One Cinderella hard to root for

[RutgersMO]

Liberty is evil. It just is. The so-called "left-leaning" places do not have written into their rules condemnation of anybody at face value. And both Jerry Fallwell Sr and Jr are hate-filled swine. Worse than the Grahams. That's a hell of a lot different than things that evolve into the nonsense of "safe spaces." In life, there are no safe spaces, bitches. So I do agree with you to an extent. But again, those institutions are not built on that concept. Liberty, such an ironic name, teaches from the beginning that other people are not worthy. Big difference.

But back to the point. Liberty is evil. I hope the glass slipper breaks and it slices open an artery.

You're probably right about Liberty and their tunnel vision view of the world.

However, right here at Rutgers we have at least 2 professors (forget their names, but one is in Microbiology / the other women's studies and Gender equality) that are openly Anti-Semitic.

Hard to throw rocks at Liberty when my Alma Mater is throwing rocks at me!

MO

 

[RU_Planning]

Liberty (and several other Evangelical colleges) have strict moral rules and dress codes that they force on students. (Curfew, required chapel attendance, dorm cleaning inspections, banned certain movies and music)

Other church-affiliated institutions don't have those rules.

I know someone who went to Liberty for 2 years. Lots of drugs and sex. It is all a facade.

 

[mikemarc1]

Liberals are too blind to see the fact that they are the most intolerant and hateful people of all

Political affiliation doesn’t make this a fact.

Anyone..conservative or liberal..who decides not to root for a group of kids because of the actions or beliefs of someone else..is intolerant and hateful

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

I know someone who went to Liberty for 2 years. Lots of drugs and sex. It is all a facade.

Lying

 

[Jim_from_RU]

Lying

Never mind.

 

[Pancho1939]

You people are nuts.

After you are done attacking the dead insignificant liberty founder please give me your thoughts on Henry Rutgers owning slaves and how the schools early teachings reinforced it....

Or Maryland having pictures of students in black face and kkk garb in the 80s...

Give me more time I can probably find dirt on every university in the tournament....

The truth is racist past is ok religious though. That is intolerable

 

[HeavenUniv.]

PLease,please,please someone move this to the current events board.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Political affiliation doesn’t make this a fact.

Anyone..conservative or liberal..who decides not to root for a group of kids because of the actions or beliefs of someone else..is intolerant and hateful

Such is the OP

 

[JDNB]

I'm a Catholic who despises Notre Dame athletics and I will never root for Boston College, Seton Hall and the rest of the Big East athletics. I do believe they are good
academic institutions that teach & preach good values. Liberty, while not Catholic, also teaches & preaches those values and that is what this world needs more of these
days.

Also, a Catholic, who agrees with you. I like to keep religion separated from teams I root for.

 

[fischy5000]

Academically it's not a player, but it's a great experience for its students

This experience?
The Liberty University honor code prohibits premarital sex, and attending dances. Visiting members of the opposite sex alone is also prohibited. Students are not allowed to consume alcohol or tobacco. In 2015 Liberty revised the code to give students the freedom to watch rated "R" movies and to play video games rated "M". In 2017 the curfew policy was changed to permit students age 20 and over to sign out and stay out past curfew. In 2018 a bill was rejected that would have allowed off campus drinking, "foul language" and the use of tobacco.

 

[mikemarc1]

Academically it's not a player, but it's a great experience for its students

This experience?
The Liberty University honor code prohibits premarital sex, and attending dances. Visiting members of the opposite sex alone is also prohibited. Students are not allowed to consume alcohol or tobacco. In 2015 Liberty revised the code to give students the freedom to watch rated "R" movies and to play video games rated "M". In 2017 the curfew policy was changed to permit students age 20 and over to sign out and stay out past curfew. In 2018 a bill was rejected that would have allowed off campus drinking, "foul language" and the use of tobacco.

I know one person who attended and loved it.

So to him it sure was a great experience. To each their own

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

I know one person who attended and loved it.

So to him it sure was a great experience. To each their own

Clearly I would not be admitted there, but it's a popular school

 

[fischy5000]

What a pathetic thread.

Classy coach, by all accounts good kids. Underdogs.

Very easy to root for.

I'm not rooting for or against them but I think there are facets of the foundation of the univ. that can be argued are hateful and not for the greater good. So the team and coaches might be great people to pull for but at the same time it doesn't mean that when they play for and represent such a school/entity, they aren't also indirectly promoting and condoning the univ. vision.

 

[fischy5000]

I know one person who attended and loved it.

So to him it sure was a great experience. To each their own

True.

 

[mikemarc1]

What a pathetic thread.

Classy coach, by all accounts good kids. Underdogs.

Very easy to root for.

I'm not rooting for or against them but I think there are facets of the foundation of the univ. that can be argued are hateful and not for the greater good. So the team and coaches might be great people to pull for but at the same time it doesn't mean that when they play for and represent such a school/entity, they aren't also indirectly promoting and condoning the univ. vision.

Anyone can find anything about anything hateful if they look hard enough

Nothing hateful about the kids and coach I watched yesterday. So nothing that’s hard to root for them

 

[fischy5000]

Clearly I would not be admitted there, but it's a popular school

My post was actually more about responding to you (who from posts here seem to usually be going to or coming from drinks) and then saying it's a fun experience to not drink, smoke or hang out with women alone. Haha.

 

[RU848789]

Pretty sure educating students should be #1 on the list of priorities of a University. If they want to be a real school , and not a theological institute (especially in a science curriculum) then they need to teach actual science.

If people want to go be taught about their religion that's their business, enjoy it. If the paying patrons enjoy themselves and have a good time then good for them!

But as an actual school? lol, no.

It's a masquerade.

This. Not even up for debate. But then again, a number of the people defending Liberty in this thread are anti-science, generally speaking. Sad.

 

[mikemarc1]

Pretty sure educating students should be #1 on the list of priorities of a University. If they want to be a real school , and not a theological institute (especially in a science curriculum) then they need to teach actual science.

If people want to go be taught about their religion that's their business, enjoy it. If the paying patrons enjoy themselves and have a good time then good for them!

But as an actual school? lol, no.

It's a masquerade.

This. Not even up for debate. But then again, a number of the people defending Liberty in this thread are anti-science, generally speaking. Sad.

You can be pro religion without being anti science.

 

[RU848789]

You can be pro religion without being anti science.

Of course you can - not sure how that's relevant to the Liberty discussion, though.

 

[fischy5000]

You can be pro religion without being anti science.

Doesn't liberty teach creationism which goes against science?

 

[hoquat63]

Liberty (and several other Evangelical colleges) have strict moral rules and dress codes that they force on students. (Curfew, required chapel attendance, dorm cleaning inspections, banned certain movies and music)

Other church-affiliated institutions don't have those rules.

Why should that be a problem? People who go there accept the rules. Who cares.

 

[mikemarc1]

You can be pro religion without being anti science.

Doesn't liberty teach creationism which goes against science?

It also teaches science.

I’d say creationism goes against the Big Bang theory.

Both two different theories.

 

[BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap]

It also teaches science.

I’d say creationism goes against the Big Bang theory.

Both two different theories.

Both? Creationism is the total opposite of a theory.

 

[BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap]

I would think twice about sending my kid to a university that teaches students the Earth is 6,000 years old, and dinosaurs coexisted with humans.

 

[mikemarc1]

I would think twice about sending my kid to a university that teaches students the Earth is 6,000 years old, and dinosaurs coexisted with humans.

I’d hope by the time my kids are 18 they’d been taught enough to make their own opinions on these topics.

 

[Westcoast]

I'm a Catholic who despises Notre Dame athletics and I will never root for Boston College, Seton Hall and the rest of the Big East athletics. I do believe they are good
academic institutions that teach & preach good values. Liberty, while not Catholic, also teaches & preaches those values and that is what this world needs more of these
days.

Hate is not a value.

 

[mikemarc1]

I'm a Catholic who despises Notre Dame athletics and I will never root for Boston College, Seton Hall and the rest of the Big East athletics. I do believe they are good
academic institutions that teach & preach good values. Liberty, while not Catholic, also teaches & preaches those values and that is what this world needs more of these
days.

Hate is not a value.

And hate isn’t a value that Liberty preaches.

 

[Jim_from_RU]

And hate isn’t a value that Liberty preaches.

Are you kidding me? They preach against gay rights, they are extremely misogynistic, and they definitely hate Catholics. I can go on and on.

 

[mikemarc1]

And hate isn’t a value that Liberty preaches.

Are you kidding me?

Why would I lie? Lol.

As I said, I knew a kid who went there. Not once did anyone preach to him to hate.

 

[Jim_from_RU]

Why would I lie? Lol.

As I said, I knew a kid who went there. Not once did anyone preach to him to hate.

A school founded by that dirtbag Jerry Falwell is rooted in hate. His son is no better.

 

[mikemarc1]

Why would I lie? Lol.

As I said, I knew a kid who went there. Not once did anyone preach to him to hate.

A school founded by that dirtbag Jerry Falwell is rooted in hate. His son is no better.

Again, knowing someone who went there..who says it isn’t:..I disagree

 

[Jim_from_RU]

Again, knowing someone who went there..who says it isn’t:..I disagree

Your friend probably embraces that crap.

 

[mikemarc1]

Again, knowing someone who went there..who says it isn’t:..I disagree

Your friend probably embraces that crap.

What crap?

It’s very sad Christianity values are now considered “crap” by a large number of people.

Our country needs religion back

 

[RUforester72]

And I think it’s very sad that folks cannot accept or tolerate other peoples values and beliefs without launching into hateful tirades. It’s why we have lost any semblance of civil discourse today.

 

[colbert17]

Ah!!! A CE thread disguised as a NCAA tournament thread.
I root for the players and the team not for the institution.
Go Flames!!!

 

[Doctor Worm]

Submitted for your consideration - the course syllabus for PHSC 210 - Elements of Earth Science, a survey course for non-science majors. The highlighting is mine:

The purpose of this course and its associated lab is to reveal the complex inter-relatedness of earth processes affecting the hydrosphere, atmosphere, and lithosphere. These processes and the contemporary scientific paradigms upon which they are founded will be evaluated via the grid of biblical revelation. Naturally, particular attention will be given to the Book of Genesis. In the end, this course is designed to broaden the student’s understanding of the earth and its function from both scientific and biblical perspectives.

I consider myself a religious person. But IMO there is no place for this sort of thing in an institution of higher learning. I do not encourage the propagation of these views. And since the university would get some ancillary benefits from a deep NCAA run, I wish them to lose.

If this makes me intolerant, I wear the badge proudly.

Oh and by the way, when they are evaluating scientific paradigms against the Book of Genesis, which creation story are they using? The familiar Genesis 1, aka First Story of Creation? Or the entirely different Genesis 2, aka Second Story of Creation?

https://www.liberty.edu/media/9929/courseguides/generalstudies/PHSC210_16WK_CourseGuide.pdf

 

[AshCatchEm]

The hardest school to root for was fdu because we kicked their ass by 35 and we (along with about 50 other schools) deserved their spot a whole lot more.

 

[colbert17]

People have a right to believe what they want to believe.

 

[BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap]

What crap?

It’s very sad Christianity values are now considered “crap” by a large number of people.

Our country needs religion back

Our country is more religious now than ever before. Religious radio, TV, printed on money, pledge of allegiance, god bless this and that said by every politician, thoughts and prayers... etc
What more do you want? Can an open non-believer get elected to public office? Fat chance.

Look around the globe at the countries that are the most religious. How are they doing? There is real research on this topic, and if I can summarize, you're thinking is completely backwards.
If you're unhappy with the current state of society, start embracing reality rather than superstitious fantasy.

 

[Doctor Worm]

People have a right to believe what they want to believe.

Yes they do. And I have the right to say that they are empirically, demonstrably wrong.