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LMAO. Maybe you can show where RU's enrollment is declining?

What is closed in NJ? RU opens for in person this week.
And where did I say Rutgers enrollment is declining? It was your little buddy harping on enrollment which means nothing.
But I’m pretty sure their applications have been declining for years.
 
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But I’m pretty sure their applications have been declining for years.
Rutgers-NB applications have held pretty steady. I didn't bother going back too far to dig up if these numbers are a dip from 5+ years ago but it doesn't look like the pandemic has necessarily derailed applications too much

2018/19 - 48,970
2019/20 - 48,500
2020/21 - 49,560
 
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Rutgers-NB applications have held pretty steady. I didn't bother going back too far to dig up if these numbers are a dip from 5+ years ago but it doesn't look like the pandemic has necessarily derailed applications too much

2018/19 - 48,970
2019/20 - 48,500
2020/21 - 49,560
Site I found didn’t have raw numbers. Just said applications were down but acceptances were up.
 
Rutgers applications have increased tremendously since 2006. That being said, the interest in Southern schools by New Jersey kids continues to go up. I don’t think it is parents pushing them there. It certainly hasn’t been with my nephews. Three of the schools my youngest is looking at, Clemson, Tennessee, and Auburn are at record application numbers. Auburn went up 68 percent in one year. Rutgers is definitely in the picture , though, for him. Already admitted and the recruiting visit went very well with the coaches.
 
Lol. Yes they open this week. Which means it’s was closed. Only you could say everything is open while stating. Something is about to open.

LOL. The school was closed? Weird I guess it was robots in the RAC including in the student section.
 
I probably pay As much or more in taxes than you make. Huge win for NJ.

Did you forget and think you were on the CE board where anyone believed what you said, cares, or engages in this type of behavior because the only place they can feel important is a message board?
 
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And where did I say Rutgers enrollment is declining? It was your little buddy harping on enrollment which means nothing.
But I’m pretty sure their applications have been declining for years.

Wrong, as usual, as always, again. But I'm sure "the site you found" said plenty.
 
Wrong, as usual, as always, again. But I'm sure "the site you found" said plenty.
Rutgers University-New Brunswick received 41,286 undergraduate applications in 2019, which represents a 0.15% annual decline.

Wrong again. You are always wrong. Always
 
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Rutgers University-New Brunswick received 41,286 undergraduate applications in 2019, which represents a 0.15% annual decline.

Wrong again. You are always wrong. Always
Not sure if I would call .015 percent a decline lol.
 
Hey guys,

As one of the founders of this particular Board, under the previous regime, can we keep it that way…Rutgers Issues, as the name suggests. Thanks.

One person decided to follow someone over here and that’s how this thread drifted a bit.

Not cool.
 
Hey guys,

As one of the founders of this particular Board, under the previous regime, can we keep it that way…Rutgers Issues, as the name suggests. Thanks.

One person decided to follow someone over here and that’s how this thread drifted a bit.

Not cool.

Is that how it drifted? Because it looked a lot more like one person made an incorrect generalization only tangentially related to the OP and was corrected.

FYI, it was the same poster who inexplicably liked your post. Should probably clarify the issue directly with him, since there's clearly a misunderstanding.

Thanks!
 
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Is that how it drifted? Because it looked a lot more like one person made an incorrect generalization only tangentially related to the OP and was corrected.

FYI, it was the same poster who inexplicably liked your post. Should probably clarify the issue directly with him, since there's clearly a misunderstanding.

Thanks!
Ummm not exactly. Maybe you should look to see who posted first and who the follower was. Regardless, at of respect for @e5fdny Im out
 
Is that how it drifted? Because it looked a lot more like one person made an incorrect generalization only tangentially related to the OP and was corrected.

FYI, it was the same poster who inexplicably liked your post. Should probably clarify the issue directly with him, since there's clearly a misunderstanding.

Thanks!
The person in question is never here and I haven’t really seen you here often either.

So you should be able to figure it out from there.
 
The person in question is never here and I haven’t really seen you here often either.

So you should be able to figure it out from there.

You don't see much of anyone here. It's a pretty dead board of announcements. I mostly just read but have posted before.

I already figured it out and explained it to you.
 
Rutgers University-New Brunswick received 41,286 undergraduate applications in 2019, which represents a 0.15% annual decline.

Wrong again. You are always wrong. Always
Declining "for years" were your words and that was an incorrect assertion given that you then cherry picked a single year that was essentially flat. 0.15% is literally only 60-65 apps from a total of 40K+ apps. That's de minimus, whether negative or positive. I was being fair in describing the numbers as "steady" over the past 3 cycles, but the most recent cycle of which appears to be a jump of more than 2%.
 
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Rutgers University-New Brunswick received 41,286 undergraduate applications in 2019, which represents a 0.15% annual decline.

Wrong again. You are always wrong. Always

LOL. Another poster already gave the actual numbers, 49k is more than 48k.

Maybe if you had actually gotten into RU you'd be able to count.

Looks like this foray from the CE board is just another notch on your belt as one of the board's biggest L takers.
 
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Kids were online learning. That isn’t open.

They were on campus and in the RAC. That's open.

For example students got to see RU beat a school like Clemson, home to a good many RU rejects who need to show Mom and Dad have too much cash to send their kid to Rowan.
 
The person in question is never here and I haven’t really seen you here often either.

So you should be able to figure it out from there.

Every so often there is a move from the CE board to turn the other boards into a similar dung heap. It's sad they now are trying here after so many collapses on the football and basketball boards. They were very generously given a place to dump all the craziness but somehow it wasn't good enough.

Really EVERY board here should be about rooting for Rutgers, all aspects of it. But yet, when that is perceived by some to inexplicably conflict with some other viewpoint, it's somehow permitted and accepted to crap on the school. I think that's pretty sad.
 
Every so often there is a move from the CE board to turn the other boards into a similar dung heap. It's sad they now are trying here after so many collapses on the football and basketball boards. They were very generously given a place to dump all the craziness but somehow it wasn't good enough.

Really EVERY board here should be about rooting for Rutgers, all aspects of it. But yet, when that is perceived by some to inexplicably conflict with some other viewpoint, it's somehow permitted and accepted to crap on the school. I think that's pretty sad.
Not sure who your “they” is but you and I have been here a long time on this forum and are for the most part on the same page with regard to the overall success of Rutgers.

But to follow someone over here just to respond, not cool.
 
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Honestly, this is pretty weak imo. Posting history on this specific forum seems like a rather arbitrary barometer for gauging the dialogue here.
When you show up just to argue is not arbitrary.

As I said above, you like @NotInRHouse have been around these parts for along time and you both always bring something to the table even if all don’t agree.

It’s a good place.
 
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Not sure who your “they” is but you and I have been here a long time on this forum and are for the most part on the same page with regard to the overall success of Rutgers.

But to follow someone over here just to respond, not cool.

I won't get it to it as everyone knows the history with the CE board. But suffice it to say, it has only gotten worse, and while there's so many atrocious things that have happened as a result of that place, the crap talking about the school is one of the many totally unwritten rules that should have teeth to it. If you're so programmed to find cultural feuds in everything that you can't love RU- for those who claim to have graduated- don't be on this board. I know it won't happen but we all know it should.
 
When you show up just to argue is not arbitrary.

As I said above, you like @NotInRHouse have been around these parts for along time and you both always bring something to the table even if all don’t agree.

It’s a good place.
I'm not sure the poster you're referring to showed up just to argue even though he may very well be an infrequent visitor. Indeed, that poster's first response ITT was to respond to another infrequent visitor. Both are seemingly infrequent posters but I don't think that should have any impact on judging their actions.

I think you've inferred too much to say the one poster followed the other here. One can only be on the Issues forum if one bothers to click on it, aside from putting a "watch" on a thread there's no other global alert about another poster's activity. Perhaps the poster whose motive you've questioned simply decided to jump into the topic with his child being a HS senior (as stated up-thread).
 
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Let her start a business then. Both of my kids I will absolutely offer them that option in HS. Can pay 200k for your college or invest the same in you running a business.

Trades are where it's at though tbh. A lot of my vendors live great lives while W2 corporate monkeys laugh at them.
This is a warped perception of reality and misinformation. There's no one size fits all solution. College and grad school are good for some and trades are good for others. Both can make very good $ and both can struggle to make ends meat. It's all about what you do with the opportunity and how hard you work to advance your career.
 
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This is a warped perception of reality and misinformation. There's no one size fits all solution. College and grad school are good for some and trades are good for others. Both can make very good $ and both can struggle to make ends meat. It's all about what you do with the opportunity and how hard you work to advance your career.

Studies consistently show that those with college degrees earn more over time. For future generations it will only get starker. Some people do well in trades but I am hard pressed to believe that a parent whose child gets admitted to Rutgers, never mind Harvard, is going to tell their kid to look into plumbing. I'm the first in my family to go to college and my entire family was insistent from the time I was a kid to go to college. I know people in my generation who didn't attend and they near universally regret it.

But again this is one of those things where it's now cultural to hate on education in some quarters, ironically pushed by a lot of people with multiple degrees, often times from Harvard and other similar places.
 
Studies consistently show that those with college degrees earn more over time. For future generations it will only get starker. Some people do well in trades but I am hard pressed to believe that a parent whose child gets admitted to Rutgers, never mind Harvard, is going to tell their kid to look into plumbing. I'm the first in my family to go to college and my entire family was insistent from the time I was a kid to go to college. I know people in my generation who didn't attend and they near universally regret it.

But again this is one of those things where it's now cultural to hate on education in some quarters, ironically pushed by a lot of people with multiple degrees, often times from Harvard and other similar places.
Maybe they just never learned how to share at Dalton, Collegiate or Exeter. LOL
 
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Maybe they just never learned how to share at Dalton, Collegiate or Exeter. LOL

That whole universe is something else. Knew lots of people in law school from it. Was definitely a shift from RU! My $.02, for whatever education they offer, they don't offer a lot of adjustment to the real world you're going to get going to a public high school, even one in a wealthy area. I remember in law school in a class on negotiation I always relished going up against the private school kids, because they'd be so lost having to fight for things.
 
This is a warped perception of reality and misinformation. There's no one size fits all solution. College and grad school are good for some and trades are good for others. Both can make very good $ and both can struggle to make ends meat. It's all about what you do with the opportunity and how hard you work to advance your career.

Yes and no. A lot of people think college is the only way to prosperity and it's not the case at all. There is a massive labor shortage for trades where people can get paid really well, yet people think taking out 100k in loans to turn around and make 30-40k out of college is a good idea. Not everyone is college material, that's painfully obvious.
 
Yes and no. A lot of people think college is the only way to prosperity and it's not the case at all. There is a massive labor shortage for trades where people can get paid really well, yet people think taking out 100k in loans to turn around and make 30-40k out of college is a good idea. Not everyone is college material, that's painfully obvious.
Too many people complain that the vocational schooling and training opportunities aren't there, but they're mistaken, uninformed, or ashamed to send their kids there. Every county (or most) has a vocational HS, but it's up to parents to actually enroll their kids. Many don't. There are also plenty of vocational schools and training opportunities after HS, but kids have to apply and enroll. Many don't.
 
Your “conclusion” is not supported by any of the data or articles I’ve read on the topic. It’s purely an opinion- of someone with a proven track record of looking at everything through a biased political lense. So please stop confusing your opinions with the facts.

The below is taken directly from a related article in the WSJ. No doubt on your favored “media” sources list.

“Total fall enrollment increased in only four states: Arizona, Colorado, New Hampshire and South Carolina. States with the steepest declines include Wyoming, Vermont and Delaware.
Hilarious! "Looking at everything through a biased political lense(sic)" should be your handle. It is all you do.
 
Thanks for bumping this.

Almost forgot how hard Team Novid choked on the topic. Funny re-read!
 
"There are early signs that enrollment for the coming year may also be bleak. Only 29 percent of high school seniors have completed financial aid applications to attend college this year, according to a National College Attainment Network analysis of Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) data through December. That’s roughly the same percentage as last year.
The latest crisis: Low-income students are dropping out of college in alarming numbers
Compared with the class of 2020, FAFSA completion among this year’s graduating high school seniors is down more than10 percent.
“We know what a strong indicator FAFSA is of postsecondary enrollment, so this gives us a lot of concern, a lot of pause,” said Kim Cook, CEO of NCAN. “It is somewhat comforting to see that the numbers are holding steady with last year, which we attribute to the return to in-person learning and more access to in-person supports and resources. But we still have a way to go.”


Once I realized how little (zero, nada, zilch) I would be getting for my older boy (he is now a senior in college) I stopped filling it out as I realized it was just a data collection tool for people in my income bracket.

I did it this year only because his younger brother was starting college too. And with two in higher education at the same time the results were more favorable in the "needs" dept as it pertained to aid.
Same here. I never bothered...
 
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