First 2 draft classes were not to hot, 2024 was a pretty good draft class.
OT: 2024 NY Giants Season Thread
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And out come the cliches.If everything you have done recently is not working, time to try the opposite.
They were bad, this one has a chance to be ok. That’s not how you win.
Here’s a nice fact for you to consider. After deciding that Barkley was too old when he could have just tagged him for one year and paid him while Waller (whom he traded for) walked away from a contract that would have almost covered Barkley’s salary, he drafted Tracy. Tracy is less than three years older than Barkley.
Schoen is a dunder-headed frat boy who’s best friends with his coach. None of it works.
No owner with a clue allows Scheon to keep his job another day.
Younger you mean. And significantly cheaper. Also a lot less tread on the tire's.
I have no issues with letting Bark's walk. Well, we should have traded him if that was the plan.
Not nearly younger enough when Schoen’s reasoning for his inaction with Barkley was that he was 27, only to then turn around and draft a rookie replacement who will be 25 before we kick off our next game. All that’s setting aside that the age concern was silly given that tagging Barkley meant just one more year. Or trading him in the middle of another crappy season, be it last year or this year, meant assets. Instead, he just let him walk after another meaningless season. It was the act of a confused and unprepared GM. I still recall the numbnuts look on his face on Hard Knocks when he learned that Philly was signing him and he wasn’t getting the chance to counter that he’d asked Barkley’s agent to give him. He had leverage and the chance to get something, and he just let it slip away. In over his head. And the undeniably smarter GM in Philly snatched Barkley up.
I don’t think I’ve seen Schoen do much of anything that seems smart. The use of assets to trade for the oft-injured Waller, who was so not into football that he then just walked away after another year with injuries. Then the TE that he drafted wasn’t much of a replacement, so he’s had to draft another one.
As his draft classes age, they get worse. A third rounder who has all of five catches this year. A first rounder who consistently gets beat like he stole something. A second round center who’s maybe average. A first rounder who doesn’t even play, as he sits behind a third rounder who can’t block all that well either. Let me stress that again: a top 10 first round pick on the bench. Another first round pick who’s inconsistent, sometimes playing like Thibodeaux, sometimes like Tippytoe. And Schoen seems to forget from time to time that he needs to field a secondary. He has players who leave and then perform well with other teams, and he’s conjured up another such possibility with Ojulari.
I usually don’t make up my mind this quickly on front office guys, but this guy’s record is hard to deny. And he just looked like a vapid frat boy on Hard Knocks.
I like John Mara, but he’s showing that he doesn’t know how to hire good management, all while he’s had his goofy nephew in the personnel department for 10 years. Imagine that resume: ten years in this personnel department. That should be a jet pack to the unemployment line. But he’s still there.
I don’t know what moves this cast of characters will make in the next 7 months, but I feel like it will get us little improvement in personnel and a new QB whose only meaningful accomplishment will be to tie our hands for a couple more years.
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The OL didn't help
A RB stuck still behind OL who cant move takes excessive body blows while stationary (no give).
The faster over the LOS the better.
For me (and people like Carl Banks) the pre-draft worry was being too heavily muscled from lifting.
The closer the muscles are to their max limits the more power is combined with proximity to weakness.
Benching 425 and squatting 600 means strong muscles that are also close to their point of failure.
That's even worse if players juiced and their overstrong muscles rip away from lagging tendons
Take a consumer car and drive it to its max speed all the time and you'll need a bunch of mechanics pretty soon.
Stanford reduced injuries over 70% when they went away from heavy max weights
I wonder if we are going to get "but look at Jones now!!" when he's on other teams like people have done with Gavin Wimsatt.
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Daniel Jones is finished with the Giants.
Which version of Tommy DeVito will Giants get to wrap up 2024?
Tommy DeVito is the Giants’ starting quarterback again.
Teams need backup QBs that are at least serviceable. None of these QBs is even that.
Well, then, I guess NFL teams are just ignoring the better QBs that you know about.
The only time we saw Lock so far in a Giants uniform he looked horrible. Worse than DeVito IMO. With Dabolls job in question I don’t think they can afford to tank
I think you guys are discounting that team can also just draft a back up/ project QB for very cost controlled contract. Devito makes like under 1m, yes he is terrible, but a back up QB is 5m+ currently.
Unfortunately, it didn't work last year. With Devito, they won their way out of the Daniels/Maye/Williams sweepstakes.
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Ya, Devito played pretty well for a rookie who saw very little practice time with the first unit last year.
I get the skepticism, but I don't see how anyone has such conviction in calling him terrible.
Jones makes hard things look hard - and he makes easy things look hard.
Mahomes conversely makes everything look easy - he also knows how to take a hit.
Defenders are wary of being penalized for hits up high so they go low where they could do more damage on legs.
Jones is a huge target running up the field and I don't see him lasting physically.
He thinks he can power-run like Derrick Henry but he can't
Mahomes conversely makes everything look easy - he also knows how to take a hit.
Defenders are wary of being penalized for hits up high so they go low where they could do more damage on legs.
Jones is a huge target running up the field and I don't see him lasting physically.
He thinks he can power-run like Derrick Henry but he can't
Lots of QBs are better than Jones.
Mahomes is better but he's also vibed-up as destined winner.
You just know Mahomes will bring some kind of magic at some point.
Lots of even good QBs dont have that (like Lamar Jackson).
Jones could throw for 5k and 40 TDs with 3 INTs and he still wouldn't have what Mahomes has.
Jones will always be Eli's lackluster rebound
That’s true. He’d probably have double what Mahomes has. The game isn’t about vibes. It’s about production. But, again, we all know that Jones isn’t good, and Mahomes is great.
