Ongoing opponent watch

[RUChoppin]

Wow the B1G schedule makers did not do us any favors. 13 games against Q1 teams, but 3 home and 10 away ?!? Are u kidding

Of the 14 B1G schools, 12 would be Q1 games if played on the road or at neutral sites. Only Nebraska and Northwestern are ranked below 50th, and we got Nebraska twice. Don't think it's the schedule-makers that are brutal, but the strength of the conference itself.

 

[kcg88]

Wow the B1G schedule makers did not do us any favors. 13 games against Q1 teams, but 3 home and 10 away ?!? Are u kidding

The definition of Q1 is different at home vs. on the road. At home it's games against top-30 NET teams. On the road, it's top-75.

Purdue (38th in the NET) is a Q2 opponent at home. But they're Q1 on the road. Same team, different quadrants. That's why every team has more Q1 road games than home games.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Remaining Schedule:

Q1
14 - @Maryland
14 - Maryland
19 - @Ohio St
27 - @Penn St
32 - @Wisconsin
35 - (N) Michigan
38 - @Purdue

Q2
31 - Illinois
35 - Michigan

Q3
145 - Northwestern

10 games left, 7 are Q1... and only one of those is at home.

This is not how i want to view our remaining schedule. Maybe I should close that expedia tab.

 

[RUChoppin]

This is not how i want to view our remaining schedule. Maybe I should close that expedia tab.

At least MSG and College Park aren't too far? That's 6 of the last 10 which are at least within driving distance.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

At least MSG and College Park aren't too far? That's 6 of the last 10 which are at least within driving distance.

Expedia tab wasn't populated with NYC or Maryland........
On a separate and unrelated note, it is difficult to get to Spokane or Omaha.

 

[bac2therac]

UMass and Nebraska have dropped to Quad 4....need them to start winning

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
10 - @MSU (L)
16 - Seton Hall (W)
21 - @Iowa (L)
23 - Penn St (W)
30 - @Illinois (L)
31 - (N) Michigan (L)
75 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
32 - Wisconsin (W)
39 - Purdue (W)
44 - Minnesota (W)
52 - Indiana (W)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
82 - Stephen F Austin (W)
126 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
170 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
170 - Nebraska (W)
179 - UMass (W)
195 - Lafayette (W)
213 - Drexel (W)
242 - Bryant (W)
288 - Niagara (W)
293 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #28)
Q1: 2-5
Q2: 4-0
Q3: 2-1
Q4: 7-0

Remaining Schedule:

Q1
11 - @Maryland
11 - Maryland
20 - @Ohio St
24 - @Penn St
30 - Illinois
32 - @Wisconsin
39 - @Purdue

Q2
31 - Michigan

Q3
149 - Northwestern

9 games left, 7 are Q1 and Michigan is just one step into Q2.

 

[bac2therac]

Wisky oh so close to Q1

Would like to see UMass and Nebby pick it up to move to Q3

Sf Austin close to Q2 but Pitt very close to slipping from Q1

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
10 - @Maryland (L)
11 - @MSU (L)
19 - Seton Hall (W)
21 - Penn St (W)
22 - @Iowa (L)
30 - Wisconsin (W)
31 - @Illinois (L)
34 - (N) Michigan (L)
75 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
38 - Purdue (W)
45 - Minnesota (W)
49 - Indiana (W)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
87 - Stephen F Austin (W)
127 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
172 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
172 - Nebraska (W)
174 - UMass (W)
193 - Lafayette (W)
214 - Drexel (W)
241 - Bryant (W)
291 - Niagara (W)
295 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #29)
Q1: 3-6
Q2: 3-0
Q3: 2-1
Q4: 7-0

Remaining Schedule:

Q1
10 - Maryland
15 - @Ohio St
21 - @Penn St
30 - @Wisconsin
38 - @Purdue

Q2
31 - Illinois
34 - Michigan

Q3
151 - Northwestern

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
8 - @Maryland (L)
11 - @MSU (L)
12 - Seton Hall (W)
19 - Penn St (W)
26 - Purdue (W)
28 - @Iowa (L)
34 - @Illinois (L)
32 - (N) Michigan (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
33 - Wisconsin (W)
40 - Minnesota (W)
61 - Indiana (W)
78 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
84 - Stephen F Austin (W)
113 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
147 - Northwestern (W)
176 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
175 - UMass (W)
176 - Nebraska (W)
201 - Lafayette (W)
214 - Drexel (W)
244 - Bryant (W)
296 - Niagara (W)
307 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #31)
Q1: 3-5
Q2: 3-1
Q3: 3-1
Q4: 7-0

With no more Q3/Q4 games left on the schedule, if St. Bonaventure is officially our worst loss. If they can somehow raise itself up to 100th or better, it'd move our only Q3/Q4 loss up to Q2.

Remaining Schedule:
Q1
8 - Maryland
19 - @Penn St
21 - @Ohio St
26 - @Purdue
33 - @Wisconsin

Q2
32 - Michigan
34 - Illinois

Every win from here on out is a strong, resume-building win.

 

[RUChoppin]

So, looking at some of the border-line teams who we would want to finish strong:

78 Pittsburgh - Lots of opportunities for them to get wins here, with only FSU left in the Top 50.
13 @FSU
52 UVA
62 @NC St
65 Cuse
79 @VTech
81 @GTech
101 Clemson

84 SFA - Need to sweep the rest of the season, and may creep up to 75th.
190 SHSU
204 @ACU
286 Lamar
303 UCA
313 @AMCC
318 NWSt
345 @UIW

113 Bonnies - They're through the teeth of their schedule, and won't face the top 3 teams in their conference again outside their tournament.
55 Richmond
74 @SLU
85 Duquesne
97 Davidson
157 @LaSalle
233 @St. Josephs
233 St. Josephs

 

[bac2therac]

really would like to see the Bonnies move into the top 100, if they go 6-1 that will happen. It would be huge for the resume to have no loss outside of Q2.

also really need Nebby to move out of Quad 4 as a home win and hopefully Umass but they really suck

 

[RUChoppin]

109 Bonnies (N) edging closer to Q2
168 Nebraska (H) edging closer to Q3

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
8 - @Maryland (L)
11 - @MSU (L)
16 - Seton Hall (W)
18 - Penn St (W)
22 - @Ohio State (L)
26 - @Iowa (L)
30 - (N) Michigan (L)
36 - @Illinois (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
31 - Purdue (W)
32 - Wisconsin (W)
40 - Minnesota (W)
64 - Indiana (W)
92 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
84 - Stephen F Austin (W)
109 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
154 - Northwestern (W)
168 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
168 - Nebraska (W)
174 - UMass (W)
210 - Lafayette (W)
215 - Drexel (W)
241 - Bryant (W)
294 - Niagara (W)
305 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #31)
Q1: 2-6
Q2: 4-1
Q3: 3-1
Q4: 7-0

Pitt's bad loss to Clemson just torpedoed its NET ranking (from 78 to 92). I think any hope of it becoming Q1 may be gone at this point.

Remaining Schedule:
Q1
8 - Maryland
18 - @Penn St
30 - Michigan
31 - @Purdue
32 - @Wisconsin

Q2
36 - Illinois

Saturday may be our last non-Q1 game for the year.

 

[RUChoppin]

Pittsburgh lost by 10 at VTech tonight after losing by 20 to Clemson at home. Though Clemson just knocked off #5 Louisville by 15, so their NET will go up. Will see what their NET drops to tomorrow, but will surely be below 100. At this point, I'm hoping they don't spiral down to Q3.

 

[bac2therac]

pitt, bryant, and st bonnies are not good

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
7 - @Maryland (L)
12 - @MSU (L)
15 - Seton Hall (W)
16 - Penn St (W)
17 - @Ohio State (L)
29 - Wisconsin (W)
30 - @Iowa (L)
31 - (N) Michigan (L)
38 - @Illinois (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
33 - Purdue (W)
38 - Illinois (W)
40 - Minnesota (W)
57 - Indiana (W)
100 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
88 - Stephen F Austin (W)
121 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
158 - Northwestern (W)
176 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
167 - UMass (W)
176 - Nebraska (W)
206 - Lafayette (W)
221 - Drexel (W)
262 - Bryant (W)
299 - Niagara (W)
312 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #28)
Q1: 3-6
Q2: 4-1
Q3: 3-1
Q4: 7-0

Chances for lower Quad teams to move up: UMass could improve from 167 to 160 into Q3; SFA could improve from 88 to 75 into Q2

Remaining Schedule:
Q1
7 - Maryland
16 - @Penn St
29 - @Wisconsin
33 - @Purdue

Q2
31 - Michigan

Wednesday will be our last non-Q1 game for the year.

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
7 - @Maryland (L)
15 - @MSU (L)
16 - Seton Hall (W)
17 - @Ohio State (L)
24 - Penn St (W)
25 - (N) Michigan (L)
25 - Michigan (L)
29 - Wisconsin (W)
34 - @Illinois (L)
37 - @Iowa (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
32 - Purdue (W)
34 - Illinois (W)
53 - Minnesota (W)
59 - Indiana (W)
101 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
88 - Stephen F Austin (W)
117 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
159 - UMass (W)
160 - Northwestern (W)
175 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
175 - Nebraska (W)
204 - Lafayette (W)
216 - Drexel (W)
249 - Bryant (W)
291 - Niagara (W)
313 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #33)
Q1: 3-7
Q2: 4-1
Q3: 4-1
Q4: 6-0

UMass has sneaked into Q3, while Northwestern is hanging onto Q3 with its fingernails.

Remaining Schedule is all Q1:
7 - Maryland
24 - @Penn St
29 - @Wisconsin
32 - @Purdue

 

[bac2therac]

yup put that in another thread...that is really good news that both made the jump. How long can they hang there

going to revisit my thoughts on St Bonnies. Boy that Davidson 30 point loss really is a wtf loss at home...they had been playing so well to crap the bed against a middling team. Still they get Richmond at home next game..that could be a bounty game to shoot their numbers up while also knocking Richmond off the bubble. If they move to Q2 it can be enormous

 

[RUChoppin]

yup put that in another thread...that is really good news that both made the jump. How long can they hang there

going to revisit my thoughts on St Bonnies. Boy that Davidson 30 point loss really is a wtf loss at home...they had been playing so well to crap the bed against a middling team. Still they get Richmond at home next game..that could be a bounty game to shoot their numbers up while also knocking Richmond off the bubble. If they move to Q2 it can be enormous

Northwestern's been a Q3 game since we played them... but they've been slowly sliding. They need a win somewhere... either vs. MN or @Nebraska.

 

[bac2therac]

I wonder if Nebby can move up...tough call with those 2..so many losses between them

I am rooting like hard for Nebby to beat Michigan State..please make it happen

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
10 - @Maryland (L)
13 - @MSU (L)
17 - Seton Hall (W)
19 - @Ohio State (L)
22- (N) Michigan (L)
22 - Michigan (L)
25 - Penn St (W)
27 - @Iowa (L)
29 - @Wisconsin (L)
29 - Wisconsin (W)
35 - @Illinois (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
35 - Illinois (W)
36 - Purdue (W)
42 - Minnesota (W)
52 - Indiana (W)
100 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
87 - Stephen F Austin (W)
113 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
141 - UMass (W)
186 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
177 - Northwestern (W)
186 - Nebraska (W)
214 - Lafayette (W)
225 - Drexel (W)
245 - Bryant (W)
310 - Niagara (W)
316 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #34)
Q1: 3-8
Q2: 4-1
Q3: 3-1
Q4: 7-0

UMass is much more comfortably in Q3, while Northwestern is well into Q4. Still the slimmest chance that SFA or the Bonnies sneak into Q2, but doubtful.

Remaining Schedule is all Q1:
10 - Maryland
25 - @Penn St
36 - @Purdue

 

[bac2therac]

Is their another power conference that has 2 Quad 4 schools?

 

[blockm2]

Is their another power conference that has 2 Quad 4 schools?

no because the asinine NET system ranks Nebraska and Northwestern as the 2 worst power conference schools in the country.

Cal is way worse than either of them as are Boston College and Vandy, yet all 3 of them rank 150 or better on NET.

 

[RUChoppin]

No other power conference has one Quad 4 school. Worst two schools in each power conference:

BE - 72 DePaul, 69 SJU
B12 - 101 Kansas ST, 93 TCU
P12 - 142 California, 121 Washington St
SEC - 145 Vanderbilt, 117 Texas A&M
ACC - 150 Boston College, 108 Wake Forest
B1G - 186 Nebraska, 177 Northwestern

 

[bac2therac]

no because the asinine NET system ranks Nebraska and Northwestern as the 2 worst power conference schools in the country.

Cal is way worse than either of them as are Boston College and Vandy, yet all 3 of them rank 150 or better on NET.

in fairness, Northwestern and Nebraska have been horrific this year...and not talking about Big 10 play, their non conference slates were disasters

 

[RUChoppin]

But again, that's just the NET rankings. Kenpom, which tends to be more accurate when looking at head-to-head matchups and point spreads, has a different result:

BE - 83 DePaul, 78 SJU
B12 - 100 Kansas ST, 87 TCU
B1G - 135 Nebraska, 132 Northwestern
SEC - 171 Vanderbilt, 134 Texas A&M
ACC - 176 Boston College, 105 Miami
P12 - 179 California, 136 Washington St

 

[RUChoppin]

I mean, NET has Cal 44 spots better than Nebraska.... while kenpom has Cal 44 spots behind Nebraska. That's a crazy swing between two different ranking methodologies.

 

[blockm2]

I mean, NET has Cal 44 spots better than Nebraska.... while kenpom has Cal 44 spots behind Nebraska. That's a crazy swing between two different ranking methodologies.

it's because the SOS calculation for NET is RPI style structured on wins and losses as opposed to KenPom which is based on performance/efficiency.

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
10 - @Maryland (L)
13 - @MSU (L)
15 - Seton Hall (W)
18 - @Ohio State (L)
22- (N) Michigan (L)
22 - Michigan (L)
26 - @Penn St (L)
26 - Penn St (W)
28 - @Iowa (L)
30 - @Wisconsin (L)
30 - Wisconsin (W)
36 - @Illinois (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
36 - Illinois (W)
37 - Purdue (W)
45 - Minnesota (W)
52 - Indiana (W)
108 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
82 - Stephen F Austin (W)
114 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
139 - UMass (W)
185 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
177 - Northwestern (W)
185 - Nebraska (W)
217 - Lafayette (W)
225 - Drexel (W)
246 - Bryant (W)
311 - Niagara (W)
314 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #34)
Q1: 3-9
Q2: 4-1
Q3: 3-1
Q4: 7-0

SFA is creeping up toward Q2, and the Bonnies seem to have stalled a bit after a 4 pt loss to Duquesne.

Remaining Schedule has two more Q1 opportunities before the B1G tournament:
10 - Maryland
37 - @Purdue

 

[bac2therac]

Wisconsin needs to keep winning..dropping to Q2 would suck

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
7 - @MSU (L)
12 - Seton Hall (W)
15 - @Ohio State (L)
17 - @Maryland (L)
17 - Maryland (W)
24- (N) Michigan (L)
24 - Michigan (L)
27 - @Wisconsin (L)
27 - Wisconsin (W)
30 - @Penn St (L)
30 - Penn St (W)
35 - @Iowa (L)
36 - @Illinois (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
33 - Purdue (W)
36 - Illinois (W)
45 - Minnesota (W)
54 - Indiana (W)
109 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
80 - Stephen F Austin (W)
115 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
142 - UMass (W)
194 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
175 - Northwestern (W)
194 - Nebraska (W)
222 - Lafayette (W)
233 - Drexel (W)
238 - Bryant (W)
303 - Niagara (W)
311 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #32, and 7th among B1G teams)
Q1: 4-9
Q2: 4-1
Q3: 3-1
Q4: 7-0

SFA is still creeping up toward Q2, but are running out of time. I think Pittsburgh and the Bonnies are pretty well set in their quadrants, barring a deep run in the ACC tournament or a win of the Atlantic 10 tournament.

16 of our 29 eligible games have been against the NET Top 50, and we have gone 7-9 with one more opportunity.

Remaining Schedule has one more Q1 opportunity before the B1G tournament:
33 - @Purdue

 

[RUChoppin]

Updates on our schedule rankings in NET:
Q1 (home 1-30, neutral 1-50, away 1-75)
7 - @MSU (L)
14 - @Ohio State (L)
16 - Seton Hall (W)
19 - @Maryland (L)
19 - Maryland (W)
24- (N) Michigan (L)
24 - Michigan (L)
25 - @Wisconsin (L)
25 - Wisconsin (W)
34 - @Iowa (L)
33 - @Purdue (W)
35 - @Penn St (L)
38 - @Illinois (L)

Q2 (home 31-75, neutral 51-100, away 76-135):
33 - Purdue (W)
35 - Penn St (W)
38 - Illinois (W)
47 - Minnesota (W)
60 - Indiana (W)
111 - @Pittsburgh (L)

Q3 (home 76-160, neutral 101-200, away 136-240)
78 - Stephen F Austin (W)
120 - (N) St. Bonaventure (L)
133 - UMass (W)
158 - Northwestern (W)
190 - @Nebraska (W)

Q4 (home 161+, neutral 201+, away 240+)
190 - Nebraska (W)
220 - Lafayette (W)
234 - Drexel (W)
243 - Bryant (W)
307 - Niagara (W)
310 - NJIT (W)

Overall resume (Rutgers is #32, and 6th among B1G teams)
Q1: 4-9
Q2: 5-1
Q3: 4-1
Q4: 6-0

Penn St (H) dropped to Q2, while Northwestern (H) jumped back up to Q3. SFA is creeping ever closer to Q2 as they head into their tournament this week.

17 of our 30 eligible games have been against the NET Top 50, and we have gone 8-9.

Our next game will be another Q1 opportunity against (24) Michigan