How lucky is Kyle Flood?

[MADHAT1]

He's set up to make a lot more- this quote is going to make some of the haters upset:

"Flood, an essential voice on Texas' recruiting trail, agreed to terms on a two-year extension through 2026. His salary will expand by 6 percent, rising to $1.33 million in 2024 and $1.4 million in 2025."

8 Texas Football Coaches Receive Contract Extensions

Both of the Longhorns coordinators have received extensions through the 2024 season.

www.si.com

That's if he doesn't land a mid major HC position ( if some are still available) for around the same salary , if he wants what's available now.

 

[G- RUnit]

He deserves a lot of credit. Think he was actually a very good assistant coach. Head coach maybe not but laps around Ash. Thought good speaker too. He won a bowl game.
No need to bash.

 

[BigRnj]

He's set up to make a lot more- this quote is going to make some of the haters upset:

"Flood, an essential voice on Texas' recruiting trail, agreed to terms on a two-year extension through 2026. His salary will expand by 6 percent, rising to $1.33 million in 2024 and $1.4 million in 2025."

8 Texas Football Coaches Receive Contract Extensions

Both of the Longhorns coordinators have received extensions through the 2024 season.

www.si.com

A Queens boy selling bridges in the Deep South… I guess it’s sort of like the dumbest guy in Princeton might be the smartest guy in Mississippi 🤔🤪

 

[WasatRutgers]

Weird timing considering how bad the Bama line looks right now. With him they were the best in the ncaa.

We have never had a better O line than when he was our O line coach

 

[Knight Shift]

That's if he doesn't land a mid major HC position ( if some are still available) for around the same salary , if he wants what's available now.

He may wish to consider staying put. The demands of his job are a lot lower, less focus on him, and he is seen as doing a good job. Unless he wants to come closer to home. Perhaps if the Temple job opens, or Delaware, or LIU Post, he would consider taking one of those jobs to be closer to home.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Id' take him back as an assistant

 

[RU from Jersey]

People forget that he was demoted at RU before he became the head coach by default.

 

[satnom]

The biggest compliment I could pay Flood as a head coach was his ability to take chances on fourth down, trick plays and fake punts.

Being the head coach of a major football program was not his strong suit. His disguise operation in Princeton was pure amateur hour.

GO RU

 

[RutgersChow]

How lucky is Kyle Flood? Fired from Rutgers for doing a shitty job, gets assistant line coach for Super Bowl Falcons, goes to Alabama for their national championship team and now coaches OL for Texas vying for another national championship

We would be more accomplished today had we just given him a slap on the wrist. For starters, we would have never had to endure the Ash years. When he was fired a pretty good recruiting class also fell apart. He won a conference championship and more games than GS has won since his return, and outside of Louisville, his win over Michigan may bigger than any win GS has ever had. To say he's been lucky to be a part of all those successful programs is ignorant and moronic. The head coaches at those programs know more about KF's coaching ability than you'll ever know. He's was always considered a better game coach than GS by almost everyone here and he won NCAA recruiter of the year while at Alabama. Well you might say that would be easy to win coaching at Alabama, but no one else won it at Alabama, or OSU, PSU, Michigan or anywhere else. He won it by himself. For his entire career, Flood is not lucky. He is in fact MUCH more accomplished than GS.

When Ash was a failure, all those here who loved his hiring, which I did not from day one, felt the need to group him with Flood. No - Ash sucked totally and took the program down by himself. Flood made a couple of mistakes which would have probably been minor infractions at most schools in the SEC or Big 12.

Yeah, I guess Flood was unlucky to get hired and succeed at all of those positions. To assume he had NOTHING to do with their successes is imbecilic. I guess you believe GS was unlucky to get fired at Tampa Bay and by one of his best friends at OSU.

I don't give a crap what anyone thinks. Had we stayed the course and never hired Ash we would be much further ahead than we are ahead today. Ten years after firing Flood and what are we happy with - a couple of six win seasons. From the day Flood was fired until today we've gone pretty much no place.

 

[yesrutgers01]

People forget that he was demoted at RU before he became the head coach by default.

Another one of these…he was named Co-OC so he could get a raise. He never changed what he did on a daily basis.

 

[satnom]

We would be more accomplished today had we just given him a slap on the wrist. For starters, we would have never had to endure the Ash years. When he was fired a pretty good recruiting class also fell apart. He won a conference championship and more games than GS has won since his return, and outside of Louisville, his win over Michigan may bigger than any win GS has ever had. To say he's been lucky to be a part of all those successful programs is ignorant and moronic. The head coaches at those programs know more about KF's coaching ability than you'll ever know. He's was always considered a better game coach than GS by almost everyone here and he won NCAA recruiter of the year while at Alabama. Well you might say that would be easy to win coaching at Alabama, but no one else won it at Alabama, or OSU, PSU, Michigan or anywhere else. He won it by himself. For his entire career, Flood is not lucky. He is in fact MUCH more accomplished than GS.

When Ash was a failure, all those here who loved his hiring, which I did not from day one, felt the need to group him with Flood. No - Ash sucked totally and took the program down by himself. Flood made a couple of mistakes which would have probably been minor infractions at most schools in the SEC or Big 12.

Yeah, I guess Flood was unlucky to get hired and succeed at all of those positions. To assume he had NOTHING to do with their successes is imbecilic. I guess you believe GS was unlucky to get fired at Tampa Bay and by one of his best friends at OSU.

I don't give a crap what anyone thinks. Had we stayed the course and never hired Ash we would be much further ahead than we are ahead today. Ten years after firing Flood and what are we happy with - a couple of six win seasons. From the day Flood was fired until today we've gone pretty much no place.

Ok. Good night Mrs. Flood.

GO RU

 

[Salvi's Headband]

Both Flood and Ash are quality assistant coaches. Head coaches were a entirely different story.

Flood doesn't deserve to be lumped with with Ash. Stop it

 

[RedTeam1994]

From the day Flood was fired until today we've gone pretty much no place.

Not true

With Ash we went DOWN to the absolute basement of college football

So we absolutely did go somewhere after flood was fired. ;)

But I agree GS has brought us BACK to the level of some of Floods teams - respectable. Although one could argue that flood did it with GS 1.0 players but I digress

Anyway I agree there is simply no comparison between flood and ash. The two should not be uttered in the same sentence

I have no animosity towards flood - seems like a good guy just wasn’t cut out to be a HC. he was kind of the last-man-standing and RU went the super-cheap route and kept him on making him HC. what was he supposed to do - say no?

Ash on the other hand was an arrogant incompetent douchebag. literally ZERO redeeming qualities. Every cent he made from RU was stolen money

 

[Rutgers NJ]

I thought Kyle was a very good coach here at Rutgers,just not a good recruiter or grade changer.😇

 

[ScarletNut]

your view is 100% wrong on him and the whole affair has been discussed so many times it's not worth going into it.

you want to be pissed, be pissed where it belongs' the school, Pernetti, and Greg cause those fkers screwed us

Pernetti is not to blame. His first choice was Cristobal bailed at the last minute.

 

[MADHAT1]

Pernetti is not to blame. His first choice was Cristobal bailed at the last minute.

The blame lies in the money Pernetti was allotted to run the RU Athletic Department and the funds Tom had to hire to replace Schiano.
Instead of paying the new HC close to what Greg made , Pernetti had around half that money to hire a new HC.
You get what you pay for because good ones cost more.
Mario was a good choice for what he wanted, but wasn't the top of line that could demand good money and Tim knew that .
It took Cristobal some time to be considered a real good HC and he wasn't one when RU almost hired him

 

[rutgersdave]

We have never had a better O line than when he was our O line coach

I think we have the best O line now. When he was coach, we were off side quite a lot and we couldn't run it in under 5 yards,

 

[RUich]

Is he wearing a fake mustache?

 

[buffalochicken21]

Flood is NOT THE OC at Texas! He DOES NOT call plays, and never has at any level!

Has it ever been made more clear than last night? The announcers said Sarkisian calls the plays and cut to him on the sidelines with the play call sheet in his hand every time they had the ball.

Please let this myth of Flood the genius play caller die.

 

[yesrutgers01]

I think we have the best O line now. When he was coach, we were off side quite a lot and we couldn't run it in under 5 yards,

I’m lost…

 

[Knight Shift]

The blame lies in the money Pernetti was allotted to run the RU Athletic Department and the funds Tom had to hire to replace Schiano.
Instead of paying the new HC close to what Greg made , Pernetti had around half that money to hire a new HC.
You get what you pay for because good ones cost more.
Mario was a good choice for what he wanted, but wasn't the top of line that could demand good money and Tim knew that .
It took Cristobal some time to be considered a real good HC and he wasn't one when RU almost hired him

It was actually about 1/3 of the money, and you get what you pay for applied. during Flood's tenure.

"Schiano left Rutgers in 2012, and in 2011, he was making $2.3 million, according to USA Today's history of compensation. Kyle Flood replaced him at a salary of $760,000, which increased every year until Chris Ash took over in 2016, making $2 million. The price for Schiano, when he returned, went up to $3.8 million."

Ohio State football coach Ryan Day makes 2.5 times more than Rutgers' Greg Schiano

Ohio State's coach is ranked 4th in the country for college football coach salaries.

www.app.com

Also, very little was provided for assistant coaches and coordinators, and not sure any money at all was used to improve football facilities, from a NJ.com article. It's funny that people sacked Flood for being a lousy recruiter. Lazy recruiter-probably. But what did he have to sell against other programs? This:


"The new athletic director and the even newer football coach stood at a window here in December 2015, looked out at fields with crooked wooden light stanchions and shipping containers for equipment storage, and asked each other the same question:
"What is that?"
The answer was not something that either man, athletic director Patrick Hobbs and his coach Chris Ash, wanted to comprehend. They were looking at the practice fields for a Big Ten program, complete with lousy-to-nonexistent irrigation and lights that, they were told, "catch fire on occasion."

Those fields were more than just a place to work on tackling and blocking. They were the first thing most visitors to campus on a Saturday afternoon would see -- including, of course, the fickle high school recruits who are greeted with NFL-quality training complexes at most other top programs."

Blaming Flood for recruiting is like blaming your spouse/partner for being a lousy cook when the kitchen cupboards are bare and the only thing to cook on is a hot plate that catches fire on occasion. No wonder Flood had to cut corners, wear disguises to get his best player's grade changed, etc.

Finally, the grass is greener at Rutgers with game-changing new practice facility | Politi

The Marco Battaglia Practice Complex is worth celebrating in Piscataway.

www.nj.com

 

[yesrutgers01]

It was actually about 1/3 of the money, and you get what you pay for applied. during Flood's tenure.

"Schiano left Rutgers in 2012, and in 2011, he was making $2.3 million, according to USA Today's history of compensation. Kyle Flood replaced him at a salary of $760,000, which increased every year until Chris Ash took over in 2016, making $2 million. The price for Schiano, when he returned, went up to $3.8 million."

Ohio State football coach Ryan Day makes 2.5 times more than Rutgers' Greg Schiano

Ohio State's coach is ranked 4th in the country for college football coach salaries.

www.app.com

Also, very little was provided for assistant coaches and coordinators, and not sure any money at all was used to improve football facilities, from a NJ.com article. It's funny that people sacked Flood for being a lousy recruiter. Lazy recruiter-probably. But what did he have to sell against other programs? This:


"The new athletic director and the even newer football coach stood at a window here in December 2015, looked out at fields with crooked wooden light stanchions and shipping containers for equipment storage, and asked each other the same question:
"What is that?"
The answer was not something that either man, athletic director Patrick Hobbs and his coach Chris Ash, wanted to comprehend. They were looking at the practice fields for a Big Ten program, complete with lousy-to-nonexistent irrigation and lights that, they were told, "catch fire on occasion."

Those fields were more than just a place to work on tackling and blocking. They were the first thing most visitors to campus on a Saturday afternoon would see -- including, of course, the fickle high school recruits who are greeted with NFL-quality training complexes at most other top programs."

Blaming Flood for recruiting is like blaming your spouse/partner for being a lousy cook when the kitchen cupboards are bare and the only thing to cook on is a hot plate that catches fire on occasion. No wonder Flood had to cut corners, wear disguises to get his best player's grade changed, etc.

Finally, the grass is greener at Rutgers with game-changing new practice facility | Politi

The Marco Battaglia Practice Complex is worth celebrating in Piscataway.

www.nj.com

There also so much more to the recruiting. Of course, the first class was pretty much Greg’s that Flood/Tim held together.
The following class was looking pretty good and we were getting all of the top talent here for mult visits. And then, one of the kids took another OV elsewhere while verbal here and I remember so many people were calling for Flood to act like we were big time and pull the offer. Once that backfired, the same people blasted him for it.
The lack of support form Julie, Prince trying to back stab him to get his job, etc- and it fell apart. That was about the time you could draw a line and notice that HC KF just gave up and started collecting a paycheck.
I still hold that if Tim had still been here, he would have helped KF through it much better.
I don’t think KF was ready at the time but much more of it falls on JH and then Ash.

 

[WasatRutgers]

I think we have the best O line now. When he was coach, we were off side quite a lot and we couldn't run it in under 5 yards,

Are you talking about ‘05 and ‘06 when he was O line coach? Because we had Leonard and Rice then. And an O line that gave up less than 20 sacks in 06. I’m not talking about when he was head coach. Our O line now is better than it has been, but not compared to 06.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Are you talking about ‘05 and ‘06 when he was O line coach? Because we had Leonard and Rice then. And an O line that gave up less than 20 sacks in 06. I’m not talking about when he was head coach. Our O line now is better than it has been, but not compared to 06.

05-09 best OL’s we ever had…
Also just great talent

 

[RU Cheese]

05-09 best OL’s we ever had…
Also just great talent

Agree. Some questionable parents though :-)

 

[jerzeyguy]

Still our best coach in awhile. He did things we won't see Greg do. Like have a 8 win season, as member of the B10. Beat a SEC team, beat Michigan. Greg will never do any of these. And he's on a 11 year contract

 

[RUTGERS95]

Still our best coach in awhile. He did things we won't see Greg do. Like have a 8 win season, as member of the B10. Beat a SEC team, beat Michigan. Greg will never do any of these. And he's on a 11 year contract

tought to argue otherwise until Greg does those things. I think having a qb will help and we've go that now!

 

[The RUT]

I learned yesterday during the game that Sark scripts 40 plays lol.

I knew it was OC in name only, but it’s really OC in name only

 

[mildone]

Who was that poster? I can’t remember.

Me neither.

The legend !!

Nope, not ringing any bells.

 

[mildone]

Yes, he has been lucky to some extent. But he's also obviously talented at his current job or he wouldn't have it. It's not like it's difficult for Alabama or Texas to attract top talent so they had to settle for Flood.

I wouldn't even go as far as others have said and say Flood could never be a successful head coach. He wasn't here. But one failure doesn't establish a trend. Same with Ash.

Maybe they wouldn't make good head coaches ever. But we can't possibly know that unless they get second and maybe third chances. We can only say that in their first chance, at RU, they failed.

 

[Knight Shift]

I learned yesterday during the game that Sark scripts 40 plays lol.

I knew it was OC in name only, but it’s really OC in name only

I would take $1.4 million/year for that job and not give a flying f who called the plays.

 

[AntiG]

Flood is a very good position coach and was a solid recruiter, just not the greatest closer. Not everyone is meant to be a head coach.

 

[vkj91]

At some point people here will start to see that you just don’t get hired and retained by the best programs because you like the counting crows.

 

[mildone]

I would take $1.4 million/year for that job and not give a flying f who called the plays.

I wouldn't. Not because of ego. Because it's a ridiculously time-consuming job requiring lots of work I'd hate doing.

To me, it's a hard enough job that a person has to really love doing it or it would be too much of a struggle.

 

[mildone]

At some point people here will start to see that you just don’t get hired and retained by the best programs because you like the counting crows.

But it probably doesn't hurt. 😃

 

[LotusAggressor]

The continued hatred of a guy who was foisted into a position he was not ready for because the guy who was boss left in a flash and took everybody else with him, was swimming against the tide with lack of Rutgers support and fan support and an incompetent diversity hire of an an AD who only further hamstrung him is puzzling. The guy was justifiably fired over 8 years ago. Cut it the F loose already. Sheesh.

As you said, he's a solid assistant coach. And will say this much, when he had a solid OC running the offense, his team put up some offensive numbers (26.7 (2014) and 27.1 (2015) points per game) Rutgers has not seen since his firing, except for the covid year. 🤷‍♂️

If the fake punt TD against Louisville isn't called back for a phantom illegal man downfield penalty, he wins the Big East outright in his first year and goes to the Orange Bowl. That would probably have bought him a few more seasons. Maybe the Ash era is avoided entirely.

 

[JoeRU0304]

Still our best coach in awhile. He did things we won't see Greg do. Like have a 8 win season, as member of the B10. Beat a SEC team, beat Michigan. Greg will never do any of these. And he's on a 11 year contract

...did Flood ever beat 3 P5 teams that finished the season with a winning record in the same year? People rail on Schiano for 'beating bad teams' and 'beating teams in turmoil' and yet revel in that 2012 Arkansas win like Petrino had left to go volunteer for Greenpeace, John L. Smith was Lombardi and Arkansas didn't lose to ULM the week before on their way to a 4-8 season...and when we play a 4-8/3-9 SEC team and/or a 5-win Michigan team with Schiano as HC we'll see what happens...and in terms of 'doing things we won't see Greg do', you're probably right; I doubt Schiano will go to the Princeton Library to meet with a Dance Appreciation TA or send an email that states, 'I'm sending this from a personal email to circumvent request laws'.

...Flood certainly wasn't the worst HC ever but this whole 'funhouse mirror' prop-up of his time here is beyond weird to me.

Joe P.

 

[LotusAggressor]

I think we have the best O line now. When he was coach, we were off side quite a lot and we couldn't run it in under 5 yards,

The OL this season is nowhere near as good as the OLs in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008. It's better than 2010, though.

 

[LotusAggressor]

At some point people here will start to see that you just don’t get hired and retained by the best programs because you like the counting crows.

Or if you stay out very very late.

 

[JoeRU0304]

Flood is a very good position coach and was a solid recruiter, just not the greatest closer. Not everyone is meant to be a head coach.

This x1000.

Joe P.