OT- Coconut water

[BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap]

That makes even less sense ... sugar's okay, but not in something with actual nutritional value. You can avoid concentrated ingestion of simple sugars found in fruit juice in the multiple other ways I already listed. Or cower from the fruit juice aisle in fear; it's the same to me.

- BUT -

I just dropped a laundry list of reputable sources, from the government to Harvard, that say that fruit juice, in moderation, is good for you.

After joking about my info being outdated, all you've provided is a 90-minute video that you knew no one was going to watch. It's from seven years ago, which can also be interpreted as ... several years before pretty much everything I linked. It's hosted by a guy that has multiple anti-sugar "latest health craze" books to hawk. HEY! There's even a link to his book in the YouTube description - how convenient! That description doesn't even support your extreme view: "He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin.

You can do what you want in your own life, but you officially lost this argument.

Only in your world. I assume you're talking about fruit juice having "actual nutritional value". All juice is pasteurized destroying any beneficial enzymes or vitamins. Most are then fortified with synthetic vitamins and whatever else they want to add to prolong shelf life. The jury is still out on the benefit/harm of synthetic vitamins. If you insist that a concoction of lifeless liquid laced with synthetic vitamins, preservatives, and highly concentrated simple sugars are nutritional, we'll just have to disagree.

 

[FanuSanu52]

Only in your world. I assume you're talking about fruit juice having "actual nutritional value". All juice is pasteurized destroying any beneficial enzymes or vitamins. Most are then fortified with synthetic vitamins and whatever else they want to add to prolong shelf life. The jury is still out on the benefit/harm of synthetic vitamins. If you insist that a concoction of lifeless liquid laced with synthetic vitamins, preservatives, and highly concentrated simple sugars are nutritional, we'll just have to disagree.

Yep, we will be disagreeing about all claims you provide no evidence for.

You know "juice" is a very broad term, right? That's the only reason I got into this stupid argument in the first place - statements like "x" is always healthier than "y" are all but guaranteed to be wrong, as the original statement was. Just look at your convoluted vitamin argument above - it is possible (and pretty common) to make your own juice directly from fresh fruit, no additives whatsoever, so there goes that whole dismissal. I guess you'll need a new unverified reason to discount fruit juice. Go check the "new" section on Amazon; I'm sure someone's selling a spanking new "health scare of the next 15 minutes" book.

 

[FanuSanu52]

and another problem with them is that the coffee amount is controlled by using those cups so its incredibly weak..everytime I go to a family event I feel like im drinking watered down coffee, why bother. Why wouldnt you want to control the strength..and yes they do have a thing to put real grinds in it but generally people pay for overpriced cups

I bought a Keurig for my family as an Xmas gift. I agree that they suck and don't use one at home. But I figured they do taste better than the terrible Folgers canned coffee my family stocks and I end up drinking for a week or two at a time when out to visit. A great gift for all - a quick, convenient one-cup maker for them, which I know they'd use, and a present for me when I visit. The first time I stayed out there, I noticed they'd gotten one of those fillable cups .. and a big supply of canned Folgers to put in it. Failure.

 

[Doteman]

At home I drink tap water, but I drink bottled water at work. They do not have a water cooler for us lowly state employees here on Jersey Street in New Brunswick and the tap water tastes like shit. They don't even provide a fridge, we had to chip in for one.

 

[DJ Spanky]

Bottled water is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the first world. A completely unnecessary product, costing 1000x more (or more than that) than the almost free water that is available from the faucet. I get it for 3rd world countries where the water supply is iffy or for when on the go, but other than that it's a waste. Most bottled water comes out of processing factories, not from little gnomes filling bottles from secret mountain streams - and, in fact, water quality from the tap is regulated more tightly than bottled water, so the purity selling angle is a myth. Bottled water is also absolute proof of the incredible power of advertising, creating a need where there was not one and capitalizing on it. Handsomely. I'm amazed people fall for this crap.

And on this subject, I just ran across this article:

Coke and Pepsi are making America healthier with the 'marketing trick of the century'

 

[Upstream]

And on this subject, I just ran across this article:

Coke and Pepsi are making America healthier with the 'marketing trick of the century'

That article supports the comments I've made in this thread that the increase in sales of bottled water is just a switch from soda to water. Consumers are still buying bottled beverages. It is just that the bottle is more likely to contain water instead of soda.

 

[FanuSanu52]

I really hope people aren't as dumb and self-absorbed as that article makes them out to be (look at me! bottled water, I'm healthy!), but sadly I know they are.

 

[bac2therac]

soda

thats a cute answer but not entirely accurate. people were not walking down the street with soda. I dont recall soda coming out of a faucet for free either. People drank water back in the 90s and 80s and 70s and probably before that, it just didnt start happening. Sure people probably drink less soda now as a go to at home or in fast food joints but its not like they were using soda to quench thirst either back then

 

[Upstream]

thats a cute answer but not entirely accurate.

I'm not trying to be funny. That is the real answer. The increase in sales of bottled water has come at the expense of soda, along with other beverages like juice and sports drinks.

http://nytimes.com/2013/10/26/business/bottled-water-sales-rising-as-soda-ebbs.html

 

[RUDutch]

My wife fills the Keurig coffee maker with bottled water, a double waste, but she makes up for that by buying reasonably priced chicken.