Thought they'd have a larger battery for some type of discernible EV range. 1.9 kwh is pretty weak.
Chevy electrified the Corvette to make it even more powerful — see the hybrid E-Ray
The electrified Corvette E-Ray has 655 horsepower, all-wheel drive, and a starting price of $104,295.finance.yahoo.com
some have suggested this hybrid setup. Almost like an electric turbo.
I’m going to guess the EV component is purely added for performance, not fuel economy.
I think jtung230 is correct.
Yeah, don't think your average Corvette buyer is going to care about electric range. While not in the article fsg linked (or maybe I overlooked it), Car and Driver: "Pure-electric driving is very limited, with Chevy estimating up to five miles of range in the E-Ray's exclusive Stealth mode."
Partially true but they've been advertising a "Stealth" EV mode since teasing it a week or two ago. That mode gets no range and they say it's for quietly "exiting the neighborhood" - so driving a block. What's the point?
Think that it gives the gasoline motor extra boost for off the line acceleration.
True, shaves about half a second off the 0 to 60. Just seems like more hype and money ($40K extra) than electrified product. Thought this would be a bigger step toward the full E-Vette they're also planning.Think that it gives the gasoline motor extra boost for off the line acceleration.
We have a hybrid motor in our Volvo S60 Recharge. The off the line acceleration is fantastic.
We are not going Racing in the Streets anytime soon in our Volvo, but:
"As complicated as this powertrain is, it proved plenty reliable during our 40,000-mile test of a 2020 model, with modest service costs too. That car, which made 400 horsepower, hit 60 mph in 4.3 seconds. This one, with its additional muscle, knocks a couple of ticks off that time, reaching 60 in 4.1 seconds and dispatching the quarter-mile in 12.5 seconds at 112 mph."
I know that on the next cannonball run, @RU4Real will lose if we drive our S60 Recharge.
Tested: 2023 Volvo S60 Recharge Makes the Leap
Volvo's plug-in powertrain gets an upsized battery and motor, adding horsepower and transforming its EV capability.www.caranddriver.com
I think that once you are in the sub 3 second 0 to 60 acceleration, spending another $40K is probably chump change to speed enthusiasts. But for those interest in EVs, it's a lot of of money for not much EV performance.
Think that it gives the gasoline motor extra boost for off the line acceleration.
We have a hybrid motor in our Volvo S60 Recharge. The off the line acceleration is fantastic.
We are not going Racing in the Streets anytime soon in our Volvo, but:
"As complicated as this powertrain is, it proved plenty reliable during our 40,000-mile test of a 2020 model, with modest service costs too. That car, which made 400 horsepower, hit 60 mph in 4.3 seconds. This one, with its additional muscle, knocks a couple of ticks off that time, reaching 60 in 4.1 seconds and dispatching the quarter-mile in 12.5 seconds at 112 mph."
I know that on the next cannonball run, @RU4Real will lose if we drive our S60 Recharge.
Tested: 2023 Volvo S60 Recharge Makes the Leap
Volvo's plug-in powertrain gets an upsized battery and motor, adding horsepower and transforming its EV capability.
Comparing sticker price of one vehicle with your negotiated price is being deceptive. Adding sales tax to one and deducting a subsidy from the other just reinforces my point. The poor bastard driving a Kia that paid his sales tax, and every other tax thrown at him, is subsidizing some rich guy's toy and the solar panels to power it. You think the money for those things falls off a magic money tree? Or we can just print a bunch (that he and his kids are on the hook for ironically) and make the poor Kia guy's money worth even less. That's gonna be great for him and his family. He's worrying about buying groceries not a Prius. So much for the paying your fair share mantra from libs huh? Your "savings" are just a burden put on somebody else. Looking out for the little guy😂😂
The real math is how much he actually paid. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Irony is ironic from the fair share gang.
You are coming off very silly here. There was zero negotiation. The sticker price of my car F150 Lightning was the MSRP, or $79,500. OK, take off the "tax credit (don't know why I would do that, as all purchases are economic decisions and a price point at which a buy will or will not make a purchase), and go back to $79,500, still $300 less than the ICE version of the same vehicle, and a lot less because of no sales tax. If you want to make the tax argument does not count, please show your tax returns were you DO NOT take the mortgage and property tax deduction.
Who said I was rich?
I applauded you for your financial acuity. Agreed with the post. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Was a compliment.You are coming off very silly here. There was zero negotiation. The sticker price of my car F150 Lightning was the MSRP, or $79,500. OK, take off the "tax credit (don't know why I would do that, as all purchases are economic decisions and a price point at which a buy will or will not make a purchase), and go back to $79,500, still $300 less than the ICE version of the same vehicle, and a lot less because of no sales tax. If you want to make the tax argument does not count, please show your tax returns were you DO NOT take the mortgage and property tax deduction.
I'm not mad. This is highly entertaining and fun. You need to quit while you are behind, and focus on something you are good at 😉 :
It's all good and a friendly debate. I can sort of understand your beef about subsidizing EVs, but if we go down that road, there is a much longer list of things to complain about in that area.
Is this a trick question? I'm perfectly okay with me being subsidized by anyone and everyone.
And I would not have a problem if there was means testing to limit or eliminate the tax credit for people making more money. The problem right now is that many of the EVs are so expensive, they might not sell as well. Perhaps once demand picks up (counterintuitive) and economies of scale take hold, prices will come down to a more affordable level. That said, there are quite a few pure EVs that are fairly cheap. A guy on my fire department got a Kia for something like $12,000. The range is quite low, but he is OK with that. Not sure if that was used, but I cannot imagine it was new and getting a $7500 tax credit.
I was checking out (online) the F150 Raptor R last night. The article's reviewers seemed to really love it. But they kind of mocked the pricing for it. I priced one out in the Ford configurator at $111,470.
The system is setup for the poor people to drain the rich people. Keep in mind that this is a tax credit. If you don’t owe any taxes, there is no subsidy. I think the correct question is am I ok with the rich guy subsidizing less of a poor guy.
Stationary storage batteries are the sleeping giant. Both utility and residential.
I would love a flat tax with no deductions whatsoever, except for charity. And no EITC (i.e., tax system welfare). Exempt the first $30k or so of income. Life would be so simple!Who said I was rich?
Do you take a mortgage and property tax deduction on your federal income tax? Do you take a deduction for kids and other deductions?
I don't understand your objection to tax policy that promotes purportedly noble goals of saving the planet. Taking advantage of the tax system. That's how smart people get richer. Don't cry about it hurting the poor people, because it is not. That is a weird hill to die on.
The EITC was a huge Ronald Reagan priority.
That is one reason I no longer do tax returns. The times I had to deal with getting in touch with the IRS made it a nightmare. Now I just do what I call record keeping for small businesses to take to their CPA at the end of the year. I don't have to deal with any tax issues.
SS and Medicare can be included. Just make the rate revenue neutral for everything and we are good to go.
The tax code is a mess. I'd much rather have a flat tax than having to hire accountants and do my own research on the variety of tax exemptions, credits, etc. We worked through NJ BAIT the past couple of years, and it was a ridiculous amount of work, all for NJ Dept of Revenue (or whatever it is called) to shaft us on our return. We will get our money, but they don't understand their own nutty regulations. I still love living here though, so don't go there.
Heck, in 1992 that bastion of conservativism, Jerry Brown, proposed a 13 percent flat income tax. I remember him throwing books into a garbage can, symbolic of trashing the oversized tax code. There were other parts of his plan that were shaky. Of course, many of the liberal newspapers panned the idea as unfair.
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