Looks like LAX will get screwed - Denver down against Marquette
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Definitely not ideal. We are still in the mix though. This makes Albany winning their AQ paramount.
Though if they lose, do they really deserve to be in?
Though if they lose, do they really deserve to be in?
OSU beating Hopkins today would really help. OSU beating Maryland in the final would really, really help.
If OSU wins the B1G we absolutely deserve to get in the tourney and take Hopkins spot. We beat them Twice last year and they still made it in over us. Time for the committee to do what's right after putting Hopkins in over us last year
Stop. We're done. Hopkins' RPI is 5.
We're not getting in ahead of them.
Sucks. Absolutely everything has gone wrong in the ACC and Big East.
We're not getting in ahead of them.
Sucks. Absolutely everything has gone wrong in the ACC and Big East.
OSU wins, Hofstra loses to UMass and are eliminated. We want Albany to win, OSU to win and probably UMass to win to take out Towson. Princeton/Brown winning the Ivy is helpful as well. Anyone who thinks the field shouldn't be expanded to 20 is nuts...RU vs the winner of the BE title at RU Stadium in a 1 game wild card Playoff on Wednesday night would be bonkers. Add 3 more play in games...gets the field to 20.
The window got much smaller but it's not closed. We're still "in the mix" according to someone who would know. Denver is a joke. They are in, but they are highly questionable. As is Duke, imo.
Let's see how it shakes out.
Let's see how it shakes out.
I THINK Army beating ND helps us, but only if BU beats Duke. The ACC is propped up based on the perceived strength of wins against one another. With both Duke and ND losing to end the year I think it deflated the resumes of all the ACC and I think would lead to one of Duke or ND getting passed over.
Crazy to think that if we had found the net just once in 3 OT against UMD this conversation is moot and we are an absolute lock. What pisses me off is that our resume is better than a team like Denver, which does not have a win as strong a OSU, in fact lost to them head to head. Notable wins are over Duke, ND (which are diminished if both lose this wknd), Towson (comparable to Army) and Nova (comparable to Princeton). In addition to OSU, they lost to UNC and have a wtf loss to Marquette (comparable to UDel). Biggest difference is we have a much more difficult schedule having to go through the B1G, as JHU, UMD and PSU are tougher outs than anyone on DU's schedule other than OSU (a loss) and so we have one more loss.
ACC flat out sucked OOC compared to the B1G...only ND can say they actually did their job OOC as far as ACC teams are concerned.
The problem, to me at least, is that if the Big Ten is going to be this good as a conference, you really cannot only have a 4 team tournament. The conference structure puts the 4 tourney teams clearly ahead of teams 5 & 6, and gives each of them a shot at another quality win.
I would bet money that Delany changes the format to a 3 vs 6, 4 vs 5 with first round byes for 1 and 2 seeds starting next season, especially if RU gets screwed over a second time. I wonder if Delany also tries to strongarm B1G influences on the Lax committee...maybe getting someone like Alvarez at Wisconsin on the committee for example. You know he plans to change things to make it more fair...by that I mean more fair to his team's.
This to me is a big issue. Each team should make the tournament. Having the number 11 team sit home without an opportunity is poor management from a conference perspective.
And yea, I don't know why Denver is rated so highly. They beat Duke and ND early in the season, and neither of those wins is look as great right now.
And if you watched any of their game yesterday, no team in the tournament is scared of playing Denver.
Our lack of representation on the committee is a big issue. Unc never deserved to be in the tourney last year, even though they won the whole thing. Total gift, as was Navy and Hopkins.
No surprise former Navy coach sits on the committee, and is very close friends with Hopkins' coach.
That committee needs to be infiltrated.
That was absolutely idiotic...I would've loved a rematch with PSU in that 4 vs 5 game...Delany will change the format of the tourney for both M/WLax to my proposed format after the season. I think we would've taken PSU in a rematch at OSU.
Delany can and will get his guys on the seats. Hope the Pac 12 starts lax soon as we want the P5 to take control and wrestle it out of the hands of the peasants.
Someone tweeted earlier that could Denver have thrown the BE tourney game to keep RU out? I mean, they demolished Marquette just a week earlier, it may be plausible. Play them tough but lose to not make it nearly as eyebrow raising as a blowout loss.
I wouldn't buy that. Denver had a lot to play for, including a number 1 seed. Tierney wasn't thinking screw Rutgers.
Why would Denver throw a conference tournament game to keep Rutgers out?
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Brown came back from a 3 goal deficit in the 3rd...up 16-12 over Princeton with 3 min left in 4th.
Brown just won. Hopefully Penn upsets Yale and Brown wins the Ivy. OSU winning the B1G and Brown winning the Ivy along with Duke losing to Boston U could vault us past them or Denver. Brown is red hot...we played them at the right time.
Rutgers should get the nod for being F'd over wiith Hopkins last year totally unacceptable if not. Though they shot themselves in foot losing to U Delaware that should not have happened
What's the highest seeded team to not make the tourney??? Has there ever been a team with a higher national ranking than RU not make the tourney? I have no idea just recently stared following lacrosse last year
Albany winning is good. They are a one bid league, likely. But you don't want that tested. Albany could be an at large. Best to have them get the AQ so it is a non issue.
Exactly. We shouldn't be penalized that much for a loss to Delaware. We scheduled Brown, Army, Princeton, and Stony Brook. And even Fairfield on the road is no cake walk. We won our games. And you know what, Denver lost in their first round game to Marquette. Their resume is not that lofty.
But Denver has Tierney as their coach. He can do anything. They get a ton of hype, which this year, is very undeserved.
Sure wish we were playing this weekend against someone.
Sure wish we were playing this weekend against someone.
Next year either expand the B1G Tourney field or play a Wild Card game vs the 5th ranked ACC team. RU vs UVA would've helped both teams out.
Is there any chance that if army beats Notre Dane that this will help us due to the overall weak ACC out of conference record in addition to us beating Army?
