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Should have stayed put and taken the NW OT.Gettleman continues to astound with his stupidity. Picking up extra picks means nothing if you just waste them. Huge reach for a short wide receiver with bad hands.
They needed OL, DL and LB. Not a 2nd round WR at 20.
Loved the trade, did not love the pick at 20. Toney's a slot reciever and best I can think is that they are looking to fill a Beasley/Eddleman type role to give Jones a safety valve. He's also a returner so there's that.
Should have stayed put and taken the NW OT.
I get it. I just don't trust Gettleman with the picks.They had the potential to do better with the deal. Won't know for sure until next year, but they're not off to a flying start.
I get it. I just don't trust Gettleman with the picks.
Bullshit.Toney was arrested with a loaded AR-15 in his car while at college.
I thought the Giants already tried the Draft a Thug strategy with Deandre Baker.
I’m not sure that would be the narrative.Well one downside to the trade - if Fields turns into an All-Pro QB it'll forever be "Giants traded away Fields to give Jones another chance".
Even though there was zero chance Giants were drafting any QB, let alone Fields.
I’m not sure that would be the narrative.
Do you remember the team that traded the pick for Watson or Mahomes? I don’t on first thought
True.
But both the Browns and Bills got their franchise QBs the next year in 2018.
Both teams were immediately successful with the new QBs.
Browns
2018: 7-8-1
2019: 6-10
2020: 11-5
Bills
2018: 6-10
2019: 10-6
2020: 13-3
Well one downside to the trade - if Fields turns into an All-Pro QB it'll forever be "Giants traded away Fields to give Jones another chance".
Even though there was zero chance Giants were drafting any QB, let alone Fields.
Mayfield and Allen were also not great until their 3rd years either, so there’s that too.True.
But both the Browns and Bills got their franchise QBs the next year in 2018.
Both teams were immediately successful with the new QBs.
Browns
2018: 7-8-1
2019: 6-10
2020: 11-5
Bills
2018: 6-10
2019: 10-6
2020: 13-3
He wasn't even charged with a crime. It's Florida, gun laws are different.Toney was arrested with a loaded AR-15 in his car while at college.
I thought the Giants already tried the Draft a Thug strategy with Deandre Baker.
He had 70 catches and was their leading receiver.If Toney is your pick there, you should trade down. I don't get it, he was like the 5th option at Florida.
Ok wise guy, I not as into it as I used to be. With the strange year I didn't see Florida as much as I usually do. Before politics got put into everything, I would have studied and known all the stats on the prospects. He has bad hands, he is a body catcher who will make Odell look like a guy who never dropped a pass. More than likely, unless he has worked on that, but I don't like the pick.He had 70 catches and was their leading receiver.
Tell me you don’t know football without telling me you don’t know football.
Crazy some of the stuff people just pull out of their arse. The amount of false statements regarding this pick is pretty impressive.He had 70 catches and was their leading receiver.
Tell me you don’t know football without telling me you don’t know football.
There is a tweet above that says 150 targets(& 70 catches) with only 3 drops.Ok wise guy, I not as into it as I used to be. With the strange year I didn't see Florida as much as I usually do. Before politics got put into everything, I would have studied and known all the stats on the prospects. He has bad hands, he is a body catcher who will make Odell look like a guy who never dropped a pass. More than likely, unless he has worked on that, but I don't like the pick.
To each his own. Time will tell. I used some other people as well as what I saw when I watched Florida earlier in his career.There is a tweet above that says 150 targets(& 70 catches) with only 3 drops.
Not sure where this bad hands thing is coming from.
He has great hands. 31/31 (no drops) on passes over 10 yards this year and only dropped 2.4% of passes in his career, which was the best rate in this draft class.Ok wise guy, I not as into it as I used to be. With the strange year I didn't see Florida as much as I usually do. Before politics got put into everything, I would have studied and known all the stats on the prospects. He has bad hands, he is a body catcher who will make Odell look like a guy who never dropped a pass. More than likely, unless he has worked on that, but I don't like the pick.
There is a difference between a player not transitioning from college to pros, and guys on a message boards saying things that are just incorrect. He was not arrested, he was not their 5th option.We will see if I'm wrong great. Then to use someone else's words, I was wrong so speaking out of my arse. I will add as a former diehard Giants and NFL fan about half the draft picks in the First round are considered. Busts. It goes down from there. So I guess you could say, using that logic that there are many people working professionally, that are pulling things out of their arse, ( nice British word), and don't know football.
Some of the brain thrust on this board have to get over themselves!!!!!
People would rather be contrarian than look at actual stats and filmThere is a tweet above that says 150 targets(& 70 catches) with only 3 drops.
Not sure where this bad hands thing is coming from.
Did you also go after the poster that put that out there? I was just reacting to it. Look, I wish I had stayed off of here, since it is not that serious to me anymore. I think the vitriol is over the top.There is a difference between a player not transitioning from college to pros, and guys on a message boards saying things that are just incorrect. He was not arrested, he was not their 5th option.
Start the fan club today. You could be President. RelaxHe has great hands. 31/31 (no drops) on passes over 10 yards this year and only dropped 2.4% of passes in his career, which was the best rate in this draft class.
Unless by bad hands you meant the best hands, this is again wrong.
I didn't call you out specifically originally, I just noted there were some impressively false statements about this pick.Did you also go after the poster that put that out there? I was just reacting to it. Look, I wish I had stayed off of here, since it is not that serious to me anymore. I think the vitriol is over the top.
Start the fan club today. You could be President. Relax
I’m President of the fan club of not saying random incorrect things and doubling down on them. Sorry you were so wrong twiceDid you also go after the poster that put that out there? I was just reacting to it. Look, I wish I had stayed off of here, since it is not that serious to me anymore. I think the vitriol is over the top.
Start the fan club today. You could be President. Relax
My buddy who I was at the bar with was saying we needed a WR when we had the 10th pick, then a bunch of beers later hated that we went WR.People would rather be contrarian than look at actual stats and film
Breathe deep. #RELAXI’m President of the fan club of not saying random incorrect things and doubling down on them. Sorry you were so wrong twice
I’m relaxed. Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings with my facts. Sorry.Breathe deep. #RELAX