OT: 2024 NY Mets Season Thread
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Someone explain to me why you put in a AAA pitcher to pitch to Soto and Judge. Don’t care if score was 7-0
Do it against the bottom of the lineup but not against those 2 guys !
Do it against the bottom of the lineup but not against those 2 guys !
Holy shit, calm down. It's a 11-2 against the team leading their division and a cross-town rival, and this is your thought?
But he hit 2 home runs yesterday. That would be 324 for the year. I'll take that tradeoff.
The three amigo D-bags are awfully quiet. Hope the Stankees sheet the bed and don't win the division. Miserable, haughty and ugly fans they have. Not every one of them--but they are like the really obnoxious Penn State fans. Nice to see them suffer.
Worst two-game series I can ever recall suffering through.
First Cole stumbles badly in his second effort back from injury. Then Gil goes from most dominant pitcher in MLB to the guy they sent down in the Spring. And suddenly only three guys in the lineup can hit.
Perhaps the trip to Toronto can help get things back to normal.
BTW, I can't recall ever bitching so much about a team that is in first place, with one of the best records in baseball halfway through the season.
I think the announcers nailed it with Gil- the league figured him out. You have to make him throw strikes.
BTW- there were so many pitches from both sides that the ump really missed the strike calls on.
Not as much as water though. Congrats on the deep cut!
Therein lies the problem. The Mets are currently operating with a short bullpen (seven rather than eight). Of the seven, four are AAA pitchers: Garrett, Nunez, Young, and Adcock. None were considered prospects. All, other than the unknown Adcock, have overperformed relative to expectations. How sustainable that is, we shall see.
The only three established major leagues in the pen as currently constituted are:
Ottavino (persona non grata on this board)
Diekman (now a late inning guy)
Hauser (who got the three inning save).
Bullpen by committee. Mets have, or had, seven relievers with at least one save:
Diaz (suspended) - 7
Garrett - 3
Diekman - 3
Lopez (gone) - 2
Smith (IL) - 2
Ottavino - 1
Hauser - 1
Diaz (suspended) - 7
Garrett - 3
Diekman - 3
Lopez (gone) - 2
Smith (IL) - 2
Ottavino - 1
Hauser - 1
Wasn't he going to be the 2nd Yankee pitcher in a row to start The All Star Game? LMFAO!!! Hey at least you showed your face on here which is more than the others that take such joy in the Mets misery. Has the moderators turned off the posting feature in the Yankees thread? Such front runners. 🤡
Bader with a league average bat is a valuable player. He's even above league average now with a 116 OPS+
Nice to see you're using "my" original tag line The 3 Amigos. Calling out The 3 Amigos in this thread was always an issue you had with me doing it,saying I was inviting those douche bags in here, but look who's buying in,nice to see and LFGM! PS. I also tagged The Dead Zone for lack of activity whenever Yankees shit the bed. It's a ghost town at the moment.😃
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How quickly the worm can turn. from the legendary kbee. 😁
I almost feel sorry for Mets fans...almost.
I called a friend who is as big a Mets fan as there is the other day and I asked him what he thought of his team this year. He gave me the old "We're only a few games out of a playoff spot. Once you're in anything can happen".
I called him back this morning and all he said was "Baseball season is over. I'm focusing on the upcoming football season and my Jets".
I almost feel sorry for Mets fans...almost.
I called a friend who is as big a Mets fan as there is the other day and I asked him what he thought of his team this year. He gave me the old "We're only a few games out of a playoff spot. Once you're in anything can happen".
I called him back this morning and all he said was "Baseball season is over. I'm focusing on the upcoming football season and my Jets".
I was away so sorry for not having the minors updates last week.
Brett Baty is destroying AAA as per usual. He hit 2 more HR's and is currently throwing up an OPS of 1.188. I added Wilkin Ramos to the minors list as he dominated AA and got promoted to AAA. He's probably our best RP prospect so someone to keep an eye on who can maybe help later this year or next. Some older guys doing well in AAA but older like Luke Ritter(.859) and Carlos Cortes(.878) might come up as bench. I'd have Ritter up over Gamel or Stewart but they didn't go in that direction obviously.
Some other promotions were Jesus Baez to Brooklyn and our highest Latin American bonus baby last IFA period Daiverson Gutierrez moving from DSL to the states and FCL. If I missed anything else I will update in the thread.
June 26 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
Brett Baty is destroying AAA as per usual. He hit 2 more HR's and is currently throwing up an OPS of 1.188. I added Wilkin Ramos to the minors list as he dominated AA and got promoted to AAA. He's probably our best RP prospect so someone to keep an eye on who can maybe help later this year or next. Some older guys doing well in AAA but older like Luke Ritter(.859) and Carlos Cortes(.878) might come up as bench. I'd have Ritter up over Gamel or Stewart but they didn't go in that direction obviously.
Some other promotions were Jesus Baez to Brooklyn and our highest Latin American bonus baby last IFA period Daiverson Gutierrez moving from DSL to the states and FCL. If I missed anything else I will update in the thread.
June 26 Mets Farm Report (Top 30 Prospects per MLB Pipeline)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
- Jett Williams SS/CF (AA Binghamton) - Injured
- Drew Gilbert OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured
- Christian Scott RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Ryan Clifford OF/1B (AA Binghamton) - PPD
- Luisangel Acuna SS/2B (AAA Syracuse) - 2/5, RBI, .275/.704
- Ronny Mauricio 2B/SS/OF (NY Mets) - Injured; Out for Season
- Colin Houck SS (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/4, RBI, .200/.609
- Marco Vargas INF (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured
- Kevin Parada C (AA Binghamton) - PPD
- Blade Tidwell RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Mike Vasil RHP (AAA Syracuse) - 6.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 0 HR, 6.52, W(3-4)
- Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 2/5, R, RBI, 2 K, .279/.741
- Brandon Sproat RHP (AA Binghamton) - PPD
- Dominic Hamel RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Jacob Reimer 3B/1B (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Alex Ramirez OF (AA Binghamton) - PPD
- Yovanny Rodriguez C (DSL Mets Orange) - Off
- Tyler Stuart RHP (AA Binghamton) - PPD
- Nolan McLean RHP/DH (AA Binghamton) - PPD
- Jonah Tong RHP (High A Brooklyn) - 6.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 11 K, 0 HR, 3.38
- Ronald Hernandez C/1B (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/5, 3 K, .288/.769
- Jesus Baez SS/2B (High A Brooklyn) - 1/4, 2B(2), K, SB(1), .250/.750
- Calvin Ziegler RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; TJS Out for Season
- Wilfredo Lara OF/3B (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Boston Baro SS/3B (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/5, K, .264/.764
- Nick Morabito OF (High A Brooklyn) - 1/4, K, .294/.754
- Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Joander Suarez RHP (AA Binghamton) - PPD
- Saul Garcia RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Rhylan Thomas OF (AAA Syracuse) - 2/4, 2B(8), 3 R, .255/.769
- Wilkin Ramos RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
- Douglas Orellana (High A Brooklyn) - Injured
- Kade Morris RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Christopher Suero C/IF/OF (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
- Jeffry Rosa OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/4, 2 K, .153/.507
- Jack Wenninger RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - 4.2 IP, 10 H, 6 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 1 HR, 5.43, L(2-4)
- Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
- Willy Fanas OF (Low A St. Lucie) - 2/4, 2B(4), R, 2 RBI, K, .200/.585
- A.J. Ewing 2B/CF (Low A St. Lucie) - 0/3, R, BB, 3 K, .231/.714
- Jake Zitella 1B/3B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/3, 3B(1), R, BB, .277/.768
- Branny De Oleo SS/2B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/4, R, K, SB(3), .198/.553
- Simon Juan OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/3, BB, .281/.870
- Daiverson Gutierrez C (Rookie FCL Mets) - DNP
I'm afraid that Brett Baty will turn out to be our future Justin Turner. He's way too interesting a prospect to give up on.
Turner was not really highly rated as a prospect as Baty. Mets should not give up on Baty as he might just need more time.
Last year I was banging the Vientos drum hard if you go back and look. His AAA numbers were too good not to think he couldn't do something similar at MLB level and his Statcast numbers backed it up with EV and such. He got his chance and now he's killing it. Now Baty hasn't shown the same Statcast stuff at MLB level yet and I don't know where he could fit in the lineup but he does need more run to see what he is. Maybe OF or 2B or back to 3B if Alonso walks and Vientos goes to 1B. These things will work themselves out though and could always be a trade piece for another pitcher.
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Interesting topic of the prospects. Next year who do you promote, trade, move to another position, or keep in the minors?
Vientos
Baty
Mauricio
Jett Williams
Acuna
If you’re looking at 2nd base and 3rd base plus DH. (Potentially 1st base)
Vientos
Baty
Mauricio
Jett Williams
Acuna
If you’re looking at 2nd base and 3rd base plus DH. (Potentially 1st base)
Clifford is solidly back on the interstate. He'd better work on his bat to ball skills.
Baty is still a prospect and, just like Vientos, may eventually produce in the majors (though we still need to see how Vientos does over a full season). Second base? I can't see it, but then again I am sure getting tired of watching McNeil. His weirdo act wears on you quickly when he's not hitting.
Vientos at this point will be on MLB roster unless he tanks. Jett is no where near MLB ready and is basically having a lost year. He's more apt to be up in late 2025 or 2026. Acuna will be up at 2B maybe CF or a UTIL INF backup. Baty and Mauricio might fight a IF spot next year as well. Lot of time left though and one or two might even get dealt elsewhere and a backlog is good problem to have.
Clifford is so intriguing to me with that power. Agree on the contact skill but as I've been saying even if he hits .240/.250 that power and BB skill will play.
Baty technically not a prospect anymore based on MLB rules but still young enough to not give up on him totally. 2B is a bit of a shoe horn but they are giving him time there in AAA once a week or so I believe.
Wanted this in a separate thread but Francisco Alvarez is already a boss. What a player we have here and still crazy to think he's only 22. If he didn't miss time with the hand injury he'd be up there with Will Smith and William Contreras as NL All Star C.
Don’t look now boys and girls but the Mets have themselves a .300 hitter.
Alvarez is by far the best prospect the Mets have had in a while. There's nothing not to like about him (though he could start throwing out more runners). That said, he's hot. I'd like to see him do it in the long run before deciding that he's arrived. But I hope so.
Clifford's power is very good, but not earth shattering. Three outcome guys are less appealing these days. He needs to develop more rounded offensive skills. He's down to .179 in AAA. Ugh.
Clifford's power is very good, but not earth shattering. Three outcome guys are less appealing these days. He needs to develop more rounded offensive skills. He's down to .179 in AAA. Ugh.
It's a great problem to have. I think there's another fanbase that's green with envy, lol.
Disappointed with the SAL schedule this year.
Brooklyn is already done playing the BlueClaws down here.
So @Zak57 keep up the good work letting us know what’s in the pipeline.
Brooklyn is already done playing the BlueClaws down here.
So @Zak57 keep up the good work letting us know what’s in the pipeline.
I love the fact Alvarez interacts with the umps as you see both of them laughing and enjoying conversation. I even see it with opposing players. He's quickly being taken notice around the league. His strut, jog around the bases has an old school look about it to me, I can't explain it beyond that. He's a player that makes you sit up and watch his AB's. Not many others than of course, Judge, Soto and a hand full of others.
I was hoping for one more as I didn't get to go to any of the previous ones. Sucks too because Binghamton only plays at Somerset once in August. You'd think they there would be at least 2 series home and away between these teams.
I think the Mets infield next year is Vientos 1B, Lindor SS, with Acuna, Mauricio, and Baty battling for the other two positions. I don't think Stearns is committed to Alonso. I think Stearns is looking elsewhere for his 2025 starman - not looking far, just across the Harlem River.
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