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OT: Bitcoin, Altcoins, NFT's & All Things Crypto

@bob-loblaw , are you still optimistic about Elastos?
Yes & no. It's pretty much the only other token I plan on holding

The flush of shitcoins is extremely beneficial here as this token is not speculative. It's a transactional "coin" for this web 3.0 ecosystem. Think of it as Robox for Roblox. It's sitting there, has utility on this network, it needs people using the network. It has amply btc in reserves to fund development. Supply of the token is low; 28m, so there's room to easily see 10x+ if it see the slightest amount of attention or usage.

I think this crypto crash will have people doing more dd in what they speculate on which could help here. But the reality is that 99% of alts are going to be useless/worthless. I feel good about Elastos, but numbers are not on my side. If you're looking to trade this, I do think there is potential for this to go to $5-$10 in the next 6-8mos.
 
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Didn’t think it could get worse than Voyager, yikes. I guess that’s how they were able to shell out the high internet rates. Glad I moved everything to my Ledger.
 
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It all adds up. Sam and team have been scrambling for months to cover up all of this mess and try to find a way out. They were reportedly using massive amounts of Adderall and then this happens…
From Sam's security camera:

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Am I the only one seeing that the valuation of this industry, and more specifically Bitcoin is propped up by the trading of altcoins for bitcoin? Seeing that one of the most visible and supposedly “legit” players in the space, who has testified on Capitol Hill was operating a Ponzi in Madoff’s ballpark is eye opening to say the least.

I would guess that if all exchanges were subject to the same rules and regulations as the NYSE and fake volume is filtered out that the price would plummet to eye opening lows. I mean SBF’s $8b liquidity hole is tanking the market by 20%, but we’re supposed to believe BTC has a $321bn market cap at the time of this post?
 
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Am I the only one seeing that the valuation of this industry, and more specifically Bitcoin is propped up by the trading of altcoins for bitcoin? Seeing that one of the most visible and supposedly “legit” players in the space, who has testified on Capitol Hill was operating a Ponzi in Madoff’s ballpark is eye opening to say the least.

I would guess that if all exchanges were subject to the same rules and regulations as the NYSE and fake volume is filtered out that the price would plummet to eye opening lows. I mean SBF’s $8b liquidity hole is tanking the market by 20%, but we’re supposed to believe BTC has a $321bn market cap at the time of this post?
a decade of free-money and bs vapor strategy made a lot of people a lot of money... and a lot of suckers holding the bag......

you now have to actually price in risk..... money is no longer free...

reality calls... gravity is a bitch......

that said... no one is saying blockchain isn't something... so we'll have to see on that stuff that isn't simply s(*tcoin
 
Am I the only one seeing that the valuation of this industry, and more specifically Bitcoin is propped up by the trading of altcoins for bitcoin? Seeing that one of the most visible and supposedly “legit” players in the space, who has testified on Capitol Hill was operating a Ponzi in Madoff’s ballpark is eye opening to say the least.

I would guess that if all exchanges were subject to the same rules and regulations as the NYSE and fake volume is filtered out that the price would plummet to eye opening lows. I mean SBF’s $8b liquidity hole is tanking the market by 20%, but we’re supposed to believe BTC has a $321bn market cap at the time of this post?
 
yeah- posted something similar back on Weds. when this broke..
headlines were a bit salacious making it sound like Tom, et. al. "lost everything"........ seems they lost their equity stake... which is worth what it's worth.... a billion you never had - ain't really a billion....
 
yeah- posted something similar back on Weds. when this broke..
headlines were a bit salacious making it sound like Tom, et. al. "lost everything"........ seems they lost their equity stake... which is worth what it's worth.... a billion you never had - ain't really a billion....
All the equity they were given to pump this BS. Feel bad for all the people that bought because of them.
 
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Get in line - 400 metric tons bought 3rd Q:



Gold has bounced a bit but still cheap relative to its 2 year.

Im no chart master but it looks to me like it might be poised to go on a big run.
 
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Gold has bounced a bit but still cheap relative to its 2 year.

Im no chart master but it looks to me like it might be poised to go on a big run.

In the global environment, metals have to pop sooner or later I think
Chase was busted for manipulating gold so its a wonder just what has been going in that market - "shadows on the wall" and all that.

 
Between all the regulations and FDIC insurance, there is little to no custodial risk in the US banking system.

Banking kind of bores me (dyscalculia can cause that lol) but the more I learn about it the the crazier it can seem (I don't think people even know all that's in Dodd-Frank). People don't "have money in the bank" but deposits become unsecured loans that the bank can take and reallocate to compensate for losses in an emergency? Banks have to sort derivatives (Chase with 65 tillion worth) before taking sorting needs of depositors. FDIC only has 1.26% of coverage for accounts. FDIC might just be an empty fire exteninguisher in a bad crunch. Writers say crisis that almost happened in UK (related to derivatives) might be possible in US (instituions supoposedly checking themselves out). In any case, depositors can be blocked from their cash for months or longer. Martenson says might be a good idea not to keep too much in the banks at the mo.


 
All the equity they were given to pump this BS. Feel bad for all the people that bought because of them.
The only winners in the FTX mess are the lawyers. Between the bankruptcy and lawsuits there will be lots of billable hours.
 

Looking like this was a designed Ponzi from day 1 and SBF used his families political connections to get it off the ground and then turned around and donated a ton of the stolen $$ to the Dems.

Nobody did any due diligence. There is no board and despite a $32B valuation they had a tiny auditor I never heard of. What a joke.
 
Looking like this was a designed Ponzi from day 1 and SBF used his families political connections to get it off the ground and then turned around and donated a ton of the stolen $$ to the Dems.

Nobody did any due diligence. There is no board and despite a $32B valuation they had a tiny auditor I never heard of. What a joke.
no, you just don't understand the blockchain and the new economy...
 
oh, some of the FTX "inner circle" were also Ultimate Bet Poker deadbeats....

lol.......... gets sooooo much better...

 
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oh, some of the FTX "inner circle" were also Ultimate Bet Poker deadbeats....

lol.......... get sooooo much better...

I am sorry but who are these guys tweeting and how do they have access to all this information that is not reported elsewhere? I understand that this is a bad situation but you should also realize that this is also the type of situation where it is easy to spread falsehoods.
 
Looking like this was a designed Ponzi from day 1 and SBF used his families political connections to get it off the ground and then turned around and donated a ton of the stolen $$ to the Dems.

Nobody did any due diligence. There is no board and despite a $32B valuation they had a tiny auditor I never heard of. What a joke.
Looks like they had some help….
 
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I am sorry but who are these guys tweeting and how do they have access to all this information that is not reported elsewhere? I understand that this is a bad situation but you should also realize that this is also the type of situation where it is easy to spread falsehoods.

This info is out there. It's all over twitter.
 
They were promoted by the World Economic Forum. It was even on the website:

FTX was being pushed by a lot of really bad, but powerful people.

 
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