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OT: Doors Debut album

That's because that's all they could play.
I can recall seeing The Clash at the Capital Theater back in the day with my old girlfriend and her saying "They must have somebody play for them in the studio. These guys can't play their instruments."
I've walked out of more than few punk rock
concerts including the awful Iggy Pop...please spare my how revolutionary he was, the Greatful Dead and The Band were revolutionary
 
I've walked out of more than few punk rock
concerts including the awful Iggy Pop...please spare my how revolutionary he was, the Greatful Dead and The Band were revolutionary

The first 2 chords (played 4 times) of "Purple Haze" were revolutionary.
 
I've walked out of more than few punk rock
concerts including the awful Iggy Pop...please spare my how revolutionary he was, the Greatful Dead and The Band were revolutionary

Disagree on Iggy. I see a ton of live music, like industry levels. Saw him last summer rip the stage a part. Real rock n roll, the likes of which you don't see anymore. Revolutionary? No. But the old dude slays it.
 
Not to mention:
Alvin Lee
John Mayall
Chambers Brothers
Moby Grape
Canned Heat
The Turtles
The Byrds
Big Brother
Stevie Wonder
Monkeys
Beach Boys
Kinks
You Tube Alvin Lee/ Ten Years After/ Live at Woodstock/ I'm going home.
 
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Jim Morrison of the Doors and actor Harry Hamlin from Clash of the Titans

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Disagree on Iggy. I see a ton of live music, like industry levels. Saw him last summer rip the stage a part. Real rock n roll, the likes of which you don't see anymore. Revolutionary? No. But the old dude slays it.
Can't stand the music he makes.
 
Not a massive fan myself, but live, that dude puts it down. No ifs, ands or buts.
Personally I never bought that as a reason to see anyone, I've been told many times to see people in person who's music sucked in my opinion…the concerts rarely changed my thinking.
 
I love the Doors, but one of the biggest reasons for the punk rock revolution was the backlash against heavily over-produced AOR/prog rock from the 70s. Punk rock took it back to "three chords and a cloud of dust." I will grant you that most of these bands wrote their own music and that none of those bands would've considered lip syncing.


I have to agree with #s point about the reversion of some new wave and punk going back to the three chord structure. I'm not saying as a group they were great musicians but I did like the I-IV-V and I-vi-IV-V progressions from the 50's and 60's. Some of the new wave was reminiscent of that. You can do a lot with those progressions (think Chuck Berry who borrowed much from Robert Johnson, Charlie Patton, and other great black blues men from the '30s and beyond. ). Having said that and getting back to The Doors and other Woodstock era groups, they were great!
 
Personally I never bought that as a reason to see anyone, I've been told many times to see people in person who's music sucked in my opinion…the concerts rarely changed my thinking.

I have the opposite happen, often. Sometimes the other way. If a band can't put it down live, they suck. No matter what they sound like recorded.
 
Light My Fire is a classic. The true test of time for a song is when a cover can be a classic on its own. Robbie's flamenco & jazz leanings get some acoustic guitar embellishment from Jose in this rendition. Same song, totally different feel.
 
That Ten Years After performance at Woodstock is still one of my favorites.
Saw Ten Years After at the old Academy of Music. Some guy in the balcony was yelling for them to play Woodchoppers Ball the whole night. Groups such as Ten Years After and the Doors paid homage to old standards. Woodchoppers Ball - Woody Herman. Back Door Man - Willie Dixon. Alabama Whiskey Song - Weill & Brecht. Also, my impression of Alvin that night was that he was a member of the band rather than a guitar hero.
 
What was the reaction of parents to the Doors in the late 1960's and early 1970s? Acceptance or repulsion?
My mother had a rather caustic reaction when she heard: "Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection Send my credentials to the House of Detention I got some friends inside" - (When the Musics Over)
Not really sure our parents were tuned into the imagery, metaphor and sarcasm of music from the Doors, Frank Zappa, etc. As opposed to pop music and the Beatles, some of this music was probably more "underground" literally . . . meaning played in the sanctity of basement rec rooms.
 
That's because that's all they could play.
I can recall seeing The Clash at the Capital Theater back in the day with my old girlfriend and her saying "They must have somebody play for them in the studio. These guys can't play their instruments."

But it didn't fukking matter, which was the whole point of punk. Punk was all about the anger and the energy, as Johnny Rotten put it when he was with PIL. Loud and fast with at least a little melody (not always necessary, lol) and often with some meaningful lyrics (again not necessary) made for some of the best rock and roll in history, especially live.

I've seen a ton of what many around here would call the "best" bands in history (Stones, Zeppelin, Who, Yes, Bruce, Genesis, Allman Brothers, the Dead, Neil Young, Pink Floyd, etc.) and I'll take my favorite punk/alt rock shows over just about all of them. Don't get wrong - I love those mostly classic rock bands, but there was just something different about the punk/alt band shows I saw.

Maybe it's just because those big band shows were all at large, impersonal venues, whereas my favorite punk/alt shows (U2, REM, Nirvana, Dramarama, Social Distortion, Smithereens, Elvis Costello, Titus Andronicus, Sonic Youth, Cloud Nothings, Vampire Weekend, Gaslight Anthem, etc.) were all in small, fairly intimate venues, usually with only the most hardcore fans there, and usually before those bands became much bigger.

As my mom always says, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla...
 
Maybe it's just because those big band shows were all at large, impersonal venues, whereas my favorite punk/alt shows ...... were all in small, fairly intimate venues.....

MAYBE ???
And please, it DOES matter whether they can actually play those instruments or not.
 
MAYBE ???
And please, it DOES matter whether they can actually play those instruments or not.

The guys in the Clash could play their instruments well enough to be one of the greatest bands in rock and roll history, although they certainly weren't virtuosos. My point is virtuosity takes a major back seat to me to the basic song/music and energy.
 
If you want to see a crazy band with unreal energy, go see this group. Not sure when or where they are touring, but they are one of a kind. Go see them if they are in your area.

http://www.gogolbordello.com/

Have seen them a couple of times, in 2009 and 2012. Really high energy, but not my cup of tea musically - really wanted to love them, too, but sometimes it just doesn't work out. NYUStudent is a huge fan (can't recall his newer username)
 
The guys in the Clash could play their instruments well enough to be one of the greatest bands in rock and roll history, although they certainly weren't virtuosos. My point is virtuosity takes a major back seat to me to the basic song/music and energy.

RU848789:
I happen to be one of the biggest fans of The Clash. You don't have to convince me of their greatness. Sandanista and London Calling are two of my favorite all-time albums..At the show at the Capital Theater that I referenced they were the opposite of virtuosos. Perhaps they didn't bring to the show all of the guys that played on their recorded stuff. Perhaps they partied a tad too much prior to the show. I know a guy who saw Hendrix in his prime and said he was so messed up on whatever he was taking that evening he wasn't so great. So...it happens.
But Joe Strummer and Mick Jones didn't look like they could do anything but strum. And it was disappointing. You've got the guitar strapped on. Play something, dammit. I am not asking for Clapton or Stevie Ray. But give it a try....something please.
But then maybe it's that chocolate-vanilla thing. I do like the electric guitar.
 
Have seen them a couple of times, in 2009 and 2012. Really high energy, but not my cup of tea musically - really wanted to love them, too, but sometimes it just doesn't work out. NYUStudent is a huge fan (can't recall his newer username)

I can't say I loved their music, but from an energy/crowd thing, they crushed it. It was at the Hollywood Bowl which I am at very often and I haven't seen it lit up like that ever. Pretty awesome show. Would love to see them in an indoor small venue.
 
Stoned - Immaculate.

Remember in the 80's "Crystal Ship," a Doors cover / bar band, popular in Bergen County, Westchester, etc.
Yes. Never saw them, but they used to play at The Light House in Lake Hopatcong. Guy I went to HS with was a DOORS freak. He tried to get me to listen. I didn't. Big mistake. Figured it out about 20 years later.
 
But it didn't fukking matter, which was the whole point of punk. Punk was all about the anger and the energy, as Johnny Rotten put it when he was with PIL. Loud and fast with at least a little melody (not always necessary, lol) and often with some meaningful lyrics (again not necessary) made for some of the best rock and roll in history, especially live.

I've seen a ton of what many around here would call the "best" bands in history (Stones, Zeppelin, Who, Yes, Bruce, Genesis, Allman Brothers, the Dead, Neil Young, Pink Floyd, etc.) and I'll take my favorite punk/alt rock shows over just about all of them. Don't get wrong - I love those mostly classic rock bands, but there was just something different about the punk/alt band shows I saw.

Maybe it's just because those big band shows were all at large, impersonal venues, whereas my favorite punk/alt shows (U2, REM, Nirvana, Dramarama, Social Distortion, Smithereens, Elvis Costello, Titus Andronicus, Sonic Youth, Cloud Nothings, Vampire Weekend, Gaslight Anthem, etc.) were all in small, fairly intimate venues, usually with only the most hardcore fans there, and usually before those bands became much bigger.

As my mom always says, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla...

Saw many up and coming alt/punk bands in the 80's/early 90's at a classic small venue in Hoboken just around the block from my apartment on 11th and Garden - Maxwell's.
 
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