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If Ash Doesn't Pan Out, Who Do You Want as RU HC?

Mark Mangino.
1) Won a National Championship as an offensive coordinator at Oklahoma
2) Won a BCS game at Kansas as s head coach

This head coach is a "I need a second chance hire". On the other hand he has wealth of head coaching knowledge. This is a head coach with a wealth of knowledge and a winning mentality.
 
Mark Mangino.
1) Won a National Championship as an offensive coordinator at Oklahoma
2) Won a BCS game at Kansas as s head coach

This head coach is a "I need a second chance hire". On the other hand he has wealth of head coaching knowledge. This is a head coach with a wealth of knowledge and a winning mentality.
another midwest guy...well qualified but we need east coast type of tie in for next HC.
 
Careful, you will be accused of being board police.
Wouldn't be the first time. LOL

I'm not policing him and telling him not to post. Just pointing out that he greatly resembles Eeyore, personality-wise. Or maybe Marvin, the perpetually pessimistic, deeply dejected robot from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Everybody gets to choose how they want to go through life. I choose to be happy and to try to spread that happiness. He chooses... otherwise, I guess.
 
Wouldn't be the first time. LOL

I'm not policing him and telling him not to post. Just pointing out that he greatly resembles Eeyore, personality-wise. Or maybe Marvin, the perpetually pessimistic, deeply dejected robot from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Everybody gets to choose how they want to go through life. I choose to be happy and to try to spread that happiness. He chooses... otherwise, I guess.
Right on, brother.
While not happy with the current state of RU Football, I'm not going to mope over it and lash out over every little thing perceived to be wrong. Too much else to be happy about in life. Have a fabulous day.
 
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Wouldn't be the first time. LOL

I'm not policing him and telling him not to post. Just pointing out that he greatly resembles Eeyore, personality-wise. Or maybe Marvin, the perpetually pessimistic, deeply dejected robot from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Everybody gets to choose how they want to go through life. I choose to be happy and to try to spread that happiness. He chooses... otherwise, I guess.
"I was talking to the ships computer...and he hates me.""
 
Right on, brother.
While not happy with the current state of RU Football, I'm not going to mope over it and lash out over every little thing perceived to be wrong. Too much else to be happy about in life. Have a fabulous day.
You too, my friend. It's freaking beautiful out in central NJ today. Love this time of year.
 
Greg Schiano
100%
Miss me Yet?
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Not even a little bit. There's zero evidence that if he were our coach right now, we wouldn't be in exactly the same place.
yes a Coach who rebuilt the program from patriot level,produced ranked teams,yearly bowl games,coached in NFL..after 1.5 wouldnt have RU in the same spot.
 
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yes a Coach who rebuilt the program from patriot level,produced ranked teams,yearly bowl games,coached in NFL..after 1.5 wouldnt have RU in the same spot.
I like Greg but I am not sure he would have had much more success at this point in time with this talent. We do not have the horses and the depth right now to be competitive with the top teams in the B1G.
 
Within reason considering we are still 3 years from a full payout...who would you want as RU HC if Ash fails? I say Bo Pelini. He got a raw deal at Nebraska, and almost won the NC at YSU. He comes from the same cloth as Schiano...brash, in your face.
Please stop.
 
Not even a little bit. There's zero evidence that if he were our coach right now, we wouldn't be in exactly the same place.
There’s also zero evidence that he wouldn’t have won every national championship from 2014-now. See how fun that is!
 
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yes a Coach who rebuilt the program from patriot level,produced ranked teams,yearly bowl games,coached in NFL..after 1.5 wouldnt have RU in the same spot.
A coach that failed in the NFL and got fired. A coach who could never beat WVU. A coach who could never win a weakened Big East. A coach that padded the schedule with soft teams. A coach that many here argued was a very poor game-day coach.

He was a very good program builder and I totally respect him for it. But that accomplishment is not the same thing as coming in after Flood's tenure and doing substantially better than Ash is doing right now.

What is it that you think Schiano would be doing differently than Ash is doing right now? As I posted in an earlier thread, recruiting-wise, the stats show them to be equivalent. Both are disciplinarians. Both are tough-minded. Both are control-freaks. Both worked hard to build up the facilities. Both struggled in their early years at RU.
 
There’s also zero evidence that he wouldn’t have won every national championship from 2014-now. See how fun that is!
The roster is the evidence against that. Saban could not win it all with our talent.
 
There are 11 years of evidence that wouldn't have happened.
this wouldnt have happened .last season.Or going foward weekly.


58-0. 78-0. 49-0. 39-0.

FCS schools against their bigger FBS brothers?

Not quite. These are the poundings Rutgers has taken in Big Ten play this season against Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State and now Penn State, respectively
 
this wouldnt have happened .last season.Or going foward weekly.


58-0. 78-0. 49-0. 39-0.

FCS schools against their bigger FBS brothers?

Not quite. These are the poundings Rutgers has taken in Big Ten play this season against Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State and now Penn State, respectively
Was 80-7 against WVU much different? Or the Miami games? Greg is a good coach but without talent he also took his lumps. I would have had no problem if Greg had been rehired but I would not have expected much of a difference on the field.
 
this wouldnt have happened .last season.Or going foward weekly.


58-0. 78-0. 49-0. 39-0.

FCS schools against their bigger FBS brothers?

Not quite. These are the poundings Rutgers has taken in Big Ten play this season against Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State and now Penn State, respectively
There’s no evidence to support your contention that a Schiano coached team wouldn’t have suffered similarly. Schiano had 11 years to win a weakened Big East and never did, even in seasons when he had ranked teams.

I don’t want a coach that can prevent us from getting blown out in games, but not win the big games. If we were going to get a new coach, I want a coach that can take RU to a national championship. No evidence at all Schiano is that guy.
 
There’s no evidence to support your contention that a Schiano coached team wouldn’t have suffered similarly. Schiano had 11 years to win a weakened Big East and never did, even in seasons when he had ranked teams.

I don’t want a coach that can prevent us from getting blown out in games, but not win the big games. If we were going to get a new coach, I want a coach that can take RU to a national championship. No evidence at all Schiano is that guy.
However, I do believe he was on the brink of winning a BE Title if he stayed.
 
I doubt the timing will be right, but in around three years some program will snatch this guy up. His turnaround job has been near miraculous: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Creighton

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Coaching W-L Record.
Ottawa 1997-2000: 32-9
Wabash 2001-07: 63-15/ 41-7
Drake 2008-13: 42-22/ 35-13
EMU 2014-15: 12-29/ 5-20

Either the Peter Principle kicked in when he made it to the MAC (He did not have a losing season overall or in conference from 1997-2013), or EMU was in terrible shape when he started. They were 11-46 over 5 seasons with previous coach.
2014: 2-10 / 1-7
2015: 1-11 /0-8
2016: 7-6 / 4-4
2017: 2-2 / 0-1

Maybe Ash is on a similar trajectory, and RU will go 7-6 and 4-4 next year. Maybe not.
 
I doubt the timing will be right, but in around three years some program will snatch this guy up. His turnaround job has been near miraculous: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Creighton

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again,we are in the B10 east. This is a massive rebuild thanks to Flood and RU going on the cheap for years prior..
Program needs a name past or ,current Power five head Coach to take over the program,not another assistant,not a Mac coach.
 
Yes he will.

Based on what exactly?

No evidence to suggest we win another game this year, which I don’t think we will, and don’t have much experience at QB in 2018 either. I’ll be the first to praise the coaches once they show some signs of life. Still waiting a year and a half later
 
The intriguing question for me is, while Hobbs' preference would be to keep his hire as HC, could 3 or less wins, declining ticket sales and Flood-level recruiting force him to make a change after year 3 ?

Meaning, regardless of what Ash inherited, might Hobbs need to make a big name hire just to reverse the fan interest and recruiting decline ?

People often refer to Beamer's first years. I wonder how VTs revenues were affected. Maybe the revenue was stable despite the poor W-L under Beamer at first.
 
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again,we are in the B10 east. This is a massive rebuild thanks to Flood and RU going on the cheap for years prior..
Program needs a name past or ,current Power five head Coach to take over the program,not another assistant,not a Mac coach.

There is a lot of turnover with P5 programs yearly. There might be 3 or more job openings in the SEC alone this off season. Like it or not, Rutgers is close to the bottom of the P5 pecking order. Chip Kelly isn't on deck.
 
Mark Mangino.
1) Won a National Championship as an offensive coordinator at Oklahoma
2) Won a BCS game at Kansas as s head coach

This head coach is a "I need a second chance hire". On the other hand he has wealth of head coaching knowledge. This is a head coach with a wealth of knowledge and a winning mentality.
Dude makes Fridge look healthy
 
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