OT: Electric vehicles
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Someone has to mine for the material for all those cell phone batteries.but look at all the jobs being created!
TWO electric vehicles are now the best and 2nd best selling vehicles in California in 2022. Not best selling EVs, best selling vehicles overall. California is the nations largest vehicle market. The EV revolution is upon us.
Like I said. Tesla is going to be the Toyota of EVs.
I appreciate you posting evidence of my prognosticatory genius. I didn't think you cared. 🥰
California typically starts a lot of new trends in the US. I expect the Y and 3 to be leading car sales in many US states within two years.
Study finds plug-in hybrid vehicles are dirtier than we thought:
https://electrek.co/2023/02/08/another-study-shows-plug-in-hybrids-are-dirtier-than-we-thought/
https://electrek.co/2023/02/08/another-study-shows-plug-in-hybrids-are-dirtier-than-we-thought/
Good summary on the availably of materials for EV batteries.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p8gw9g2d132iel3/material availability for batteries.pdf?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p8gw9g2d132iel3/material availability for batteries.pdf?dl=0
Looking forward to this. IMO, this is the Good Elon stuff. I can't stand Bad Elon with his dumb shitposts.
J.D. Power rates Lexus, Kia most dependable — where does your car brand rank? - Autoblog
J.D. Power's 2023 Vehicle Dependability Study results are out, and show that automakers have plenty of room to improve on technology and other high-end features.
www.autoblog.com
Well, if your stock cratered the way TSLA has, you'd probably have to develop some good pitch skills.
Nickel, copper, steel, aluminum, and lithium have all come down significantly since Oct/Nov.
Good thing I didn't buy any of those European made PHEV's. And since I drive 10 miles on battery for every gas mile I'm still pretty clean. (Except my car needs a good cleaning inside and out)
Actually the stock is doing quite well. The company is doing even better. Wall St figured out that the shit storm of FUD over the last few months was immaterial. Guess you haven't.
Bad take by you. You have some sort of weird hate for PHEVs. Did you read Electrek's Take?
Dumb take on PHEVs. Did you read it?:
Electrek’s Take
PHEVs are an attractive solution for automakers and drivers because they represent a middle-ground which allows for emissions reductions but doesn’t require nearly as many manufacturing or habitual changes from those respective groups.
And they surely reduce emissions as compared to gas- or diesel-only cars when used correctly. Plus, when battery supplies are thin, it’s attractive to think that electrifying three cars with 20kWh batteries might result in better emissions reductions than one car with a 60kWh battery.
But the problem is that PHEVs often aren’t used correctly, as in the case of Germany’s company car leases, or small-battery PHEVs like the Plug-In Prius which many drivers only buy to get access to incentives like carpool stickers or tax rebates.
So while we understand that well-designed PHEVs like the BMW i3 can be used correctly – and better-designed PHEVs will be more likely to be used correctly, as both ICCT and T&E’s recommendations point out – it still seems apparent that BEVs are the better choice. Even in the current battery-constrained environment, and with consumers who often ask for far more range than they need, any calculation of relative PHEV and BEV emissions reductions must take into account not just laboratory testing, but real-world numbers.
Reality like Full Self Driving? I give him a lot credit for revolutionizing the auto. But he over promises and under delivers. I’m sure the plan will work out eventually but it’ll be behind schedule and more expensive.
Revolutionized auto, yet under delivers. Ok, square that circle.
Operating on the bleeding edge of technology usually comes with delays.
Tesla turns the impossible into late.
The impossible? Really? It’s call overselling. How’s robo taxi going?
Bad take? I didn't write the article or perform the tests. Real world data needs to be considered for all vehicle types. From mine to highway. Seems logical to me.
The battery shortage argument has been thrown around for a while with Toyota leading that charge. And, it makes sense if supplies are finite. But, there isn't a battery shortage. Battery production is accelerating.
My major beef is with the hybrid subsidies. When it comes to emissions, PHEVs and BEVs are not equal. Subsidies should reflect that. Do you really think a Jeep Wrangler hybrid that gets 19 city/24hwy should be classified as a "green" vehicle and deserves a $7500 tax credit?
Yeah, really. Solving autonomy is difficult.
You're acting like they've abandoned the project.
All Teslas have FSD hardware so all are potential robotaxi.
There's a good chance we see Tesla's own dedicated robotaxi on March 1.
Well, Musk did send some of the FSD team over to twitter. Not abandonment, per se. But given the issues with FSD, moving any FSD resources seems a bit odd if Musk thinks FSD is actually important get working right.
It's not like Musk can't afford to hire more people for either company. He could pay a bunch of salaries using a small fraction of his investment earnings, most years. If he cares about the saving the planet, and saving the lives of people in his cars, why not, right?
And still better than ICE cars.
Imagine being so upset about a type of car technology 😂😂😂
If you don’t think that EVs and automated vehicles are revolutionary, you aren’t paying attention. it’s ok though, this revolution is more like a tide that doesn’t ebb. no palace coups that turn things upside down overnight.
He's not paying attention.
And to add...The EV manufacturing process = revolutionary. The factory is the product.
I'm not going to debate facts with you Elmo Cock Gobblers.
You're not getting FSD without V2X. Period.
As for electric cars... I dunno, golf carts have been around for a while. There's nothing about a Tesla that is "revolutionary". It's an electric car. People have been building electric cars for more than a century. All Tesla has done is mass produce them, which is an industry first.
Did ya see the new Maybach hybrid, bro? Just intro'ed yesterday ...first for the Merc-May brand.
Maygnificent!
A reallllly (reallllly) fancy Mercedes that is the official car of Rutgers95s everywhere.
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