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Here is some more info that may help - It all about the Gov not being able to tax the life out of you as well as controlling you.


7 Ways Cryptocurrencies Enable Economic Freedom

“Digital currency,” Brian Armstrong, founder of Coinbase, wrote last week, “may be the most effective way the world has ever seen to increase economic freedom.

“If this happens, the implications are profound. It could lift many countries out of poverty, improve the lives of billions of people, and accelerate the pace of innovation in the world.”

Coinbase, if you don’t know, is essentially the “Paypal for bitcoin.” It’s the easiest and safest way to buy and sell bitcoin -- and signing up is a cinch.

It’s also a great company, with great leadership, operating on a great set of principles.



Now that Coinbase is growing (although it’s still a baby at 100 employees), the team recently came together to clarify its vision for the future. To encapsulate its mission. To make sure everyone is rowing in the same direction.



The conclusion, after a long and laborious meeting of the minds, was thus:“The mission of Coinbase is to create an open financial system for the world.”

And the promotion and proliferation of digital currencies, the team believes, is the way to do so.



Pros and cons



Although there are a few drawbacks of cryptocurrencies, such as the potential for cybercrime, volatility and an ever-shifting landscape, the pros of a wide marketplace of competing currencies far outweigh the negatives.

For one, privately issued digital currencies are an opportunity to force restraint onto corrupt governance. Whether it likes it or not, fiat flag money would be forced to compete with private currencies, even some with silly names and dog mascots.

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Saddled against fiat flag money, digital currency wins



Digital currencies, to name a few pros, are hard to confiscate, hyperinflate and can have universal access. And as encryption methods become more advanced, privacy can be had by default. (As Julian Assange points out in his bookCypherpunk,the universe favors encryption. It’s much harder to decrypt something than it is to encrypt it.)



Also, bitcoin is divisible by one hundred million. Thus, the barriers to entry are slammed down to the hundred millionth bit.



And with digital currencies, there’s no argument to be had about whether humans have the basic right to control their own wealth. There’s no need to rally the troops and hold up signs and demand the governments of the world let those on the lowest rungs of society keep what they earn without interference -- they simply do.

Having the right to control one’s money is the cornerstone of economic freedom.



And, says Armstrong, “Economic freedom correlates with a number of positive outcomes in society. Some you might expect, like higher per-capita income, life expectancy, and literacy. But economic freedom also correlates with some things you may not expect, like:

  • Better income for the poorest 10%
  • Improved environmental protection
  • Fewer wars and violent conflicts
  • Higher self-reported happiness of citizens
  • Less corruption and bribery
Frictionless marketplace of ideas



Good ideas don’t only happen in the developed world. It might seem so because this is where the wild things, the brilliant businesses, flourish. But much of this can be attributed to artificial barriers created by a high friction of payments.



With the frictionless cryptocurrency space, that’s changing. Today, anyone with a good idea and a good pitch can launch an ICO (initial coin offering) and raise instant money for their project by selling their tokens on the open market.



“In the future,” says Armstrong, “it shouldn’t matter if you’re a hot Silicon Valley startup, or a 16-year-old in Mumbai with a new idea. If you build something people want, it should be available to everyone on day one. (This goes for both sending and receiving payments — such as in a two-sided marketplace.)”



Efficiency



Imagine if every payment were as cheap and fast and global as sending an email. In today’s world, if I wanted to send money to Sweden it would be faster for me to hop on a plane and deliver it by hand.



It’s a joke.



“Why do U.S. bank transfers take 3 business days and not work on weekends?” Armstrong asks. “Why is there a 2–3% tax on almost every retail transaction in our economy (credit cards) when it is just moving bits from one data center to another?



“Each country and payment company is running its own proprietary system (which doesn’t connect seamlessly with others). And the network effects of payments leads to monopolies or oligopolies in each market (which leads to stagnation).”



Yet, if the world’s financial system ran on open protocols owned by no central commander we’d see an absolute explosion in economic activity, innovation and opportunity.



Equality of opportunity



Imagine every single person on the planet with a smartphone in their pocket had the exact same financial services the richest people in the developed world enjoy.



Fact is, traditional banking system doesn’t work for people with little money.



“About 1/3 of the world lives on less than $2 per day,” says Armstrong, “but 90% of them don’t have access to a bank account.



“When people don’t have the ability to save money, the smallest miscalculation or setback (theft, illness, seasonal changes) can be catastrophic. Luckily, nearly 100% of the developing world now has a cell phone, and by 2020 about85% of them will have a smartphone.”



With the rise of smartphones, anyone can enjoy the same financial services once reserved for the “elites” of yesteryear.

7 ways digital currency enables economic freedom



Here are,courtesy of Brian Armstrong, 7 ways digital currencies enable economic freedom:



1. It makes it easier to start a business:Anyone with an idea can have customers around the world in just a few hours. It reduces the friction of accepting payments, and helps companies expand globally.

2. It enforces property rights:Many people today are unable to safely store wealth without it being stolen or confiscated. Digital currency will allow anyone to be in control of their own money (seebrain wallets). In this sense, digital currency will “bank” the unbanked of the world.

3. It promotes free trade and globalization:Digital currency excels at cross border transfers. It breaks down barriers for people in different countries to trade with each other (for example to get a loan, or hire someone to complete a job).

4. It enables freedom of contract:With Ethereum smart contracts, the hurdle has been lowered for people to enter agreements, regardless of where they live or whether they can afford a lawyer.

5. It encourages people to leave low scoring countries:People will find it easier to emigrate if they can take their wealth with them and use it in a neighboring country. Digital currency makes every country’s economy interoperable. With lower switching costs, countries will improve.

6. It reduces corruption and bribery:With fewer gatekeepers and intermediaries to start a business, there won’t be as many places to apply pressure or curry favor.

7. It provides access to stable currency:Digital currencies are more volatile than the dollar or euro today, but their volatility has decreased every year (and are now approaching the levels of some fiat currencies). In the coming years, digital currency will be more stable than many of the 180+ fiat currencies in the world.



“If we can create more economic freedom in the world,” Armstrong writes, “it will serve as a giant economic stimulus package for the world, accelerate innovation, reduce wars, make the poorest 10% better off, overthrow corrupt governments, and raise happiness.”
 
Here is some more info that may help - It all about the Gov not being able to tax the life out of you as well as controlling you.


7 Ways Cryptocurrencies Enable Economic Freedom

“Digital currency,” Brian Armstrong, founder of Coinbase, wrote last week, “may be the most effective way the world has ever seen to increase economic freedom.

“If this happens, the implications are profound. It could lift many countries out of poverty, improve the lives of billions of people, and accelerate the pace of innovation in the world.”

Coinbase, if you don’t know, is essentially the “Paypal for bitcoin.” It’s the easiest and safest way to buy and sell bitcoin -- and signing up is a cinch.

It’s also a great company, with great leadership, operating on a great set of principles.



Now that Coinbase is growing (although it’s still a baby at 100 employees), the team recently came together to clarify its vision for the future. To encapsulate its mission. To make sure everyone is rowing in the same direction.



The conclusion, after a long and laborious meeting of the minds, was thus:“The mission of Coinbase is to create an open financial system for the world.”

And the promotion and proliferation of digital currencies, the team believes, is the way to do so.



Pros and cons



Although there are a few drawbacks of cryptocurrencies, such as the potential for cybercrime, volatility and an ever-shifting landscape, the pros of a wide marketplace of competing currencies far outweigh the negatives.

For one, privately issued digital currencies are an opportunity to force restraint onto corrupt governance. Whether it likes it or not, fiat flag money would be forced to compete with private currencies, even some with silly names and dog mascots.

fa6QMTLRjV-K8dZV8DhbSy4tm-IQLverqZU4F2JwXIiRweu6jH9PoYQmfLp2jGWt05m0T0_3sEiMgnptUvN0Y24puiuEUlREOXWXPCuzPkVjww6pogo9hQl1OrhqFx3d814AFbRn3Mt43pqn37nv=s0-d-e1-ft


Saddled against fiat flag money, digital currency wins



Digital currencies, to name a few pros, are hard to confiscate, hyperinflate and can have universal access. And as encryption methods become more advanced, privacy can be had by default. (As Julian Assange points out in his bookCypherpunk,the universe favors encryption. It’s much harder to decrypt something than it is to encrypt it.)



Also, bitcoin is divisible by one hundred million. Thus, the barriers to entry are slammed down to the hundred millionth bit.



And with digital currencies, there’s no argument to be had about whether humans have the basic right to control their own wealth. There’s no need to rally the troops and hold up signs and demand the governments of the world let those on the lowest rungs of society keep what they earn without interference -- they simply do.

Having the right to control one’s money is the cornerstone of economic freedom.



And, says Armstrong, “Economic freedom correlates with a number of positive outcomes in society. Some you might expect, like higher per-capita income, life expectancy, and literacy. But economic freedom also correlates with some things you may not expect, like:

  • Better income for the poorest 10%
  • Improved environmental protection
  • Fewer wars and violent conflicts
  • Higher self-reported happiness of citizens
  • Less corruption and bribery
Frictionless marketplace of ideas



Good ideas don’t only happen in the developed world. It might seem so because this is where the wild things, the brilliant businesses, flourish. But much of this can be attributed to artificial barriers created by a high friction of payments.



With the frictionless cryptocurrency space, that’s changing. Today, anyone with a good idea and a good pitch can launch an ICO (initial coin offering) and raise instant money for their project by selling their tokens on the open market.



“In the future,” says Armstrong, “it shouldn’t matter if you’re a hot Silicon Valley startup, or a 16-year-old in Mumbai with a new idea. If you build something people want, it should be available to everyone on day one. (This goes for both sending and receiving payments — such as in a two-sided marketplace.)”



Efficiency



Imagine if every payment were as cheap and fast and global as sending an email. In today’s world, if I wanted to send money to Sweden it would be faster for me to hop on a plane and deliver it by hand.



It’s a joke.



“Why do U.S. bank transfers take 3 business days and not work on weekends?” Armstrong asks. “Why is there a 2–3% tax on almost every retail transaction in our economy (credit cards) when it is just moving bits from one data center to another?



“Each country and payment company is running its own proprietary system (which doesn’t connect seamlessly with others). And the network effects of payments leads to monopolies or oligopolies in each market (which leads to stagnation).”



Yet, if the world’s financial system ran on open protocols owned by no central commander we’d see an absolute explosion in economic activity, innovation and opportunity.



Equality of opportunity



Imagine every single person on the planet with a smartphone in their pocket had the exact same financial services the richest people in the developed world enjoy.



Fact is, traditional banking system doesn’t work for people with little money.



“About 1/3 of the world lives on less than $2 per day,” says Armstrong, “but 90% of them don’t have access to a bank account.



“When people don’t have the ability to save money, the smallest miscalculation or setback (theft, illness, seasonal changes) can be catastrophic. Luckily, nearly 100% of the developing world now has a cell phone, and by 2020 about85% of them will have a smartphone.”



With the rise of smartphones, anyone can enjoy the same financial services once reserved for the “elites” of yesteryear.

7 ways digital currency enables economic freedom



Here are,courtesy of Brian Armstrong, 7 ways digital currencies enable economic freedom:



1. It makes it easier to start a business:Anyone with an idea can have customers around the world in just a few hours. It reduces the friction of accepting payments, and helps companies expand globally.

2. It enforces property rights:Many people today are unable to safely store wealth without it being stolen or confiscated. Digital currency will allow anyone to be in control of their own money (seebrain wallets). In this sense, digital currency will “bank” the unbanked of the world.

3. It promotes free trade and globalization:Digital currency excels at cross border transfers. It breaks down barriers for people in different countries to trade with each other (for example to get a loan, or hire someone to complete a job).

4. It enables freedom of contract:With Ethereum smart contracts, the hurdle has been lowered for people to enter agreements, regardless of where they live or whether they can afford a lawyer.

5. It encourages people to leave low scoring countries:people will find it easier to emigrate if they can take their wealth with them and use it in a neighboring country. Digital currency makes every country’s economy interoperable. With lower switching costs, countries will improve.

6. It reduces corruption and bribery:With fewer gatekeepers and intermediaries to start a business, there won’t be as many places to apply pressure or curry favor.

7. It provides access to stable currency:Digital currencies are more volatile than the dollar or euro today, but their volatility has decreased every year (and are now approaching the levels of some fiat currencies). In the coming years, digital currency will be more stable than many of the 180+ fiat currencies in the world.



“If we can create more economic freedom in the world,” Armstrong writes, “it will serve as a giant economic stimulus package for the world, accelerate innovation, reduce wars, make the poorest 10% better off, overthrow corrupt governments, and raise happiness.”


Any reason you didn’t include the link or do you just like to plagiarize?
 
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Representative Sherman of California is chairing a bill to ban cryptocurrencies in the USA.....very ridiculous....yet very telling as to the dark forces controlling World finances....at least for the time being..



Any reason you didn’t include the link or do you just like to plagiarize?

No, I am with a group that we share info but you would not be able to access the site to see the author (their wishes) or it's content. They have no problem with us sharing outside (on limited bases) but wish not to have their name spread all across the internet. We have been with crypto for a while now, as I have posted in the past. If people are concerned with me posting because, they wish to remain private, or at the time I am unable to get the author, I have no problem not posting at all. It is like I said, "Here is some more info that may help." Just let me know one way or the other. It is just like my name is not "RUNVA" as yours is not "RU_Planning", we wish not to put out info on the net about ourselves. I will not be offended if asked to leave, i just wanted people to not get burned doing this.
 
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Here is some other info if you are considering trading. It is a little old but it is worth reading. Enjoy!!!

Seven Deadly Trading Mistakes Every Rookie Makes

So you’ve created a Coinbase account, bought your first fraction of a bitcoin and followed up with half a litecoin. You’re now ready to become a cryptocurrency trader. You fire the lot over to an exchange where the first coin you purchase shoots up by 10% before you sell, smug in the knowledge that you’ve made it. Thanks to an inspired strategy of “Buy low, sell high”, you’re going all the way: the blue tick Twitter account, the audience of newbs hanging on your every call and the obligatory meme car in the driveway. It was all shaping up so well, until you went and committed one of the following rookie mistakes…



Trading’s Deadliest Sins
The following advice will be sneered at by more seasoned traders, but hand on heart, who can say they have never committed any of the following? The mark of a great trader lies in their ability to learn from their rookie mistakes. To become great, first you must become humble, and there’s nothing more humbling than buying a pumped cryptocurrency at the top, bragging about the sick gains you’re about to make and then getting rekt.



Chasing P&Ds
Watching a vertical green candle shoot skyward is one of the most pleasurable sights a trader can see – provided you bought at the bottom. If you don’t have a horse in the race, however, the envy can be overwhelming. It’s all too easy to FOMO hard and pile in with everything you’ve got. Occasionally it’ll pay off; more often than not it’ll leave you in a fetal position on the floor.



The anatomy of a pump and dump.

A cryptocurrency suddenly rocketing in price isn’t always a sign of a pump and dump scheme in place; positive news or promotion by a major influencer can also cause it to soar. It’s important to understand why a coin is rapidly rising though before you buy in. Otherwise you risk getting rekt. Many novice cryptocurrency traders experiment with pump and dump groups that promise instant profits with zero effort. After getting burnt once or twice, most are shrewd enough to learn their lesson and pursue smarter trading strategies.

Buying Into Illiquid Markets
For your coin to go up in price, it needs to have someone else willing to buy it. The trouble with many emerging altcoins and many small exchanges is that they have extremely small order books. You may be convinced that Sprouts (SPRTS) is the future of cryptocurrency, but unless enough other traders share that sentiment, you risk being lumped with a coin that no one is willing to buy, or at least not at the price you’re seeking.



There’s nothing wrong with buying a coin whose fundamentals you admire as a long-term hodl. In the short-term, however, these ‘undiscovered gems’ are susceptible to a lack of liquidity. Impatient traders, bored of waiting for the coin to rise, may be forced to sell for substantially less than they had hoped.

Setting the Wrong Price
Hands up if you’ve ever misread a zero when setting up a trade, set your sell order 10x too low and had your coins gleefully snapped up? When you’re dealing with altcoins that are priced in fractions of a bitcoin, it’s an easy mistake to make: you think you’re setting a sell order for 0.0000457 BTC only to discover that you actually placed it at 0.00000457. Most exchanges will fill your order for the highest bid on the orderbook at the time, sparing your blushes. Some sites, however, such as Etherdelta, aren’t so accommodating. Always double-check the buy or sell price you’re setting before you hit the execute button.

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In November, a Gdax user sold three BTC for the price of LTC by mistake.

Sending the Wrong Coin to an Exchange Wallet
If you’ve mistakenly sent bitcoin cash to a bitcoin wallet, don’t bank on your exchange bailing you out. Some will, but the larger exchanges are unlikely to ride to the rescue. It’s your responsibility to check before sending funds to an exchange wallet, as mistakes are almost impossible to rectify. Other rookie mistakes include sending ethereum tokens to an ethereum exchange wallet, or requesting mining pool rewards be paid straight to an exchange. Don’t do that.



Revenge Trading
You’re pissed because you backed out of buying a coin at the last moment and it then mooned. Or you bought a dead cert – an absolute banker – and it flopped. Angry, you pile everything you’ve got into the next coin in the green and try to ride that train to Profitville. In doing so, you’re overexposing yourself and entering a market that you have failed to research.

What are your entry and exit positions? Why is the coin rising in value? You have no idea, because you’re acting on raw emotions. Revenge trading is the equivalent to catching your partner in the arms of another and then blindly throwing yourself at the first thing you can find to ‘even the score’. 9 times out of 10 it’ll all end in tears. The more you can disassociate your emotions from your trading, the better you’ll become.



Revenge trade and you’re liable to be left with some extremely heavy alt bags.

Overtrading
Just as too many cooks spoil the broth, too many trades spoil your gains. It’s an easy trap to fall into, and one that every novice trader makes. You buy a coin and wake up the next day to find it’s risen by 20%. Better sell, right, and cash in your profit? Not necessarily. As the mantra goes “Cut your losses and let your winners run”.

Selling an asset simply because it is in profit is a simplistic trading strategy that’s liable to rob you of some of your greatest gains. There’s nothing more frustrating than selling a coin at a modest profit only to watch it appreciate 10x. Overtrading to collect minuscule gains will also see an increasing amount of your assets eaten up by exchange fees.



Overconfidence
On a hunch, you buy a coin and watch it double in price over the course of the next week. You repeat the process with another coin and the same thing happens. You are the bomb. You’re the man. Everything you touch turns to gold. On a roll, you pile into your next pick, which you can just sense is ready to moon. And then…and then it dumps. What happened? You got cocky, that’s what.



A little self-belief is healthy; it’s what empowers traders to go against the flow and make their own decisions. Overconfidence, on the other hand, is a surefire recipe for disaster. That’s when you disregard the warning signs, buoyed by a sense of invincibility.

Eliminating these seven deadly mistakes doesn’t mean you qualify as a professional cryptocurrency trader; that’s still years away, characterized by late nights and early mornings spent staring at screens and mastering charts. Cut out the rookie errors though and you might just survive long enough to become a pro.
 
Here is some other info if you are considering trading. It is a little old but it is worth reading. Enjoy!!!

Funny that you post this garbage and fail to add the many articles that have been written stating how Bitcoin is mostly used for illegal stuff. Black market, terrorist activity and trafficking.
 
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Representative Sherman of California is chairing a bill to ban cryptocurrencies in the USA.....very ridiculous....yet very telling as to the dark forces controlling World finances....at least for the time being..





No, I am with a group that we share info but you would not be able to access the site to see the author (their wishes) or it's content. They have no problem with us sharing outside (on limited bases) but wish not to have their name spread all across the internet. We have been with crypto for a while now, as I have posted in the past. If people are concerned with me posting because, they wish to remain private, or at the time I am unable to get the author, I have no problem not posting at all. It is like I said, "Here is some more info that may help." Just let me know one way or the other. It is just like my name is not "RUNVA" as yours is not "RU_Planning", we wish not to put out info on the net about ourselves. I will not be offended if asked to leave, i just wanted people to not get burned doing this.
It’s not like that at all.

I do find it ironic that you are claiming “dark forces” behind opposition and criticism of crypto while involved with a group unwilling to share their information. Are those not dark forces as well?
 
There's really not much to trading cryptos. They're speculative bets, so you either happen to luck out on timing / denomination of your positions or you don't.

That and the shadiness / uncertainty of how to actually do it with markets and wallets and all that.
 
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Here is some more info that may help - It all about the Gov not being able to tax the life out of you as well as controlling you.


7 Ways Cryptocurrencies Enable Economic Freedom

“Digital currency,” Brian Armstrong, founder of Coinbase, wrote last week, “may be the most effective way the world has ever seen to increase economic freedom.

“If this happens, the implications are profound. It could lift many countries out of poverty, improve the lives of billions of people, and accelerate the pace of innovation in the world.”

Coinbase, if you don’t know, is essentially the “Paypal for bitcoin.” It’s the easiest and safest way to buy and sell bitcoin -- and signing up is a cinch.

It’s also a great company, with great leadership, operating on a great set of principles.



Now that Coinbase is growing (although it’s still a baby at 100 employees), the team recently came together to clarify its vision for the future. To encapsulate its mission. To make sure everyone is rowing in the same direction.



The conclusion, after a long and laborious meeting of the minds, was thus:“The mission of Coinbase is to create an open financial system for the world.”

And the promotion and proliferation of digital currencies, the team believes, is the way to do so.



Pros and cons



Although there are a few drawbacks of cryptocurrencies, such as the potential for cybercrime, volatility and an ever-shifting landscape, the pros of a wide marketplace of competing currencies far outweigh the negatives.

For one, privately issued digital currencies are an opportunity to force restraint onto corrupt governance. Whether it likes it or not, fiat flag money would be forced to compete with private currencies, even some with silly names and dog mascots.

fa6QMTLRjV-K8dZV8DhbSy4tm-IQLverqZU4F2JwXIiRweu6jH9PoYQmfLp2jGWt05m0T0_3sEiMgnptUvN0Y24puiuEUlREOXWXPCuzPkVjww6pogo9hQl1OrhqFx3d814AFbRn3Mt43pqn37nv=s0-d-e1-ft


Saddled against fiat flag money, digital currency wins



Digital currencies, to name a few pros, are hard to confiscate, hyperinflate and can have universal access. And as encryption methods become more advanced, privacy can be had by default. (As Julian Assange points out in his bookCypherpunk,the universe favors encryption. It’s much harder to decrypt something than it is to encrypt it.)



Also, bitcoin is divisible by one hundred million. Thus, the barriers to entry are slammed down to the hundred millionth bit.



And with digital currencies, there’s no argument to be had about whether humans have the basic right to control their own wealth. There’s no need to rally the troops and hold up signs and demand the governments of the world let those on the lowest rungs of society keep what they earn without interference -- they simply do.

Having the right to control one’s money is the cornerstone of economic freedom.



And, says Armstrong, “Economic freedom correlates with a number of positive outcomes in society. Some you might expect, like higher per-capita income, life expectancy, and literacy. But economic freedom also correlates with some things you may not expect, like:

  • Better income for the poorest 10%
  • Improved environmental protection
  • Fewer wars and violent conflicts
  • Higher self-reported happiness of citizens
  • Less corruption and bribery
Frictionless marketplace of ideas



Good ideas don’t only happen in the developed world. It might seem so because this is where the wild things, the brilliant businesses, flourish. But much of this can be attributed to artificial barriers created by a high friction of payments.



With the frictionless cryptocurrency space, that’s changing. Today, anyone with a good idea and a good pitch can launch an ICO (initial coin offering) and raise instant money for their project by selling their tokens on the open market.



“In the future,” says Armstrong, “it shouldn’t matter if you’re a hot Silicon Valley startup, or a 16-year-old in Mumbai with a new idea. If you build something people want, it should be available to everyone on day one. (This goes for both sending and receiving payments — such as in a two-sided marketplace.)”



Efficiency



Imagine if every payment were as cheap and fast and global as sending an email. In today’s world, if I wanted to send money to Sweden it would be faster for me to hop on a plane and deliver it by hand.



It’s a joke.



“Why do U.S. bank transfers take 3 business days and not work on weekends?” Armstrong asks. “Why is there a 2–3% tax on almost every retail transaction in our economy (credit cards) when it is just moving bits from one data center to another?



“Each country and payment company is running its own proprietary system (which doesn’t connect seamlessly with others). And the network effects of payments leads to monopolies or oligopolies in each market (which leads to stagnation).”



Yet, if the world’s financial system ran on open protocols owned by no central commander we’d see an absolute explosion in economic activity, innovation and opportunity.



Equality of opportunity



Imagine every single person on the planet with a smartphone in their pocket had the exact same financial services the richest people in the developed world enjoy.



Fact is, traditional banking system doesn’t work for people with little money.



“About 1/3 of the world lives on less than $2 per day,” says Armstrong, “but 90% of them don’t have access to a bank account.



“When people don’t have the ability to save money, the smallest miscalculation or setback (theft, illness, seasonal changes) can be catastrophic. Luckily, nearly 100% of the developing world now has a cell phone, and by 2020 about85% of them will have a smartphone.”



With the rise of smartphones, anyone can enjoy the same financial services once reserved for the “elites” of yesteryear.

7 ways digital currency enables economic freedom



Here are,courtesy of Brian Armstrong, 7 ways digital currencies enable economic freedom:



1. It makes it easier to start a business:Anyone with an idea can have customers around the world in just a few hours. It reduces the friction of accepting payments, and helps companies expand globally.

2. It enforces property rights:Many people today are unable to safely store wealth without it being stolen or confiscated. Digital currency will allow anyone to be in control of their own money (seebrain wallets). In this sense, digital currency will “bank” the unbanked of the world.

3. It promotes free trade and globalization:Digital currency excels at cross border transfers. It breaks down barriers for people in different countries to trade with each other (for example to get a loan, or hire someone to complete a job).

4. It enables freedom of contract:With Ethereum smart contracts, the hurdle has been lowered for people to enter agreements, regardless of where they live or whether they can afford a lawyer.

5. It encourages people to leave low scoring countries:people will find it easier to emigrate if they can take their wealth with them and use it in a neighboring country. Digital currency makes every country’s economy interoperable. With lower switching costs, countries will improve.

6. It reduces corruption and bribery:With fewer gatekeepers and intermediaries to start a business, there won’t be as many places to apply pressure or curry favor.

7. It provides access to stable currency:Digital currencies are more volatile than the dollar or euro today, but their volatility has decreased every year (and are now approaching the levels of some fiat currencies). In the coming years, digital currency will be more stable than many of the 180+ fiat currencies in the world.



“If we can create more economic freedom in the world,” Armstrong writes, “it will serve as a giant economic stimulus package for the world, accelerate innovation, reduce wars, make the poorest 10% better off, overthrow corrupt governments, and raise happiness.”

Ha. I love that the title is how great "cryptocurrency" is but the the first words are "digital currency".

We already have a digital currency.
But keep on confusing the terms.

I won't respond to most of the stupid points in that article but this is my favorite:


"Imagine if every payment were as cheap and fast and global as sending an email. In today’s world, if I wanted to send money to Sweden it would be faster for me to hop on a plane and deliver it by hand."


Seriously?
Is "today's world" actually 1973?

But yup, these "experts" have it all figured out.
 
No worries, I have moved on. It is just information from different view points.There is a ton of stuff out there. Read as much as you can and make a logical decision for yourself.
 
"I think most people trust the US Government to manage currency. They have a successful track record that is more than 200 years old."

They have a successful track record? I would counter that any success has been in spite of the cartel known as the Federal Reserve.
bravo.....the truth be told
 
I agree - say a company that makes toilet paper is worth something - the paper - the machines - the employees are worth something.

Say that company is valued in US dollars and the dollar goes to zero - what is that company worth? Sure the machines - the stock paper is worth something but what is it worth?

So what you guys need to learn is nominal confusion -

In 1913 the Treasury printed a $20 note
in 2017 the Treasury printed a $20 note

Now in 1913 what could you buy with that 20 bucks - name it half a car - 50 hair cuts - 20 lap dances?

Now in 2017 - what does 20 bucks buy you - a taxi ride - 1 hair cut - a lap dance by a fat chick?

That's how they get you - in 1913 that 1 dollar piece of paper would buy you 100 penny's of value now that 1 dollar of value buys you 2 cents of value

Do you get what I mean - they never change the value of the 20 dollar note but they change what you get for that's how the Bankers F U over.
Inflation - peeps!

So if you have an honest currency - 1 BTC for 1 Lap dance in 1913 and there are a finite amount of currency - so 1 BTC for 1 Lap dance in 2017.

No inflation - sorry i forget what I was saying but thats how these Bankers make their money. In the dark - they should be all taken out and killed.
imo
im sure glad, i didn't have to type all of what you posted....keep dem truth bombs coming
 
I have transferred funds from my Chase account to my Key account and it takes 5-7 days. Paypal to my bank account is 24-48 hours. Not sure why. The banks sure do take the money out of my account immediately when I spend it.

And credit cards take 2-4% of every transaction. No fee on bitcoin or litecoin. Businesses would be wise to adopt no?



Seriously?
Is "today's world" actually 1973?

But yup, these "experts" have it all figured out.
 
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This came out last week, and thanks to my having pre-ordered it and having just finished a different book this morning, tonight I will begin reading this book by Ben Mezrich, who is one of my favorites contemporary authors. Already read "Bringing Down The House," "Accidental Billionaires," and "Woolly" by him, and am looking forward to this one.

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I have transferred funds from my Chase account to my Key account and it takes 5-7 days. Paypal to my bank account is 24-48 hours. Not sure why. The banks sure do take the money out of my account immediately when I spend it.

And credit cards take 2-4% of every transaction. No fee on bitcoin or litecoin. Businesses would be wise to adopt no?
All business owners have to do is adjust his prices according to the market movement and cover the bid ask spread to save that 2 - 3% fee.
 
gold and silver has been removed since 1933 what backs the u.s currency?

I hate this question because its lazy and simplistic.

The short answer is that it's backed by the value of the tax payer and assumed future tax earnings collected by the US along with the intellectual and financial capital it generates. (i.e. the US based corporations that drive the economy and produce significant revenue).

If you know anything about cash flow lending, you lend against the EBITDA / cash flow of a company on a 5-year projection. So if you are Microsoft, Verizon or a large multi-national investment grade corporation (which the US essentially is), you are not taking out a multi-billion CP backstop facility and giving up all assets as your collateral. You get a great price on that debt because there is a clear assumption based on the value of that obligor and its 5-year financial projections that said company isn't going bankrupt any time soon and can handle the debt. Same thing with the US. We all know the dollar isn't backed by any specific collateral, but most people feel somewhat confident that "America" as defined by the large pool of taxpaying individuals along with the corporate taxpayer and the industries they support is a solid risk profile from a cash flow perspective.

Now the amount of dollars we actually produce and the level of debt we are creating is an entirely different animal and worth a large discussion. From that standpoint, I tend to agree that the dollar is at risk long term based off the debt we are creating and the watering down of the taxpayer with handouts etc. But this idea that fiat money is a ponzi scheme or "worthless" because it's not backed by some silly metal is a weak and lazy argument. That is the difference with a banana republic or a smaller economy. They don't have the industry or intellectual capital that drives future technology and capital investment so their paper currency doesn't hold the same weight as the US.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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I have transferred funds from my Chase account to my Key account and it takes 5-7 days. Paypal to my bank account is 24-48 hours. Not sure why. The banks sure do take the money out of my account immediately when I spend it.

And credit cards take 2-4% of every transaction. No fee on bitcoin or litecoin. Businesses would be wise to adopt no?
If you were a business owner, would you prefer to pay the 2-4% credit fee (that you've always paid - it's effectively built into how you operate your business), or save the 2-4% of expense at the risk of your receivables value jumping / plunging ~ 20% given coins volatility?
 
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I hate this question because its lazy and simplistic.

The short answer is that it's backed by the value of the tax payer and assumed future tax earnings collected by the US along with the intellectual and financial capital it generates. (i.e. the US based corporations that drive the economy and produce significant revenue).

If you know anything about cash flow lending, you lend against the EBITDA / cash flow of a company on a 5-year projection. So if you are Microsoft, Verizon or a large multi-national investment grade corporation (which the US essentially is), you are not taking out a multi-billion CP backstop facility and giving up all assets as your collateral. You get a great price on that debt because there is a clear assumption based on the value of that obligor and its 5-year financial projections that said company isn't going bankrupt any time soon and can handle the debt.

lazy you bloodclaate lol ok
 
Possibly. But it certainly won't be Bitcoin or any other similar cybercurrencies in existence today. Probably won't even be blockchain based.

If there are digital currencies, most likely they will be digital versions of existing "fiat currency".

First thing that must happen is the global debt must be wiped out....what does that mean everybody in the Fiat Currency System must go to 0. Your stocks are wiped out - your bonds are gone - your bank account is 0. No pensions - no Social Security.

That is a reset - every paper instrument is gone.

Do you really think people would be interested in a digital crypto currency called the US Dollar Cryptocoin...after they just took it up the ass with the US Dollar...lol of course not.

I don't how this is going to work out but 100 percent for sure it's going to be ugly and a shit show.

They are keeping Bitcoin going for a reason - they could have killed it years ago.

imo - Bitcoin is not meant to be a currency of exchange - it will traded among countries like Bonds today and lesser cryptos will used for everyday transactions like Litecoin cause they are faster transactions would take over for Visa and Mastercard.

I really think Bitcoin will be worth a million dollars before its all said and done and you probably won't want to own it at that point cause you probably would be killed for owning 1 by the CIA or some other random government.

The trick right now is to pick the winners - I don't think you could go wrong with any of the top 10 coins in Coin Market Cap except for the one the NY State Attorney General is going after is that Tether and Binance I think is a scam operation?

But Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin not going anywhere for a long time to come.

https://coinmarketcap.com/
 
what if the business owner immediately converts the coins to $? I'm just asking a question not advocating for bitcoin btw lol

If you were a business owner, would you prefer to pay the 2-4% credit fee (that you've always paid - it's effectively built into how you operate your business), or save the 2-4% of expense at the risk of your receivables value jumping / plunging ~ 20% given coins volatility?
 
a) "digital currency" can mean anything...... I use Paypal-- is that digital currency? probably not what you think you mean...

b) if you think governments like China and US are going to give-up control easily... you are very mistaken.... what may "evolve' is just more government control of "electronic exchanges for goods"... which will be less privacy/freedom... not "more"...

c) the morning quantum computing goes live............ 90% of the current blockchain platforms will be obsolete
Paypal and venmo are NOT digital currency they are tied to your bank account. Digital currency is yours and maintained by you and not any bank
 
First thing that must happen is the global debt must be wiped out....what does that mean everybody in the Fiat Currency System must go to 0. Your stocks are wiped out - your bonds are gone - your bank account is 0. No pensions - no Social Security.

That is a reset - every paper instrument is gone.

Do you really think people would be interested in a digital crypto currency called the US Dollar Cryptocoin...after they just took it up the ass with the US Dollar...lol of course not.

I don't how this is going to work out but 100 percent for sure it's going to be ugly and a shit show.

They are keeping Bitcoin going for a reason - they could have killed it years ago.

imo - Bitcoin is not meant to be a currency of exchange - it will traded among countries like Bonds today and lesser cryptos will used for everyday transactions like Litecoin cause they are faster transactions would take over for Visa and Mastercard.

I really think Bitcoin will be worth a million dollars before its all said and done and you probably won't want to own it at that point cause you probably would be killed for owning 1 by the CIA or some other random government.

The trick right now is to pick the winners - I don't think you could go wrong with any of the top 10 coins in Coin Market Cap except for the one the NY State Attorney General is going after is that Tether and Binance I think is a scam operation?

But Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin not going anywhere for a long time to come.

https://coinmarketcap.com/

The chance of that happening is about the same as winning Mega Millions. And if it did happen bitcoin would be as worthless as any other currency.
 
Fiat is going to phase out and go away whether it's 20 or 30yrs from now it will happen. Fiat money is archaic and will not be able to sustain just like every other thing in th it s world that has succumbed to technological advances. It will happen fast. 25 yrs ago there were no cell phones now they control the world

Take one look at the internet when it came out everyone said it was stupid and would fail....there was no content

They built hardware software and content it's the most powerful tool in the world. The only thing that does not change in this world is that nothing stays the same
 
Paypal and venmo are NOT digital currency they are tied to your bank account. Digital currency is yours and maintained by you and not any bank

Not sure you are grasping the difference between fiat currency and digital currency.

Nobody is arguing against the elimination of fiat currency (paper and coins).
It's been happening for decades.

Bitcoin (and other "cyrptocurrencys") are cureenctly investment vehicles and not digital currency.

What's the difference between a poker chip and a Bitcoin in practice?
They are both a store of value but can't be used for widespread unless they are exchanged for actual currency.
 
And the reason "crypto currency" will never take off is precisely because it is an investment vehicle first and not a currency.

As you (or someone) said - 1 Bitcoin will be worth X by the end of the year....

So then why would anyone either use it for purchase anything?
Or accept it with such an unknown value?
 
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If you buy a pizza from me, and want to pay with 0.01 bitcoin (without going through a clearinghouse, which is essentially the same as using PayPal or Visa to clear the transaction), how long does it take me to verify that you actually paid me? How much is the transaction fee?
 
Not sure you are grasping the difference between fiat currency and digital currency.

Nobody is arguing against the elimination of fiat currency (paper and coins).
It's been happening for decades.

Bitcoin (and other "cyrptocurrencys") are cureenctly investment vehicles and not digital currency.

What's the difference between a poker chip and a Bitcoin in practice?
They are both a store of value but can't be used for widespread unless they are exchanged for actual currency.
That's a great answer in theory but there is a SHITLOAD of building going on behind the scenes. The infrastructure is being built the same way the infrastructure was built for the internet. It's not if but when.

The Genie is out of the bottle and he is not going back in. The change will happen over a couple generations. My kids will be heavily involved and their kids will not know what fiat is the same way my kids have no idea what Atari or life w/o cable tv or cell phones.
 
Bitcoin is going to run this week over 8K solid now - after Thursday this week may get a beat down before Thursday but will run from June 1st to the end of the year...name a price 20 - 100K by the end of year...

I'd say a closer to a 100K by year end but you won't be able to touch it - go now! lt's running now and wont come down this year.

Peace out


https://coinmarketcap.com/

lol
 
Bitcoin is going to run this week over 8K solid now - after Thursday this week may get a beat down before Thursday but will run from June 1st to the end of the year...name a price 20 - 100K by the end of year...

I'd say a closer to a 100K by year end but you won't be able to touch it - go now! lt's running now and wont come down this year.

Peace out


https://coinmarketcap.com/

From 8800 when you posted this to 7700 at the moment. So much for running from June 1 until the end of the year. If you had waited 5 days your entry level would have been 12% lower. But rush right out. I believe I heard this before at an about a 120% higher entry point.
 
Not sure you are grasping the difference between fiat currency and digital currency.

Nobody is arguing against the elimination of fiat currency (paper and coins).
It's been happening for decades.

Bitcoin (and other "cyrptocurrencys") are cureenctly investment vehicles and not digital currency.

What's the difference between a poker chip and a Bitcoin in practice?
They are both a store of value but can't be used for widespread unless they are exchanged for actual currency.
The one change I would make to your analysis is that bitcoins needn't be exchanged for currency, the idea is for them to also be exchanged/exchangeable for goods and/or services. They are presently an investment since they fluctuate (more aggressively than the US dollar does against other currencies), and are a form of currency since they may be easily (though not readily, not yet) be exchanged for goods or services. I say "easily" because emailing bitcoins to someone is easy to do as long as they accept it/them for whatever goods or service(s) they are exchanging. In turn, their bitcoins may go up or down. The volatility in the value of a bitcoin will always be there since it is a system based on a limited supply (IIRC 21 million bitcoins), which may be divided into partial bitcoins. Net-net is I think bitcoins are currency and an investment.

The concept of money is a broad topic, and fascinating. I read a book about ten years ago titled "Biography Of The Dollar," and it made me wish I'd taken more economics courses.

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The one change I would make to your analysis is that bitcoins needn't be exchanged for currency, the idea is for them to also be exchanged/exchangeable for goods and/or services. They are presently an investment since they fluctuate (more aggressively than the US dollar does against other currencies), and are a form of currency since they may be easily (though not readily, not yet) be exchanged for goods or services. I say "easily" because emailing bitcoins to someone is easy to do as long as they accept it/them for whatever goods or service(s) they are exchanging. In turn, their bitcoins may go up or down. The volatility in the value of a bitcoin will always be there since it is a system based on a limited supply (IIRC 21 million bitcoins), which may be divided into partial bitcoins. Net-net is I think bitcoins are currency and an investment.

The concept of money is a broad topic, and fascinating. I read a book about ten years ago titled "Biography Of The Dollar," and it made me wish I'd taken more economics courses.

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But in everyday use - you HAVE to exchange it.
That’s why it is currently nothing more than a poker chip.
Or buying a stock in a company.
Sure you could exchange it for a very very limited list of items, but then it is immediately converted into an actual currency.

The volatility in value is the reason it will never be a widespread currency.

If you owned a business - would you accept Bitcoin?
What If I said that you had to keep it as Bitcoin for a year?

Is the grocery store going to accept a currency that could drop in value over night?

Want to get by your employer in only Bitcoin?

This is why it never be more than a poker chip or a share of stock.

You’re either a stable currency for exchange of goods or an investment vehicle with fluctuating value.
Can’t be both.

At least in a barter system, the “currency” (a chicken) has a physical value.
Even fiat currency you could at least burn for heat.
 
That's a great answer in theory but there is a SHITLOAD of building going on behind the scenes. The infrastructure is being built the same way the infrastructure was built for the internet. It's not if but when.

The Genie is out of the bottle and he is not going back in. The change will happen over a couple generations. My kids will be heavily involved and their kids will not know what fiat is the same way my kids have no idea what Atari or life w/o cable tv or cell phones.

Again you completely miss the point - my guess intentionally and not out of ignorance.

Digital currency (digital US Dollars) and the end of physical dollars and coins has ZERO to do with “cryptocurrency” taking over.

My kids won’t know what fiat money is because they will be using their phones to digitally pay with US Dollars.

Are “crypto newspapers” putting physical newspapers out of business?

Stop trying to conflate the two - it’s not working.
 
Again you completely miss the point - my guess intentionally and not out of ignorance.

Digital currency (digital US Dollars) and the end of physical dollars and coins has ZERO to do with “cryptocurrency” taking over.

My kids won’t know what fiat money is because they will be using their phones to digitally pay with US Dollars.

Are “crypto newspapers” putting physical newspapers out of business?

Stop trying to conflate the two - it’s not working.
Lol try doing some research you may learn about the product and the projects
 
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Lol try doing some research you may learn about the product and the projects

More than willing to.
Have any suggestions? Clearly what I’ve read is “lacking”.

I actually just listened to a podcast with someone who created a social media site and created their own token on the Ethereum platform (because let’s all make our own currency - that’s a sustainable model)

The best part was the comedian/host saying “ok you give out tokens but what can I get with them? Like can I buy anything?”

The response “ummm...well....nothing really. You can cash them in on our website to boost views on the video you posted.”

He even said the #fakenews that “you can pay your taxes with Bitcoin”.
 
Anybody still watching?

BTC up $1191.09 this week
LTC up $20.02 this week

Good times!

Maybe I'm just not understanding what a "currency" is.

If I agreed to buy a product for 1 BTC last week.
I exachange that BTC for the product.
I've already lost USD $1100 worth of value?
Because now that BTC is worth so much more now?


Sounds like "good times!" for anyone using BTC as anything other than an actual currency.
 
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