I agree to a point. It is also on the players who are underperforming and in some cases sulking
Previous 30 years. 0 seasons with a winning conference record in 4 different conferences. 0 NCAA appearances.
Ok are winning percentage has gone down every year. Our postseason success or inclusion has declined every year. Our development , recruiting , and offense has declined . If you choose to use and out of conference schedule to try and explain away Pikes accountability then have at it
Wake up it’s not 30 years ago. You build an elite program by capitalizing on your teams success year over year. Not by going backwards. We pay coaches well, players well, facilities top notch, arena top 5 and getting upgraded. Win or step aside
NEXT YEAR! I was referring to the 5 year trend that coincidedes with the declining wins. Gavin was a good recruit on paper but the class was underwhelming coming in. Gavin( player development pike). Has been unplayable and looks as if he couldn’t play for a mid major let alone a power 5.( yes last 3 games have been ok but a 5 star at year end can’t be ok). Davis nice rotation 8 man type player.
We know though thanks to analytics that record is not the best judge of quality or predictor of success.
I don’t think it was a terrible class. If we hadn’t lost Cam and Paul this season would’ve gone fine. There was really only one bust year and it was more because of the super senior situation and not having room. Jalen Miller was a bust. The following year - Simpson and Wolf we’re ok. Not great but they would’ve been fine if we had Paul and Cam too.
Development? Wolfe lost weight and minutes and can’t catch the ball and may be allergic to rebounds. Simpson was our best player the last 8 games of the year and in the big ten tournament and now can’t throw the ball in the ocean his defense and rebounding has improved. Cliff never developed after his sophomore year.
Yea, maybe we could steal Mike Woodson from Indiana. Finished 3 spots higher than us in the Big Ten, must be a genius. Hows his recruiting class going btw with their $100 million dollar NIL budget
I’ll take Chris Collins who already has coached in NJ. Also I don’t think Woodson had a brother legacy or godfather on his staff.
Chris Collins made the tournament in his fourth season at Northwestern and then followed that up with 5 straight losing seasons.
Would take him tomorrow! After this year he’ll have 3 tournament appearances and trending positively last 4 seasons. Pike has one and the play in game in 10 years.
Hilarious for him to be saying he wants Collins who had 4 straight losing seasons but can't give Pike a pass for 1
He’s been there 11 years, has the same number of tournament appearances (will have one more after this year) one more tournament win, and the same number of winning seasons that Pike has in 8 years.
The RAC Arena isn't top five.Its old and needs a major upgrade which won't happen for at least two years.The fan impact has lessened with a team that lacks shooters.
Better x and o coach ! What he has done at NW harder and more impressive then Pikes turn around here. 5 straight declining seasons coming off a complete meltdown followed by below 500. I agree about next year and the optimism but is anyone positive Pike can get it done ? I hope so
Five straight losing seasons. In years 5 through 9 of his tenure at Northwestern.
How many times in NW history had they made the tournament prior to Chris Collins?????? What he did and is doing is far more impressive than what Pike has done. Pike has the advantage in everything when it comes to the program over NW. so yes his 3 appearances over our 1 and play in game is impressive. We wax poetic with since the 1980’s or the 70’s team . NW had zero success to speak of before Collins. So yes I would take him
Two. It’s two appearances.
It's the most anticipated season in Rutgers history. Stop wasting your time on potential disaster scenarios and enjoy it. He's done a lot more with a lot less talent. Assuming failure with elite studs is agenda driven. Nothing more
Fair! I am definitely holding Pike to a higher standard because it’s my school one that I love. One that I love and die for . Donate money time and energy and my goal isn’t to be better the ln NW or finish in the bottom of the standings. All the excuses about big time basketball for this coach and staff are gone. Win or we make a change. The program has evolved credit to Pike but I don’t believe he is the guy to take us to the next level. I pray I am wrong
Not even close. Northwestern was 12-24 in conference the two years prior to Collins taking over, Rutgers was 3-33 before Steve took over. He started in a far deeper hole.
Our past should not and does not limit our future, a lot of reasons for our past limitations no longer exist. Your expectations should not be a free pass to underperformance.
This is how he is coming across
One year around .500 isn't the end of the world. Much better programs than Rutgers have seasons like this occasionally
Not another person pushing the "Gavin came cause Pike was friends with his dad" take. Its not true. And if the coaches aren't allowed to be praised for recruiting because of connections, then what coach can be commended for their recruiting? We need to def strike while the iron is hot, and it seems like we have some decent connections with the 2025 class. I trust Pike.
Sure, our past should not limit our future. But thinking we should be immune from having a down year here and there because we had a brief period of success after 30 years of mediocrity (to put it kindly) is completely unrealistic.
It has been a bad year! If he doesn’t fix this year’s shortcomings the 2 new guys are not going to be enough.
I believe my above response covers this.
No worries understood, not trying to flame just trying to have a discussion on a discussion board as a fan since 1980, letter winner and graduate. Rutgers is more important to me than pretending Pike did a great job this season.
