OT: Honda Accord Thread

[i'vegotwinners]

I'm leaning towards thinking that all individually owned cars are personality statements. Seems to me that an Accord is just as much of a personality statement as a Ferrari. They just say different things and in different ways.

Also, boring but lasts forever seems like a false choice. What's wrong with non-boring and lasts forever?

or possibly more "financial statements" than personality.


on a side note, as an old fart, i remember back you could identify the make and model of a car from a block away.

today, if you removed all the identifying logos and brand markers, and just went by the shape of the car, you could barely, (if at all), tell one car from another.if standing right next to them.

i can be stopped at a light with another car right next to me, or even be walking around a parked car, and if there are no visible emblems identifying the car, i haven't the slightest idea what brand car it is, what yr it is, or even manufacturer's country of origin.

and the inside is about the same, (as pointed out in the recent Chevy commercials).

if sitting in a car with no identifying logos visible, you would have absolutely no idea the make or model or manufacturer's country of origin.

face it, today we pretty much have one generic car design and one SUV design, inside and out, which comes in different colors and slightly different sizes.

 

[RU4Real]

4Real -- Is there any value in knowing the 0-60 time when comparing cars? The half-second difference between the Audi and Honda does not seem very great. When my wife bought her car a few years ago, she selected a car with a 0-60 time similar to the Honda Accord, but she found the car she selected to be a lot less sluggish. So it seems to me that the 0-60 stat is not very meaningful in comparing how cars perform in the real world. Is there a different measure we should look at?

Not for most people, no. Stoplight races are the stuff of youngsters who mostly can't afford any of these cars, anyway.

As the @mildone has said, if's a lot more about how the car feels when it's accelerating. When you put your foot down, what happens? Does the car seem to respond to the accelerator pedal in a linear manner? Is there lag? Can the engine find the right gears when sudden thrust is called for?

Those are really the things that are important. And, if you're like me (and the @mildone) how long the car takes to get from 50 to 100 is also really important. Probably more important than 0-60.

 

[mildone]

Those are really the things that are important. And, if you're like me (and the @mildone) how long the car takes to get from 50 to 100 is also really important. Probably more important than 0-60.

Very true.

 

[mildone]

or possibly more "financial statements" than personality.

I guess that's probably true in many cases.

 

[rutgersal]

Not for most people, no. Stoplight races are the stuff of youngsters who mostly can't afford any of these cars, anyway.

As the @mildone has said, if's a lot more about how the car feels when it's accelerating. When you put your foot down, what happens? Does the car seem to respond to the accelerator pedal in a linear manner? Is there lag? Can the engine find the right gears when sudden thrust is called for?

Those are really the things that are important. And, if you're like me (and the @mildone) how long the car takes to get from 50 to 100 is also really important. Probably more important than 0-60.

What you and mildone are not getting is that performance metrics aren't the be all end all to the average Accord buyer. In fact, Honda removed the double wishbone suspension from the latest Accord and replaced it with a more traditional layout to keep costs down.

If Honda wanted to design an Accord with excellent 0-60,50-100 times, they could. But all that additional performance comes at an additional cost. For one thing, you need to have a high compression engine. Secondly, those engines require premium unleaded. That is not what an Accord buyer wants. An Accord buyer prioritizes space, comfort, safety, economy, and value. Sure performance is important, but it's down the list.

 

[RU4Real]

What you and mildone are not getting is that performance metrics aren't the be all end all to the average Accord buyer. In fact, Honda removed the double wishbone suspension from the latest Accord and replaced it with a more traditional layout to keep costs down.

If Honda wanted to design an Accord with excellent 0-60,50-100 times, they could. But all that additional performance comes at an additional cost. For one thing, you need to have a high compression engine. Secondly, those engines require premium unleaded. That is not what an Accord buyer wants. An Accord buyer prioritizes space, comfort, safety, economy, and value. Sure performance is important, but it's down the list.

No shit. What YOU aren't getting is that we've been saying this all along. Or main point is nothing other than "A Honda Accord is not a performance sedan". Some have attempted to argue otherwise. If you'd read the quote that I posted from Automobile's sedan shoot-out, you could have spared yourself all that typing.

 

[mildone]

What you and mildone are not getting is that performance metrics aren't the be all end all to the average Accord buyer. In fact, Honda removed the double wishbone suspension from the latest Accord and replaced it with a more traditional layout to keep costs down.

If Honda wanted to design an Accord with excellent 0-60,50-100 times, they could. But all that additional performance comes at an additional cost. For one thing, you need to have a high compression engine. Secondly, those engines require premium unleaded. That is not what an Accord buyer wants. An Accord buyer prioritizes space, comfort, safety, economy, and value. Sure performance is important, but it's down the list.

No shit. What YOU aren't getting is that we've been saying this all along. Or main point is nothing other than "A Honda Accord is not a performance sedan". Some have attempted to argue otherwise. If you'd read the quote that I posted from Automobile's sedan shoot-out, you could have spared yourself all that typing.

What 4Real said. I even gave the characteristics I'd consider if I wanted to buy an Accord or Camry or the like and didn't even mention performance.