot of fans I’m sure. If they hire Schiano I’ll go back to buying tickets. Butch Jones or some lesser guy.. pass
It doesn't matter. He doesn't need to work anymore...
It is a supply and demand issue. He knows his value to the fanbase. He should be prepared to walk away if he doesn't get what he wants.
The same think applies to any of us.
If you were financially secure enough to not need to work, you would pick and choose who you worked for and how you worked, on your terms...
It is an enviable position to be in to have "F*ck you money".
Our current AD set the standard as a coach needed to get to the Rose Bowl. That was publicly said.
With that as the standard sought, seeing if the commitment is there to match the expected eventual goal is more than reasonable.
With that as the standard sought, seeing if the commitment is there to match the expected eventual goal is more than reasonable.
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