I want Sarah and Fredo to just die. B12 doesn't need themI agree
They'd fit in nice w/the B12
As for Wake, Cuse and BC... they're done (maybe not Cuse as they'd be on the outer fringes of the B12, but I doubt it)
I want Sarah and Fredo to just die. B12 doesn't need themI agree
They'd fit in nice w/the B12
As for Wake, Cuse and BC... they're done (maybe not Cuse as they'd be on the outer fringes of the B12, but I doubt it)
B1G/SEC will add 2 each IMO. Can't see more than that.I don’t think they’re enough spots in the B10/SEC for a whole bunch of ACC schools.
If that’s the case, I still think it’s more likely B12 schools (WVU/UCF) go to the ACC than the the other way round.
The B12 and ACC are the same, difference is negligible. If anything being in the east coast time zone might bring a little more value to the ACC. Just 6 of one, half size of the other imo.
I don't see how there's anyway BC makes itI want Sarah and Fredo to just die. B12 doesn't need them
Just as I thought, this would be a negotiated settlement. Pay the $100M and call it a day.Likely ~100 million and I’ve heard full share upon every
Maybe ThE big 12 won't want to rescue those three programssarah, pitt, fredo all should be quaking in their boots
I wonder if a hybrid with the B12 will be in the works
After these last few storms, I’m looking forward to Florida trip coming up myself!!Just as I thought, this would be a negotiated settlement. Pay the $100M and call it a day.
FSU should get a full share because they bring a significant part of Florida to the B1G. As I’ve previously stated, B1G schools and fans love their Florida trips.
You give ND a call, but you tell them it's in or out by a certain deadline and then we move on.The question now is...FSU is most likely going to be in the B1G as the 19th member. Does the B1G stay at 19 with an opening for ND as 20 or have the Irish burned too many bridges at this point? Maybe get FSU/Miami to make it the B2G?
So 19 in theory could work as B1G has a precedent of going with 11 schools for decades with PSU.You give ND a call, but you tell them it's in or out by a certain deadline and then we move on.
And it looks like the conference will become the B1G-divisions
I don't see it mainly because the B1G prides itself on academics as much as athletics, namely in the form of research dollars. Can't forget the B1G makes a shit ton more money on the academic side with research.Since money and football notoriety are trumping everything else, is there a chance that eventually schools like Rutgers and Maryland will be relegated? I know both schools brought a huge money boost when they were added to the B1G, but the conference musical chairs game has changed so much since then.
Speaking for myself -- I'm not sure I'd care that much, truthfully. Maryland isn't going to be big player in football going forward. I'm losing interest in college sports anyway...
I'm hoping no. Better for RutgersMaybe ThE big 12 won't want to rescue those three programs
They will do what they want when they want, if they want
No one felt sorry for Uconn and its football program
Stop...utter nonsenseSince money and football notoriety are trumping everything else, is there a chance that eventually schools like Rutgers and Maryland will be relegated? I know both schools brought a huge money boost when they were added to the B1G, but the conference musical chairs game has changed so much since then.
Speaking for myself -- I'm not sure I'd care that much, truthfully. Maryland isn't going to be big player in football going forward. I'm losing interest in college sports anyway...
Agree about Syracuse and BC. Pitt will be fine - would probably have been in the B1G if not for Paterno. They may land in the other "Big" and the rivalry with WVU will be even bigger.Clemson is definitely happy, while Cuse and Pitt should focus their attention on bball and non-revenue sports moving forward
I agree, we have already leaped traditional members and we still have a lot of upside. Just started hitting our stride! If people haven’t noticed, then they ain’t paying attention.Stop...utter nonsense
We provide more than many long time BIG members. Just stop
...I'm no expert with the college conference legalities but I'm thinking something like that might go against the league membership agreements and if the league attempted something like this it would probably end up in court.Since money and football notoriety are trumping everything else, is there a chance that eventually schools like Rutgers and Maryland will be relegated? I know both schools brought a huge money boost when they were added to the B1G, but the conference musical chairs game has changed so much since then.
Speaking for myself -- I'm not sure I'd care that much, truthfully. Maryland isn't going to be big player in football going forward. I'm losing interest in college sports anyway...
Exactly plus the B1G is unique in that they have a very specific research consortium. I don't think you can involuntary terminate a B1G school without a massive legal fight like you said....I'm no expert with the college conference legalities but I'm thinking something like that might go against the league membership agreements and if the league attempted something like this it would probably end up in court.
Joe P.
Just stop - not going to happen. And why would someone disinterested in college sports even be on this board -go to one of those exciting Ivy League sports boards.Since money and football notoriety are trumping everything else, is there a chance that eventually schools like Rutgers and Maryland will be relegated? I know both schools brought a huge money boost when they were added to the B1G, but the conference musical chairs game has changed so much since then.
Speaking for myself -- I'm not sure I'd care that much, truthfully. Maryland isn't going to be big player in football going forward. I'm losing interest in college sports anyway...
I mourn the demise of these storied programs.I want Sarah and Fredo to just die. B12 doesn't need them
JDS,Likely the B1G and ~100 million seems to be the price
As always, the networks will determine what schools and markets will add the most to the coffers. I think FSU/Miami package is attractive to FOX and the BIG along with possibly Atlanta and the Carolina/VA markets.Way too many schools. No way it would increase B10 share and it would actually cut everybody B10 share. Maybe one other like NC, just enough to destroy the ACC, and then the networks can spread more of the ACC money to B10 and SEC. Whatever is left over will get less TV money and be even less competitive.
I stopped reading after Personal Injury attorney. Lol.This guy is pretty tuned into things
Nobodys had a situation before like FSU & Clemson - 2 schools that compete for nattties who, they stayed in their league until the contract ran out, would no longer be conditioning for titlesI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Nobody who actually gets a B1G invite make this much noise about it ahead of time.
Your lossI stopped reading after Personal Injury attorney. Lol.
GO RU
That guy is full of it. He throws literally everything on the wall. I’ve seen him from years ago and he has changed his name too. I don’t pay attention anymore. Might as well be like that WVU guy…dudefromwv or whatever his name was.https://twitter.com/Genetics56
This guy on X is also VERY tuned in and has been on top of this for months and months. FSU to the BIG has been a foregone conclusion for a long time. Definitely worth following this guy on X. Very good insider info
You'll get a lot of people calling you names but it's a really good question.Since money and football notoriety are trumping everything else, is there a chance that eventually schools like Rutgers and Maryland will be relegated? I know both schools brought a huge money boost when they were added to the B1G, but the conference musical chairs game has changed so much since then.
Speaking for myself -- I'm not sure I'd care that much, truthfully. Maryland isn't going to be big player in football going forward. I'm losing interest in college sports anyway...
Hey bud - talking college football is always funJDS,
I’m a fan of these off season FSU conference realignment discussions btw. Thanks for stirring it up.
Question: if FSU gets their settlement number with the ACC at say $100-150MM and they solicit the BIG to join and the BIG offers membership with a full revenue schedule of 5-7 years while the B12 offers full revenue from the get, what do you want and what do you think FSU does?
GO RU
Yeah, it would definitely be a case of elite teams forming new leagues/divisions, and leaving some of the so-called Big 2 conference teams behind, rather than simply kicking teams out of current affiliations. It seems unlikely, but college sports have changed so much since I became a fan that I would never say "never."You'll get a lot of people calling you names but it's a really good question.
Conference dynamics have evolved. The B1G isn't a regional conference anymore and there's only 2 conferences that matter. One could make a very strong argument that their media no longer requires specific in-market schools to capitalize on. e.g., Rutgers value proposition was always the NYC TV market. If Rutgers was relegated (or more likely, through legal mechanics if the majority of B1G schools left for a New B1G conferende), I don't see a world where Rutgers is needed for media market purposes.
Is it going to happen? Probably not. Is it impossible? Absolutely not.
Yes the BIG is fine without FSU. But bringing in another quality football program can only help our image.Why? They need the B1G, the B1G is just fine without them.
How so? The conference is already one of the top two conferences. No one is going to look down on the B1G or Rutgers if they go to another conference. They already added 4 respected schools. FSU entering does nothing for us unless their value is well in excess of $100 mil. a year. That's for the networks to decide because Presidents aren't going to vote to take less.Yes the BIG is fine without FSU. But bringing in another quality football program can only help our image.
They/we should find neutral sites in mid AmericaYep agree, not sure how they'll handle that but I'd imagine if there's enough zero's at the end of their paycheck, they'll figure it out
With the talk of FSU leaving Stanford and Cal might just think Mountain West because they feel the ACC will be going the way of the PAC 12 .Possible swap? WVU and Cinci to ACC and Stanford, Cal to B12? Probably not. Makes too much sense.
The individual schools are major research institutions. The money does not go to the conference. The conference facilitates idea and some program sharing among the schools, but not the sharing of research money. Individual schools do not share research money unless they are on the grant or contract.I don't see it mainly because the B1G prides itself on academics as much as athletics, namely in the form of research dollars. Can't forget the B1G makes a shit ton more money on the academic side with research.
Based on where things are and are headed, whenever a question begins with "is there a chance", I think the only answer is yes.Since money and football notoriety are trumping everything else, is there a chance that eventually schools like Rutgers and Maryland will be relegated? I know both schools brought a huge money boost when they were added to the B1G, but the conference musical chairs game has changed so much since then.
Speaking for myself -- I'm not sure I'd care that much, truthfully. Maryland isn't going to be big player in football going forward. I'm losing interest in college sports anyway...
How so? The conference is already one of the top two conferences. No one is going to look down on the B1G or Rutgers if they go to another conference. They already added 4 respected schools. FSU entering does nothing for us unless their value is well in excess of $100 mil. a year. That's for the networks to decide because Presidents aren't going to vote to take less