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If I were an RU fan, I wouldn't be very happy right now

Would you like me to pay rent or are you going to continue to allow me to live in your head for free?

Good Lord. It was one post and I later said it was wrong.

All I'm doing is observing a post that was a question 30 seconds on Google search would've answered sufficiently. And your "I only posted one thing" answer for everything is getting old very quick.
 
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BTW, for those thinking this was a troll or flame I posted on tMB regarding some of these exact things with posters from the B1G W as the NEB/Iowa/MN posters were talking about Fleck. I have no idea what the facilities, admin support, etc. is like for anyone in the B1G W. Guessing Nebraska and Wisky are light years ahead.
 
I think we should stop trying to rationalize with the guy who must have posted like 50 times in the PSU game thread on THIS board during the game. I don't even know how you were even able to actually watch the game with the insane amount of posting you did.
 
All I'm doing is observing a post that was a question 30 seconds on Google search would've answered sufficiently. And your "I only posted one thing" answer for everything is getting old very quick.

Look at the great discussion I would have missed out on. I post a lot of detailed stuff on here re: PSU to try and add to discussions. That info could also be easily found on Google.

My one post comment holds true and it was in direct response to a post you made in that thread and then referenced here.
 
I think we should stop trying to rationalize with the guy who must have posted like 50 times in the PSU game thread on THIS board during the game. I don't even know how you were even able to actually watch the game with the insane amount of posting you did.

The actual game takes less than an hour. The broadcast was 4+. I don't know enough about football to sit and watch the formations/substitutions/reads/audibles,etc.
 
So Penn State athletics derive all of their revenue from B1G association, attendance, merchandising, etc?

Also, any idea how much they make from people attending a home game? Always wondered that.

I couldn't find a by-game breakdown via a quick Google search, but it's a good chunk of change. For the sake of round numbers: 100,000 tickets sold at $55 apiece gets you to $5.5 million, before you even look at parking, concessions, etc.
 
Look at the great discussion I would have missed out on. I post a lot of detailed stuff on here re: PSU to try and add to discussions. That info could also be easily found on Google.

My one post comment holds true and it was in direct response to a post you made in that thread and then referenced here.
And you telling people to STFU and that other crap on New Years was my fault too, right?
 
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I couldn't find a by-game breakdown via a quick Google search, but it's a good chunk of change. For the sake of round numbers: 100,000 tickets sold at $55 apiece gets you to $5.5 million, before you even look at parking, concessions, etc.

Yeah but you have staffing and such to account for.
 
I'd be curious to know where the millions in payments for the victims (aka hush money)came from. Probably not the athletic budget, I'd guess.

I don't pretend to know how every single dollar has been accounted for - though the university as a whole should absolutely be held accountable for the Sandusky fines, settlements, etc., and not only athletics. But athletics did borrow $30 million from the general fund that is scheduled to be paid back with interest (it may already haven been?).
 
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I'm quick on the draw!

I'll say. If I waited 13 years to make a troll post, I'd at least post some nudes or have a much stronger take.

Thanks for not bringing the hammer. Probably a good time for me to peace out and not make your job harder than it needs to be.

Good luck to RU tonight in wrestling. If not for the PSU dual I would definitely check in on BTN Plus. Big team dual for y'all.
 
I said he is so phony and look at me! he makes Franklin seem like Jim Tressel.

He's come a long way IMO. I think he went to the well one two many times re: negative recruiting and that was the last incident I can remember. I think he has been humbled a bit by not only his results but some conversations that were had behind the scenes. No direct knowledge, but just my take.

BTW, Tressel is a phony...he's just a quiet one. Over/Under on an implosion at YSU is 5 years unless the NCAA decides it isn't worth the hassle.
 
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Then why should a kid come here to play football given what you just stated as fact?
Because zapp, do you think kids give 2 fvcks how much donors give to a school? I'll answer that for ya, no. 98% of them care about 2 things 1) how much theyll play 2) if theyll be developed for the league.
 
Penn State's athletics department is one of a handful across the country that are self-sustaining, meaning it receives no funding from the commonwealth or its taxpayers for its annual operating expenses. Likewise, it also receives nothing from the university via tuition payments, student fees, etc.

Further, Penn State is a "state" university in name only. In fact, it is state-related, along with Pitt, Temple and Lincoln, and not categorized with schools like West Chester, Bloomsburg, etc. This means PSU receives non-preferred appropriations from the state, which have dwindled consistently for years now. Legally, PSU is a private entity. I believe Pennsylvania is the only state in the nation with a public-private hybrid system.
Furthermore, Penn state's athletic department also doesn't care if you rape little boys in campus facilities
 
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Because zapp, do you think kids give 2 fvcks how much donors give to a school? I'll answer that for ya, no. 98% of them care about 2 things 1) how much theyll play 2) if theyll be developed for the league.
I disagree.

His statement pertained to the state of Pennsylvania writing blank checks to PSU in support of football. While the state of NJ gave nothing...it had nothing to do with donors
 
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I disagree.

His statement pertained to the state of Pennsylvania writing blank checked to PSU in support of football. While the state of NJ gave nothing...it had nothing to do with donors
And thats on 17 year olds minds... lol. Youre off your rocker here
 
I'm late to the thread, but Cincinnati hired Fickell, the DC from Ohio State for 2.3M per year, USF hired Charlie Strong, for more money than that (for the years not covered by Texas), Purdue is paying Jeff Brohm 3.3M per year, are those all better coaches getting paid more, or the cost of inflation?
 
Minny just paid Fleck 5 years and $18.5M. Sometimes I wonder if you all are on a ship with no captain. Your admin just doesn't get it.

Rutgers new AD certainly is the captain of this ship and he absolutely gets it. Just google Pat Hobbs and you'll see what I mean. Until then try not speaking on things if you don't know what you're talking about.

Here. I did it for you. Read this and tell me Rutgers administration "has no captain and doesn't get it." http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...s_ad_patrick_hobbs_is_the_most_influenti.html
 
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KBJ: what I read was Maryland got more money up front bevause they were basically bankrupt. They will make less when Rutgers starts making more until it eventually gets evened out.
 
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Minny just paid Fleck 5 years and $18.5M. Sometimes I wonder if you all are on a ship with no captain. Your admin just doesn't get it.

BTW, MN has no football talent and NJ is a freaking hotbed.

I'm probably flying off the handle here and don't know enough about revenue sharing and such but for once I would like to see your admin step up and bet on the come.
You are the reason penn state is hated so much. Go back to your hole.
 
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If in a parallel universe I were a PSU fan, I would have cut all ties with the football program around 5 years ago. The rest, both good and bad, has already been said in this thread..
 
Originally yes, but that got significantly reduced when the court case brought by Maryland was settled. I forget what they ended up owing.


If I remember correctly, the ACC wanted $50 million and began to withhold Maryland's ACC share which came to about $32 million. So in essence it cost Maryland about $32 million to leave.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
- didn't Maryland also have some significant "ransom money" that had to be paid to exit the ACC?
Before Maryland left the ACC (a conference they helped start) a vote was taken regarding exit fee of $50 million, all schools voted for it except Maryland and Florida state. They negotiated down to something in the 25-30 mill the year they officially left
 
If I remember correctly, the ACC wanted $50 million and began to withhold Maryland's ACC share which came to about $32 million. So in essence it cost Maryland about $32 million to leave.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Sorry, I totally repeated your post, my mistake

Hail to Pitt. ( I may as well be consistent)
 
I wonder if either Ash or Fleck would've tried to pass a second time with time running out in a tie game the way Franklin did.

They won games all year by being aggressive. Joe Moorhead is very well known as being an uber agressive play caller.

Is the Rose Bowl loss supposed to bother me after the season Penn State had. LOL
 
Not what I've read on here and obviously not true based on the $100M Build Fund.

Almost all facilities focus for the past 17+ years has been on the football program. The football facilities and stadium are in decent shape - it's the rest of the athletic program that needs a lot of improvement from the Build Fund. We had no basketball practice facility, or indoor baseball practice facility, or adequate office space for all head coaches, or adequate infrastructure at some venues to broadcast on BTN, among other things.

Things are moving on that front, though. Probably the most anticipated improvement will be the new multi-use facility next to the RAC - basketball practice facility, office space, RWJBarnabas Sports Performance facility, parking garage, etc. Lots of plans across the campuses to improve the athletic facilities across our non-revenue sports, which have been neglected for a very long time.

One could argue that the focus on football and neglect of other sports paid off with the Big Ten invite, which allows us to go back and redress that neglect with increased revenue.
 
Minny just paid Fleck 5 years and $18.5M. Sometimes I wonder if you all are on a ship with no captain. Your admin just doesn't get it.

BTW, MN has no football talent and NJ is a freaking hotbed.

I'm probably flying off the handle here and don't know enough about revenue sharing and such but for once I would like to see your admin step up and bet on the come.
Soap on a rope my friend
 
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Is the Rose Bowl loss supposed to bother me after the season Penn State had. LOL
Assuming you had a reasonable sense of perspective, then you shouldn't be bothered much by any PSU football loss ever. You aren't playing in the game. You're just a fan. Your impact on the game is almost identical to a movie-goers impact on the movie except you can cheer loudly if you're at a game which can help a tiny bit.

But you started this thread by saying you wouldn't be happy, if you were an RU fan, because some other program paid more money for a football coach then RU paid for theirs. Given that displayed mindset, then I suspect your sense of perspective about these things is such that you actually are bothered by such things.

So to answer your question directly, no, I do not think you should be bothered by the loss of the Rose Bowl. But I think you are bothered by it despite your somewhat defensive protestations. And I think that you take pride in Penn State's success even though you have absolutely nothing to do with the team's accomplishments and no reason whatsoever to be personally proud of it. It's like a moviegoer being proud they chose a good movie.

Which, to be honest, I never really understood. But each to their own.
 
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Assuming you had a reasonable sense of perspective, then you shouldn't be bothered much by any PSU football loss ever. You aren't playing in the game. You're just a fan. Your impact on the game is almost identical to a movie-goers impact on the movie except you can cheer loudly if you're at a game which can help a tiny bit.

But you started this thread by saying you wouldn't be happy, if you were an RU fan, because some other program paid more money for a football coach then RU paid for theirs. Given that displayed mindset, then I suspect your sense of perspective about these things is such that you actually are bothered by such things.

So to answer your question directly, no, I do not think you should be bothered by the loss of the Rose Bowl. But I think you are bothered by it despite your somewhat defensive protestations. And I think that you take pride in Penn State's success even though you have absolutely nothing to do with the team's accomplishments and no reason whatsoever to be personally proud of it. It's like a moviegoer being proud they chose a good movie.

Which, to be honest, I never really understood. But each to their own.

This is one of the dumbest posts I've read on a message board and that's saying a lot.

I posted on my own board that Penn State actually won despite losing the Rose Bowl. I wasn't upset about the loss at all.
 
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