If Ash Doesn't Pan Out, Who Do You Want as RU HC?

[vkj91]

Stupid exercise for two reasons:
1. Not happening for at least 3 years
2. most don't know any of these names until they blow up and we aren't hiring now.(Jason Candle would be a name in two or three years)

That being said, I'll play
Matt Rhule.....wont be at that dumpster fire long
Charlie Strong
Norvell

 

[vkj91]

He looks like he is about to eat the guy with the whistle.

not to mention, in 8 seasons he had only 1 year above 500 in conference.

 

[cicero grimes]

For those complaining about the offense, Art Briles would be a good choice, of course every co-ed would have to be given a 24 hr security detail based upon his recruiting histor

not to mention, in 8 seasons he had only 1 year above 500 in conference.

Correct. However think about the publicity the school would receive if we had a create a fat sandwich contest in his honor.

 

[ivan brunetti]

Are you sure about that?

He slimmed down while at Iowa State:

Mangino looks like what you would get if you told a grade schooler to "draw a ball with a head".

 

[BlockR]

he had a contract extension till 2021,but I think he has a buyout in 2018 or 2019.
If hes available..NJ Guy Narduzzi.! (or Schiano)
Narduzzi's declaration comes after Gannett New Jersey reported “mutual interest” between Narduzzi and Rutgers before it hired Ohio State defensive coordinator Chris Ash.

“Of course, I did,” he said, facetiously. Then, he got serious.“There were absolutely no conversations with, not only (Rutgers), but anybody. That's a fact. That's the world of Twitter that we are in nowadays,” he said.

 

[Bilderberg_News]

BRODERICK FOBBS

 

[madchuck]

Chip Kelly

 

[RU#1fan]

Stupid exercise for two reasons:
1. Not happening for at least 3 years
2. most don't know any of these names until they blow up and we aren't hiring now.(Jason Candle would be a name in two or three years)

That being said, I'll play
Matt Rhule.....wont be at that dumpster fire long
Charlie Strong
Norvell

1. That's not a fact. You don't what know will happen if we only win 2 games over the next 15 months.
2. Strong is a solid choice.
As is Rocky Long ( SDSU)
And Mike Norvel
Scott Frost

 

[vkj91]

1. That's not a fact. You don't what know will happen if we only win 2 games over the next 15 months.
2. Strong is a solid choice.
As is Rocky Long ( SDSU)
And Mike Norvel
Scott Frost

Frost isn't going anywhere until Nebraska situation plays out.
Long gone this year
Big Norvel fan. I got to sit in on one of his offensive meetings while he was at ASU. Impressive coach.

 

[RU#1fan]

Frost isn't going anywhere until Nebraska situation plays out.
Long gone this year
Big Norvel fan. I got to sit in on one of his offensive meetings while he was at ASU. Impressive coach.

I hope Frost will be in our mix ......like him a lot.
Why is Long gone after this year ????

 

[vkj91]

I hope Frost will be in our mix ......like him a lot.
Why is Long gone after this year ????

Because he's 67 and coming off two 11 win seasons. He either strike while iron is hit or he's at SDSU forever. I like Frost and he has NJ connections but if Nebraska doesn't fire their coach this year frost will take another job next year

 

[RU31trap]

I hope Frost will be in our mix ......like him a lot.
Why is Long gone after this year ????

Again, a guy who does not have extensive head coaching experience. With the exception of his current gig, he coached at Oregon, an elite programs with elite talent. Sound familiar??

Go after a no nonsense taskmaster who will win his share of games (6 to 7). Start chipping away at the recruiting front by poaching two or three 4 star recruits with an occasional diamond in the ruff. In three years we'll have a solid team and head coach on the sidelines who's been to the dance. Trust me it makes a big difference to have a guy with solid head coaching experience.

 

[vkj91]

Again, a guy who does not have extensive head coaching experience. With the exception of his current gig, he coached at Oregon, an elite programs with elite talent. Sound familiar??

Go after a no nonsense taskmaster who will win his share of games (6 to 7). Start chipping away at the recruiting front by poaching two or three 4 star recruits with an occasional diamond in the ruff. In three years we'll have a solid team together with a head coach who's been to the dance. Trust me it makes a big difference to have a guy with solid head coaching experience.

Who exactly do you think we would be targeting. P5 coaches with multiple championships under their belt? Schools like Rutgers have two options. Up and coming coordinator or non P5 coach. I'm not a fan of retreads for the most part

 

[RU31trap]

Who exactly do you think we would be targeting. P5 coaches with multiple championships under their belt? Schools like Rutgers have two options. Up and coming coordinator or non P5 coach. I'm not a fan of retreads for the most part

Not convinced the options are plentiful and much depends on who the Administration approves.

 

[Bamm Bamm Rubble]

Ash will get the job done!

 

[RU31trap]

Ash will get the job done!

The only fans left who believe what you wrote is a shrinking contingency on this site. If he wants the majority of NJ residents, alumni and peers to believe he'll get it done, he needs to defeat his next opponent. An opponent which is led by 14 freshman and very well may be considered the worst team in B10 history. A loss to Illinois should demand and trigger immediate action.

 

[yesrutgers01]

If Ash can get the offense to come around to the point where he now has the defense playing and we can build depth, then we will have some success. I believe he easily gets next year and most likely the following as well. On the other hand, being shutout so many times is very concerning. As dumb as it sounds but if those were all 45-10 56-14 etc...you would see much less complaining. But not to score that many times over a 2 year period...

 

[madchuck]

If Ash can get the offense to come around to the point where he now has the defense playing and we can build depth, then we will have some success. I believe he easily gets next year and most likely the following as well. On the other hand, being shutout so many times is very concerning. As dumb as it sounds but if those were all 45-10 56-14 etc...you would see much less complaining. But not to score that many times over a 2 year period...

Flood teams scored points for the most part. They even got into shootouts. Will Ash ever score 40 points on anybody but an MEAC team?

 

[RUchip]

well... Mark Richt WAS available when we were looking... but no one listened

We’d have to selll Long Beach Island to the federal government to pay for his salary.

Ive said it 100 times. Rutgers will never, ever compete until they pay money for a proven head coach. They can hire the top assistants all they want. You need a proven HC who will be able to recruit not only NJ but everywhere.

Ash isn’t going anywhere until 2019 the earliest. Our program does not have the money. Our fans and boosters don’t donate so you get what you get. That is where we are and we will never win more than 4-5 games per year until we hire a proven winning big time coach. It’s simple.

 

[mikershoein]

I don’t deal in hypocritical but you have forced my hand.....

RutgersAl, its a no brainer
- has got the field smarts, can see weaknesses in oppostion better than most
- best attitude, sees the glass half full
- knows how to motivate a fan base to get behind the team
- already has national recognition via several news articles ( saw a comment in article a few weeks ago in USA Today.com, I posted it)

Case closed

 

[rutger80]

This guy might be available soon:

 

[rutgersguy1]

Stupid exercise for two reasons:
1. Not happening for at least 3 years
2. most don't know any of these names until they blow up and we aren't hiring now.(Jason Candle would be a name in two or three years)

That being said, I'll play
Matt Rhule.....wont be at that dumpster fire long
Charlie Strong
Norvell

I agree with your two points and always say every year is a new crop of available coaches, so who's to know who's around or not if/when we ever need to look.

That being said you know I always like to talk about guys I think could make good HCs at this level. This is all general, not related to us in particular.

Dave Aranda was the guy I was always lobbying for when we hired Ash but with the caveat that I wasn't sure he wanted to be a HC because of his low key nature. DC in NFL might be his dream goal, not HC anywhere. Even some LSU fans have that impression now, which makes me think maybe it's true. I'll take him as DC anytime anyplace but don't know if he wants to be THE MAN.

I always look for the guys who have shown some capability of doing more with less somewhere in their career. I think that's especially important when it comes to us but is helpful attribute for any school.

Joe Moorhead PSU OC/former Fordham HC - turning around Fordham now coupled with PSU performance after the debacle on offense before. Wasn't a sure of him before but now that he's shown his stuff at this level, I think he could make a good choice.

Doug Meacham - strong co-OC from TCU now Kansas OC trying to make a name for himself. Kansas ranked over 100 in scoring and ypg last year and to date this year I think in the 20s for one and in the 50s for the other. Early in the season but quite an improvement.

Mike Yurchich - Ok. State OC and like Meacham another off the Gundy tree similar to Larry Fedora, Todd Monken, Dana Holgorsen who have turned out to be solid coaches. Prior to Ok. State was powering a top offense in the country at D2 Shippenburg in PA and Gundy plucked him from there literally just looking at NCAA stats and then interviewing him. In his first year at Shippenburg transformed them from a Wing T offense to a up tempo spread with very good results which continued.

Brent Venables - Clemson DC, I've liked him since I've liked Herman. Always wondered why he's never gotten a HC job after his long successful tenure as a DC both at OU and now Clemson. He's a good recruiter too. Only thing I could ever find was he may be a little hot headed. I don't know if that's the reason though. Considering his experiences at OU and Clemson he'd likely run a spread offense too.

 

[Andy117]

Rex Ryan.

I've always thought Rex belonged in the college game. I think he'd be a great recruiter.

 

[ru109]

Within reason considering we are still 3 years from a full payout...who would you want as RU HC if Ash fails? I say Bo Pelini. He got a raw deal at Nebraska, and almost won the NC at YSU. He comes from the same cloth as Schiano...brash, in your face.

Let's see he has to have NJ roots in order to keep people happy. He needs to be able to take below average players and have them win 9 or 10 games in year one. He also needs to bring in a top 10 class every year, keep every NJ kid home and never miss on one. Once I can think of a coach that can do all these things I'll get back to you.

 

[alex13rufan]

I like Greg but I am not sure he would have had much more success at this point in time with this talent. We do not have the horses and the depth right now to be competitive with the top teams in the B1G.

He would have done a better job

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

I don’t deal in hypocritical but you have forced my hand.....

RutgersAl, its a no brainer
- has got the field smarts, can see weaknesses in oppostion better than most
- best attitude, sees the glass half full
- knows how to motivate a fan base to get behind the team
- already has national recognition via several news articles ( saw a comment in article a few weeks ago in USA Today.com, I posted it)

Case closed

We'd be the "Alabama of the north" in what? A game or two!? Sweet! Do it!

 

[R1776U]

We’d have to selll Long Beach Island to the federal government to pay for his salary.

Ive said it 100 times. Rutgers will never, ever compete until they pay money for a proven head coach. They can hire the top assistants all they want. You need a proven HC who will be able to recruit not only NJ but everywhere.

Ash isn’t going anywhere until 2019 the earliest. Our program does not have the money. Our fans and boosters don’t donate so you get what you get. That is where we are and we will never win more than 4-5 games per year until we hire a proven winning big time coach. It’s simple.

lol at the first sentence... but we def could've forked up the dough for MR.. with the B1G money coming it would've been easy

 

[Bamm Bamm Rubble]

The only fans left who believe what you wrote is a shrinking contingency on this site. If he wants the majority of NJ residents, alumni and peers to believe he'll get it done, he needs to defeat his next opponent. An opponent which is led by 14 freshman and very well may be considered the worst team in B10 history. A loss to Illinois should demand and trigger immediate action.

I suggested Scott Frost and Lincoln Riley but people kept saying they were too young and unproven before and after Flood was fired. I would have even higher Lincoln (who I personally know) when he was the OC at East Carolina. The man has been a prodigy since he was an assistant at Texas Tech. Everyone on the coaching staff but Leach knew the kid was going to be good.

Charlie Strong ( now it's recruiting Connections in Texas and Florida) and Rich Rodriguez ( who may want to return home to the East Coast) are my top 4 choices.

I really believe that Ash and Kill can turn this around as early as next season. I truly believe that we can be a top 25 team at the end of the next season.

 

[BlockR]

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Who exactly do you think we would be targeting. P5 coaches with multiple championships under their belt? Schools like Rutgers have two options. Up and coming coordinator or non P5 coach. I'm not a fan of retreads for the most part

Wrong! Thats why we are in the current mess,an assistant,never been a HC,trying to compete in a power house divsion.Also having a midwest staff with little to no East coast ties dosent help in recruiting.. Proven power 5 experienced HC is the only way Ru can turn after Ash,they will have the money by then,or be a year away.. This is the B10 east,toughest division in College and with a tough rebuild.

 

[FanuSanu52]

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Wrong! Thats why we are in the current mess,an assistant,never been a HC,trying to compete in a power house divsion.Also having a midwest staff with little to no East coast ties dosent help in recruiting.. Proven power 5 experienced HC is the only way Ru can turn after Ash,they will have the money by then,or be a year away.. This is the B10 east,toughest division in College and with a tough rebuild.

None of that is why we are in this current mess.

And no it's not the only way RU can turn around, nor is it likely the way we are going to go. If this sh#t show continues leading to Ash's exit, how many "proven P5 coaches" do you reckon will be knocking down Rutgers' door (or walking through RU's door after Hobbs begs them, for that matter)? That's an opportunity for a guy who has something to prove, not a guy who's already proven it. Sure, maybe the timing and every star in the universe will align, bringing that perfect guy to the banks. But don't get your hopes all high.

 

[Rutgers1982]

The only fans left who believe what you wrote is a shrinking contingency on this site. If he wants the majority of NJ residents, alumni and peers to believe he'll get it done, he needs to defeat his next opponent. An opponent which is led by 14 freshman and very well may be considered the worst team in B10 history. A loss to Illinois should demand and trigger immediate action.

Settle down Francis

 

[JMORC2003]

Dave Wannstedt

 

[BlockR]

None of that is why we are in this current mess.

And no it's not the only way RU can turn around, nor is it likely the way we are going to go. If this sh#t show continues leading to Ash's exit, how many "proven P5 coaches" do you reckon will be knocking down Rutgers' door (or walking through RU's door after Hobbs begs them, for that matter)? That's an opportunity for a guy who has something to prove, not a guy who's already proven it. Sure, maybe the timing and every star in the universe will align, bringing that perfect guy to the banks. But don't get your hopes all high.

Money money money. Look ,as of today Id allmost drop the proven power five head coach thing if we could get a proven AAC coach here right now.Bottom line,no more Assistants wanting to be a Head Coach.Too big a rebuild job, in too tough division/confrence ,to learn on the job.

 

[Debtbubble]

He's not HC material. Was obvious the day he stayed to coach OSU in the bowl game. Has looked bewildered since the day he actually showed up.

Even if he pulls out a miracle win somehow this season. It's all over but the he crying. Season tickets will drop again to around 20,000.

Million more fly out the door when that happens.

 

[nikoru09]

A coach that failed in the NFL and got fired. A coach who could never beat WVU. A coach who could never win a weakened Big East. A coach that padded the schedule with soft teams. A coach that many here argued was a very poor game-day coach.

He was a very good program builder and I totally respect him for it. But that accomplishment is not the same thing as coming in after Flood's tenure and doing substantially better than Ash is doing right now.

What is it that you think Schiano would be doing differently than Ash is doing right now? As I posted in an earlier thread, recruiting-wise, the stats show them to be equivalent. Both are disciplinarians. Both are tough-minded. Both are control-freaks. Both worked hard to build up the facilities. Both struggled in their early years at RU.

some people just dont like ash for one reason, or another...blah personality, lousy dresser, bad face maker while coaching,stubborn, coached os bowl game, bad hires,he's a hick,and jersy's no place for a mid west guy,bad game day coach,and many, many more that
have slipped my mind. give me time i'll come up with more...." free al golden "

 

[theRU]

I would actually take Charlie Strong. Dude knows how to recruit FLA... hes got USF solid again. He could do well for RU.

 

[koleszar]

I'd keep a close eye for the next few years on Lance Leipold up at Buffalo and see how he does. He won 6 Div. III national championships and now has taken the next step up. He has Buffalo slowly turning it around and that's not an easy place to win. Not saying he's going to be great, just a name to watch for in a couple years. He's only 53, if he can prove himself at Buffalo, that'll be two stops he's won at.

 

[FanuSanu52]

I would actually take Charlie Strong. Dude knows how to recruit FLA... hes got USF solid again. He could do well for RU.

I like Strong in theory but he hasn't proven anything at USF yet. Taggart already had them strong, which is why he's at Oregon.

See how he's doing in a couple years before declaring he's done anything there. An important distinction in his case because he still gets criticized for not doing anything without a Heisman-level QB.

 

[Bamm Bamm Rubble]

Give coach Ash some time! The big 10 isn't exactly a walk in the park.

 

[MYHATINTHERING]

some people just dont like ash for one reason, or another...blah personality, lousy dresser, bad face maker while coaching,stubborn, coached os bowl game, bad hires,he's a hick,and jersy's no place for a mid west guy,bad game day coach,and many, many more that
have slipped my mind. give me time i'll come up with more...." free al golden "

He just sucks.....refute it