Which building are you in?Multiple people in my Manhattan Office (same company) tested positive, first one was seven floors below.
no idea who they are. I went partial wfh friday, it was announced over weekend and went to full office closure except traders on Monday.
looks like they got it last week of Feb first week of march.
What I find interesting is experts also said the world is done in 12 years because of climate change but not a single person panicked and not a single stock lost value because of it.
Good news. USA has tested roughly 82,571 people, roughly 8,131 positive(72k negative), 134 dead(7,997 alive). On top of that in the most effected areas people have been social distancing. So as testing increases these numbers will grow further and further apart.
The medical community has said that 100 to 200 million Americans can get this. Either over the next 4 months or next 14 months. If it happens over the next 4 months, out hospitals will be turning needy people away to die at home or on the street. This is what we are trying to slow down.So I ask again ... how many deaths do you think we will see from the Coronavirus? I was asked this question three days ago and I said far less than 150,000. If I can give a number, I think the medical experts should be able to predict a number. Especially since the medical community has unanimously announced we should crash the economy and end all social activities for a minimum of two weeks (I've seen two months in some places) to combat this problem. If the general public should be expected to just take the advice of the unanimous medical community (we're all uneducated rubes after all), I think it's only fair that the medical community provide a death toll prediction so we can gauge their accuracy when it's all over.
This is the most telling thing you wrote.
Do you have a link you are using for those numbers? Highest testing numbers I've seen so far for the US are in the 42k range.
The medical community has said that 100 to 200 million Americans can get this. Either over the next 4 months or next 14 months. If it happens over the next 4 months, out hospitals will be turning needy people away to die at home or on the street. This is what we are trying to slow down.
if 100 million people get this. 10 million would require hospitalization. 2 million would require ICU/respirators and due because there is no treatment.
how is this information available to me and not you? Are you just choosing not to believe it?
If our social distancing is working, we should see a slow down here in NJ in 10-14 days. I don’t remember the exact numbers, but day by day counts of infected NJans were similar to....
1,0,0,1,0,2,4,8,21,29,39,71,89,167....
If you went to college, you know this math goes crazy from here. Kind of like that math that if I give you a penny on day one and double it, in 30 you hit a lot of money.
will warm weather help, maybe, but only to slow it then it re-emerges in the fall.
vaccine, everyone says end of year at best.
but here in NJ, I believe if social distancing works (because many people still have to work) we should see a plateau of our daily totals of infected people, in a couple weeks.
As I said above, I get daily reports at work. Here is the latest report I received on NY and NJ.The medical community has said that 100 to 200 million Americans can get this. Either over the next 4 months or next 14 months. If it happens over the next 4 months, out hospitals will be turning needy people away to die at home or on the street. This is what we are trying to slow down.
if 100 million people get this. 10 million would require hospitalization. 2 million would require ICU/respirators and due because there is no treatment.
how is this information available to me and not you? Are you just choosing not to believe it?
If our social distancing is working, we should see a slow down here in NJ in 10-14 days. I don’t remember the exact numbers, but day by day counts of infected NJans were similar to....
1,0,0,1,0,2,4,8,21,29,39,71,89,167....
If you went to college, you know this math goes crazy from here. Kind of like that math that if I give you a penny on day one and double it, in 30 you hit a lot of money.
will warm weather help, maybe, but only to slow it then it re-emerges in the fall.
vaccine, everyone says end of year at best.
but here in NJ, I believe if social distancing works (because many people still have to work) we should see a plateau of our daily totals of infected people, in a couple weeks.
What I find interesting is how you pick and choose what’s real news vs fake news.
I am a moderate. I was ready to vote Democrat but I could not vote for Hillary. I immediately regretted voting for trump. But, even though he started slow, I think he has done a good job as of late (pertaining to covid-19). Absolutely, if this social distancing works, or if he as able to get tons of new respirators and ICUs up and running, and the slow down keeps our hospitals from being overrun, then yes, he would deserve a ton of credit. I also see that he is so worried about the economy (legacy), but no one reasonable person would blame a recession on him with covid-19. Its obvious that this is affecting the world economy not just ours.Media has already made it impossible to not give trump tons off credit and call him a hero. They set the bar too high. They have already made this the biggest crisis in American history since WW2. Worse than 9/11, worse than 08 financial crisis.... China has 4K or so dead experts in USA saying we can expect 480k minimum by end of year and our economy is going to burn down to the ground...
You can criticize and make conclusions about people on the board for not taking the media’s word for it hook, line and sinker but the media has been wrong/deceptive a lot over the last 3 years. They have lost credibility. Don’t blame me blame them for accusing a 17 year old kid for being racist, or when they talked about the trump pee tape, or down played the killing of terrorists or called trump xenophobic for stopping flight from China.... Again China has 4K dead and experts predicting 480k in USA by end of year minimum. Some things are not adding up. So excuse me if I am a bit hesitant to be all in on the numbers...
As I said
As I said above, I get daily reports at work. Here is the latest report I received on NY and NJ.
"New York State saw cases rise to 2,382 ( +1008 since yesterday, a 73% increase). Cases in New York City rose to 1,339 cases (+695 since yesterday, a 108% increase). We will continue to see these numbers rise as testing is further expanded in the state.
In response, Gov. Cuomo enacted a mandatory statewide requirement that no more than 50% of employees at any business in the state can report to work at one time (exempting delivery, health care, and other critical services).
New Jersey saw cases rise to 427 (+160 since yesterday, a 60% increase), which comes as the state begins to expand its testing capabilities. "
What I find interesting is how you pick and choose what’s real news vs fake news.
I am a moderate. I was ready to vote Democrat but I could not vote for Hillary. I immediately regretted voting for trump. But, even though he started slow, I think he has done a good job as of late (pertaining to covid-19). Absolutely, if this social distancing works, or if he as able to get tons of new respirators and ICUs up and running, and the slow down keeps our hospitals from being overrun, then yes, he would deserve a ton of credit. I also see that he is so worried about the economy (legacy), but no one reasonable person would blame a recession on him with covid-19. Its obvious that this is affecting the world economy not just ours.
Did you click all their links and where they get their data... probably not but per cdc 7,000 cases 94 deaths...
Ok I’ll change my political status1. He didn’t start slow, he was hyper partisan and called the reporting a media hoax.
2. It’s a lot easier to blame a recession on him and the Republicans in Congress if you understand economics and realize that they’ve used up most of the levers to get us out of a recession in order to prop up the economy without actually fixing structural issues.
3. You are not a moderate if you voted for Trump and are considering voting for him again, given what we’ve seen and heard from him over the past 4 years.
As I said
As I said above, I get daily reports at work. Here is the latest report I received on NY and NJ.
"New York State saw cases rise to 2,382 ( +1008 since yesterday, a 73% increase). Cases in New York City rose to 1,339 cases (+695 since yesterday, a 108% increase). We will continue to see these numbers rise as testing is further expanded in the state.
In response, Gov. Cuomo enacted a mandatory statewide requirement that no more than 50% of employees at any business in the state can report to work at one time (exempting delivery, health care, and other critical services).
New Jersey saw cases rise to 427 (+160 since yesterday, a 60% increase), which comes as the state begins to expand its testing capabilities. "
I didn't make any comment what was causing the increase. Given we are doing more testing, then increase is probably due to increase in the amount of testing not amount of people getting sick. I'm on my corporate group charged with managing this issue so I see a status on the numbers daily (across the world). I was just passing on info I was aware not making any judgements or conclusions.these increase and increases over the next week mean nothing. The only reason we are seeing huge jumps is because of more tests are available...
CrapJust a heads up, I now know someone who has tested positive. My coworker who sits about 3 offices away. He’s low 30’s male. Very good shape, does triathlons and stuff. He was hospitalized for 4 days with pneumonia and breathing issues. pretty scary.
he’s home now and improving
So the increasingly overrun, undersupplied hospitals are imaginary? OK.Swine flu had 60M cases and no one batted an eye. Not one hospital was overrun and not one cent was lost in the stock market....
the only difference is the hysteria around it.
No actual climate scientists said anything was ending in 12 years. Please. You’re embarrassing yourself.What I find interesting is experts also said the world is done in 12 years because of climate change but not a single person panicked and not a single stock lost value because of it.
Good news. USA has tested roughly 82,571 people, roughly 8,131 positive(72k negative), 134 dead(7,997 alive). On top of that in the most effected areas people have been social distancing. So as testing increases these numbers will grow further and further apart.
No actual climate scientists said anything was ending in 12 years. Please. You’re embarrassing yourself.
You’re the one who didn’t believe me a few days ago when I said hospitals were overrun. Keep that head in the sand, very helpful.In 2009, Al Gore said there was a 75% likelihood that the North Pole would lose all its ice within 5 to 7 years. How'd that one turn out?
List his credentials that make him an actual climate scientist. I’ll wait.In 2009, Al Gore said there was a 75% likelihood that the North Pole would lose all its ice within 5 to 7 years. How'd that one turn out?
I know this is very OT but just by some bizarre, slim chance you are interested in what real scientists are finding to be true with direct study in Greenland and in Antarctica nowadays, it's all in these (with Rutgers work prominently featured in the 2nd)...In 2009, Al Gore said there was a 75% likelihood that the North Pole would lose all its ice within 5 to 7 years. How'd that one turn out?
Can we quantify what her facility has seen?Also, talked to my daughter just now. She is head nurse honcho(and 4 months pregnant) @ Urgent Care on rte 18 in E.Brunswick, and Franklin Twsp, Somerset. She said virus is all over, stay inside if possible.
In 2009, Al Gore said there was a 75% likelihood that the North Pole would lose all its ice within 5 to 7 years. How'd that one turn out?
what exactly is your point in all of this?
do you have any friends or family in health care? I can tell you that doctors and nurses are already spent and we havent even hit our spikes yet.
what part of our healthcare system being overrun do you not understand?
are you being intentionally thick here?