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OT: I-695 Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses

NYPost story says the ship restored power and then moved down to close to the Verrazzano(with tugs assisting) to anchor out of the channel until the propulsion issue cause was identified/certified and then the ship continued on its journey.

Any other month this is completely a non-issue.

No, this is a conspiracy!!!! Aliens are out to destroy our way of life!
 
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So the Kill van Kull is where it lost propulsion according to Coast Guard, which isn't really all that close to the Verrazzano bridge. And as noted, it was being escorted by 3 tugs since the Kill van Kull is only like 800 ft wide.


NYPost story says the ship restored power and then moved down to close to the Verrazzano(with tugs assisting) to anchor out of the channel until the propulsion issue cause was identified/certified and then the ship continued on its journey.

Any other month this is completely a non-issue.

I don't know - won't bet on anything yet. Things not that simple.
In first article I linked, three more tugs were called in "to bring her under control."

"They had 3 escort tugs but 3 more were needed to bring her under control. They regained power & were brought to anchor near the verrazano bridge," the tugboat captain told Konrad. "


A ship that tall also has to deal with winds making it a sailboat.

Then you have the steering idiosyncrasies .

Ships that big don't steer in straight lines. They can be at "0" or straight, or they can lean to port or starboard. When power goes out the HUGE ship keeps moving where it was headed at the time (maybe add in wind, currents or tide). It can't stop easy and even dropping anchor has a multi-step procedure to avoid damaging the ship (slow to the water or anchor bounces off hull).

With a crew of screwy Bozos blowing-up pipelines, erasing borders for millions, helping terror attacks in Moscow and China putting hacking devices in port cranes I don't default to the easy answers. I'm sure worse things yet to come
 
I don't know - won't bet on anything yet. Things not that simple.
In first article I linked, three more tugs were called in "to bring her under control."

"They had 3 escort tugs but 3 more were needed to bring her under control. They regained power & were brought to anchor near the verrazano bridge," the tugboat captain told Konrad. "


A ship that tall also has to deal with winds making it a sailboat.

Then you have the steering idiosyncrasies .

Ships that big don't steer in straight lines. They can be at "0" or straight, or they can lean to port or starboard. When power goes out the HUGE ship keeps moving where it was headed at the time (maybe add in wind, currents or tide). It can't stop easy and even dropping anchor has a multi-step procedure to avoid damaging the ship (slow to the water or anchor bounces off hull).

With a crew of screwy Bozos blowing-up pipelines, erasing borders for millions, helping terror attacks in Moscow and China putting hacking devices in port cranes I don't default to the easy answers. I'm sure worse things yet to come

The only person suggesting 3 additional tugs were needed beyond the 3 already escorting/assisting it is Konrad. Every other source says it was just the 3 that were normally deployed, which makes sense.


I don't disagree with your statements about wind and tides, all of which contributed to the tragedy in Baltimore. But with 3 tugs in escort there was very little risk here.

Also I would suggest taking a look at the pier locations and design for the Verrazzano Narrows bridge. This is not a candidate for a similar occurrence as Balitmore.
 
You think barges breaking away in a storm is tied into the Baltimore Bridge allision?

I wouldn't bet my life they were related or that they weren't.
"There are no conspiracies - there are no coincidences" as the saying goes.

What I do know is that enemies foreign and domestic have a target on US, and their MO is unrestricted, asymmetric "war of disintegration." where they avoid direct military/terrorist engagement but cause all sorts of chaos on the sly (easy to do to Americans who are substantially "out of it" as a group - get clubbed like baby seals. When media tells them 2 + 2 = 5 they often believe it.).

Just dealing with patterns of certain events there is a need to get on the ball and find out whats going on. Millions of strangers have been intentionally and treacherously allowed into US - including an estimated 100k Chinese (they have their own large base along Darién Gap that they share with Hezbollah https://michaelyon.substack.com/p/operation-burning-edge-impact?triedRedirect=true ).

After an emerging dictator - Xi - declared a "Peoples War" against US its been nonstop "coincidences" of bio weapons (including LA lab, livestock viruses etc), train derailments, chipped cranes in ports, fires in food production plants and Hawaii (ignored by US like the derailment in E Palestine) and billions given to "color revolution" protests like current Pally support protests full of NGOs, Antifa etc (Official number of Pals in US is too small).

The escalation of port/barge/shipping mishaps is too curious to play dumb to (Americans still good at that)



Watch: Something very strange is happening to bridges in the US—the third incident in 7 days…

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I wouldn't bet my life they were related or that they weren't.
"There are no conspiracies - there are no coincidences" as the saying goes.

What I do know is that enemies foreign and domestic have a target on US, and their MO is unrestricted, asymmetric "war of disintegration." where they avoid direct military/terrorist engagement but cause all sorts of chaos on the sly (easy to do to Americans who are substantially "out of it" as a group - get clubbed like baby seals. When media tells them 2 + 2 = 5 they often believe it.).

Just dealing with patterns of certain events there is a need to get on the ball and find out whats going on. Millions of strangers have been intentionally and treacherously allowed into US - including an estimated 100k Chinese (they have their own large base along Darién Gap that they share with Hezbollah https://michaelyon.substack.com/p/operation-burning-edge-impact?triedRedirect=true ).

After an emerging dictator - Xi - declared a "Peoples War" against US its been nonstop "coincidences" of bio weapons (including LA lab, livestock viruses etc), train derailments, chipped cranes in ports, fires in food production plants and Hawaii (ignored by US like the derailment in E Palestine) and billions given to "color revolution" protests like current Pally support protests full of NGOs, Antifa etc (Official number of Pals in US is too small).

The escalation of port/barge/shipping mishaps is too curious to play dumb to (Americans still good at that)



Watch: Something very strange is happening to bridges in the US—the third incident in 7 days…

Massive container ship loses power near NYC’s Verrazzano Bridge days after Baltimore Key Bridge disaster​


Suspicious tech found in Chinese-made cargo cranes, fueling spying worries: Congress probe​

Nothing to fear, Mayor Pete is here!


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Nothing to fear, Mayor Pete is here!


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Its a well known tactic of neo-Marxists to usually appoint either true-believer radicals or dopes to jobs. A good dope or screwball can cause a lot of destruction - especially when hiding behind civil rights jargon .
 
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I wouldn't bet my life they were related or that they weren't.
"There are no conspiracies - there are no coincidences" as the saying goes.

What I do know is that enemies foreign and domestic have a target on US, and their MO is unrestricted, asymmetric "war of disintegration." where they avoid direct military/terrorist engagement but cause all sorts of chaos on the sly (easy to do to Americans who are substantially "out of it" as a group - get clubbed like baby seals. When media tells them 2 + 2 = 5 they often believe it.).

Just dealing with patterns of certain events there is a need to get on the ball and find out whats going on. Millions of strangers have been intentionally and treacherously allowed into US - including an estimated 100k Chinese (they have their own large base along Darién Gap that they share with Hezbollah https://michaelyon.substack.com/p/operation-burning-edge-impact?triedRedirect=true ).

After an emerging dictator - Xi - declared a "Peoples War" against US its been nonstop "coincidences" of bio weapons (including LA lab, livestock viruses etc), train derailments, chipped cranes in ports, fires in food production plants and Hawaii (ignored by US like the derailment in E Palestine) and billions given to "color revolution" protests like current Pally support protests full of NGOs, Antifa etc (Official number of Pals in US is too small).

The escalation of port/barge/shipping mishaps is too curious to play dumb to (Americans still good at that)



Watch: Something very strange is happening to bridges in the US—the third incident in 7 days…

Massive container ship loses power near NYC’s Verrazzano Bridge days after Baltimore Key Bridge disaster​


Suspicious tech found in Chinese-made cargo cranes, fueling spying worries: Congress probe​

Let me get this straight.

You believe you’ve identified a series of related events that are evidence of dangerous life-threatening attacks on the United States. And you figure that this pattern of events is so super obvious that it can be discovered just by reading news stories and social media.

But, despite it being so super obvious, the nations intelligence organizations are all totally oblivious to it.

And your response to this dire situation is to post it here, on a sports forum? Because we can do what about it? Send the football team after the culprits?

Why wouldn't you contact the CIA or FBI? Wouldn’t that be the responsible thing to do?

Or, wait! What if… what if, gasp, you are part of the evil plot? Aha!

You could be working to spread misinformation about harmless unrelated events so as to misdirect us and prevent us from seeing the real threat to our way of life: the unrestrained adoption of killer turtles secretly trained by the deep state, chipped so as to be simultaneously triggered to kill us all in our sleep!

A fiendish plot, Dr. Evil. But we’re ready for you, with our steel toed bedroom slippers.

Foiled, once again.
 
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It’s a well known tactic of neo-Marxists to usually appoint either true-believer radicals or dopes to jobs. A good dope or screwball can cause a lot of destruction - especially when hiding behind civil rights jargon .
Damn that evil civil rights stuff! Crushing all the good ‘muricans.

What we need is for women to go back to being unable to vote, pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen. And for all the non-whites to be made slaves again. Undo all the harm perpetuated by civil rights. Only white males should have any rights, amirite?

That’s what will save the country from those killer deep state turtles.
 
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Damn that evil civil rights stuff! Crushing all the good ‘muricans.

What we need is for women to go back to being unable to vote, pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen. And for all the non-whites to be made slaves again. Undo all the harm perpetuated by civil rights. Only white males should have any rights, amirite?

That’s what will save the country from those killer deep state turtles.

Right now many blacks realize they are still in the back of the bus as foreigners are dumped into their neighborhoods while being showered in benefits - all for political advantage. Same for the disordered transvestites being "civil righted" to the top of the grievance pyramid. Oh and their schools still suck as the usual political machine admins suck away the money for themselves

Jews are also waking-up as DC openly flips to support the real genocidal maniacs - a reason Iran attacks now with a wink from Mr Magoo .

Europe is waking-up to fact US extended a war that could have ended two years ago and 400 million Ukrainians would still be alive.

Fact is US gov doesn't give a rat's butt about people and will play them endlessly on a path to destruction where real threats are hidden and cow farts are lethal.

There will be a few billion dead before the end of the decade.
 
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Right now many blacks realize they are still in the back of the bus as foreigners are dumped into their neighborhoods while being showered in benefits - all for political advantage. Same for the disordered transvestites being "civil righted" to the top of the grievance pyramid. Oh and their schools still suck as the usual political machine admins suck away the money for themselves

Jews are also waking-up as DC openly flips to support the real genocidal maniacs - a reason Iran attacks now with a wink from Mr Magoo .

Europe is waking-up to fact US extended a war that could have ended two years ago and 400 million Ukrainians would still be alive.

Fact is US gov doesn't give a rat's butt about people and will play them endlessly on a path to destruction where real threats are hidden and cow farts are lethal.

There will be a few billion dead before the end of the decade.
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Let me guess. All we have to do is vote for "the other guys" and everything will be instantly better. Right?

Because "the other guys" really care about us. No kidding; you really mean it this time. They will fix Iran, fix Ukraine, fix cow farts, reveal the hidden threats, and regurgitate the money from the political machine (with interest), all while saving a few billion people in the next decade.

And best of all, they'll fix those dastardly transvestites that are ruining the planet for all the ordered people like you.

Well... it's a little shy on details and facts and and sanity, and a little heavy on mass oversimplification. But it's a plan. Best of luck with it. 🙂



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Right now many blacks realize they are still in the back of the bus as foreigners are dumped into their neighborhoods while being showered in benefits - all for political advantage. Same for the disordered transvestites being "civil righted" to the top of the grievance pyramid. Oh and their schools still suck as the usual political machine admins suck away the money for themselves

Jews are also waking-up as DC openly flips to support the real genocidal maniacs - a reason Iran attacks now with a wink from Mr Magoo .

Europe is waking-up to fact US extended a war that could have ended two years ago and 400 million Ukrainians would still be alive.

Fact is US gov doesn't give a rat's butt about people and will play them endlessly on a path to destruction where real threats are hidden and cow farts are lethal.

There will be a few billion dead before the end of the decade.
400 million Ukrainians? That's a helluva a lot of Ukrainians.
 
400 million Ukrainians? That's a helluva a lot of Ukrainians.

"Ukraine lost 500,000 soldiers, killed or seriously wounded, since the beginning of the Russian special military operation/invasion, former Prosecutor General and ex-head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Yuriy Lutsenko said.."

 
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Let me guess. All we have to do is vote for "the other guys" and everything will be instantly better. Right?

Because "the other guys" really care about us. No kidding; you really mean it this time. They will fix Iran, fix Ukraine, fix cow farts, reveal the hidden threats, and regurgitate the money from the political machine (with interest), all while saving a few billion people in the next decade.

And best of all, they'll fix those dastardly transvestites that are ruining the planet for all the ordered people like you.

Well... it's a little shy on details and facts and and sanity, and a little heavy on mass oversimplification. But it's a plan. Best of luck with it. 🙂



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Your a smart guy Mildy but you like the superficial takes in order to rationalize away realities.
Most of the people have woken-up to the fact that both factions have contempt for them, and neither wants to solve problems as much as feather their own nests. One faction just gets away with more because they have MSM. Its the obviously corrupted vs the "pretending to be good".

The disordered people are just tools to distract and cause chaos. Make transvestites normal and that makes the opponents the "new" disordered. "Transphobia" is a subversive attempt at a faux disorder. That's how the civil rights jargon gets weaponized.

Insert the disordered into military command and the manipulators know it will make many sensible people quit. The "recruitment problem" is intentional. Then they go find more disordered to take their place - and/or get foreigners to fill the gaps (already proposed). Then we wake-up one day and military is full of cartel. members, radicals, anarchists etc. These things are typical methods to subvert and "win without firing a shot."

China and Russia have funded a lot of the green con knowing it cripples US economy and channels economic edge to them. They also fund the social anarchy.

"Peter Schweizer chronicles China’s surprising ties to the Ferguson protests and the 2020 riots. “Blood Money” also exposes how China is pushing fentanyl to the United States, knowing it will devastate our country, and how a Chinese billionaire is spending significant money to promote transgenderism in the United States, even as China remains an unfriendly place for LGBTQ Chinese."



CCP openly says US is where they will expand. They see San Fran as their future capital. Michael Yon explains some of this

 
400 million Ukrainians? That's a helluva a lot of Ukrainians.
He’s on a roll. Next, he’s gonna reveal how the evil people in DC, in cahoots with an army of hundreds of millions of transvestites across the nation, are planning to intentionally kill off several trillion Americans on July 4th. 😂
 
Your a smart guy Mildy but you like the superficial takes in order to rationalize away realities.
Most of the people have woken-up to the fact that both factions have contempt for them, and neither wants to solve problems as much as feather their own nests. One faction just gets away with more because they have MSM. Its the obviously corrupted vs the "pretending to be good".

The disordered people are just tools to distract and cause chaos. Make transvestites normal and that makes the opponents the "new" disordered. "Transphobia" is a subversive attempt at a faux disorder. That's how the civil rights jargon gets weaponized.

Insert the disordered into military command and the manipulators know it will make many sensible people quit. The "recruitment problem" is intentional. Then they go find more disordered to take their place - and/or get foreigners to fill the gaps (already proposed). Then we wake-up one day and military is full of cartel. members, radicals, anarchists etc. These things are typical methods to subvert and "win without firing a shot."

China and Russia have funded a lot of the green con knowing it cripples US economy and channels economic edge to them. They also fund the social anarchy.

"Peter Schweizer chronicles China’s surprising ties to the Ferguson protests and the 2020 riots. “Blood Money” also exposes how China is pushing fentanyl to the United States, knowing it will devastate our country, and how a Chinese billionaire is spending significant money to promote transgenderism in the United States, even as China remains an unfriendly place for LGBTQ Chinese."



CCP openly says US is where they will expand. They see San Fran as their future capital. Michael Yon explains some of this

Wouldn’t the simplest solution to the “transphobia problem” be to just not be afraid of trans people? I mean, they represent about 0.0000000000001% of the electorate. Call me naive, but I feel like it’s not exactly a significant threat.

I mean, I’m too lazy to do the math, but roughy speaking, if they convert you ordered people into disordered people, increasing their numbers by about 300% per year, that would put them at around 0.00000001% of the electorate in 300 years, accounting for normal life expectancies.

So, you know, I still think all you ordered people will outnumber them by dozens of orders of magnitude. You’ll probably still be able to take ‘em. ‘Specially with all the alpha males behind you, and nothing but beta-cucks on the side of the trans folks.

At the very least, we have a while to focus on higher priorities for a few more centuries before the “trans problem” gets serious, no? We don’t have to round ‘em all up and put ‘em in reeducation camps quite yet?
 
Wouldn’t the simplest solution to the “transphobia problem” be to just not be afraid of trans people? I mean, they represent about 0.0000000000001% of the electorate. Call me naive, but I feel like it’s not exactly a significant

Ok = you're naive - and yes its a very tiny disordered cohort that shouldn't be getting used to wreck women's sports and have SCOTUS justices who can't define what a woman is.

Nothing is significant to people in denial to preserve their comfort zones - that's when calamity manifests.
Last night Israel gets attacked and DC knew it was coming.
Now DC says dont do anything back - which means Israel gets hit again and will have to take drastic measures.
Israeli war games show them they can't beat multiple foes conventionally.
Yep.
 
Sad? Who could be sad with so many great opportunities to make fun of politically obsessed people? And yeah, I enjoyed doing that for years. But when nobody ever brings anything new to the sub-forum, it gets old after awhile.

As insane as many of your posts were, at least you periodically brought something new and intelligently presented to make fun of. But the overwhelming majority of posts there have always been whiney, nonsensical, ideologically motivated sheep-like regurgitation of clickbait material produced by various talking head “research” staffs and laughably amateur extremist propaganda websites.

The conversation NEVER varies. An endless recycling of mindlessly hypocritical partisanship memes of no value to anybody anywhere, except the few talking heads who make a good living riling people up.

Other than that, though, it’s great. 😀
 
Sad? Who could be sad with so many great opportunities to make fun of politically obsessed people? And yeah, I enjoyed doing that for years. But when nobody ever brings anything new to the sub-forum, it gets old after awhile.

As insane as many of your posts were, at least you periodically brought something new and intelligently presented to make fun of. But the overwhelming majority of posts there have always been whiney, nonsensical, ideologically motivated sheep-like regurgitation of clickbait material produced by various talking head “research” staffs and laughably amateur extremist propaganda websites.

The conversation NEVER varies. An endless recycling of mindlessly hypocritical partisanship memes of no value to anybody anywhere, except the few talking heads who make a good living riling people up.

Other than that, though, it’s great. 😀

Its not about politics anymore - that's why base voters are fleeing parties (especially from one).
You're looking at the eruption of biggest calamity in history (been calling that for 10 years).
Nobody smart needs a website to recognize lunatics at work.
When the most educated have the most trouble defining "boys and girls" the future isn't bright.
 
Its not about politics anymore - that's why base voters are fleeing parties (especially from one).
You're looking at the eruption of biggest calamity in history (been calling that for 10 years).
Nobody smart needs a website to recognize lunatics at work.
When the most educated have the most trouble defining "boys and girls" the future isn't bright.
The biggest calamity? You mean the failure of Netflix to release season 2 of Wednesday on a timely basis? I mean, okay, it’s pretty damn troubling, I’ll give you that. But calamitous seems a bit of a stretch.
 
This thread should be become a CE board thread with @ashokan brain dead comments

Vultures have no vocal cords and make no sounds.
If you get too close to them they vomit at you (imagine vulture vomit).
You remind me of them because you never really say anything but just issue emetic projections.
Alas, also like vultures, I can assume you were just born that way
 
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I have him on IGNORE. One of my better decisions here.
I disagree. You should ignore trolls and people who aren't productive to conversation. You're welcome to disagree with him but ABC always brings a perspective and makes you think.
 
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"Ukraine lost 500,000 soldiers, killed or seriously wounded, since the beginning of the Russian special military operation/invasion, former Prosecutor General and ex-head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Yuriy Lutsenko said.."

Let me check the math. OK, 400,000,000 has a few more zeroes in it than 500,000. Might want to fix your typo or find new sources. Also, no other source has anywhere near 500K Ukrainian soldiers killed/wounded. I won't even comment on the rest of your tinfoil hat posts in this thread, but keep 'em coming as they're at least entertaining.
 
I disagree. You should ignore trolls and people who aren't productive to conversation. You're welcome to disagree with him but ABC always brings a perspective and makes you think.
The only thing his posts make me think about is why I'm bothering to read his crap.
 
Alright ladies. most of the CE whiners suffer because they can't hold-up under scrutiny so they do cry babe thing. Their team wrecks everything they touch. Their cities are on the way to becoming Mogadishus and Lebanons. Their colleges are crazy beyond belief. Their media lies about everything when they aren't wanking on laptops, naked in Central Park bushes or jailed after trying to get mums to let them have sex with their 9 yr old kids (all that just at CNN).

Then the boss can't stay on his feet, talk in coherent sentences or keep escalating and irrational wars from consuming them. The whole world hates US leaders (CCP aside since they bought the leaders). Ukraine is a scene from Fallout, the canals are a mess and ME is being PUSHED into exploding. They create gas leaks around the world and borrow billions to light matches. The economy is killing people despite the fake stats, The border was broken on purpose - greatest single act of treachery in US history. Oh and their Senate staffers are sodomizing on film in official chambers.

This is why they hate any critics. They used to be able to fake caring about black people but they often hate DC cartel now too. They are living through and extinction event that only more Soviet lawfare can be used (but they aren't even good at that).

 
I disagree. You should ignore trolls and people who aren't productive to conversation. You're welcome to disagree with him but ABC always brings a perspective and makes you think.
They dont want to think - they rely a carpet bag of cliches and 60 yr old fairy tales that dont work anymore.
 
Let me check the math. OK, 400,000,000 has a few more zeroes in it than 500,000. Might want to fix your typo or find new sources. Also, no other source has anywhere near 500K Ukrainian soldiers killed/wounded. I won't even comment on the rest of your tinfoil hat posts in this thread, but keep 'em coming as they're at least entertaining.

No the hive media hides real stuff. They've been saying - en masse - that Ukraine is winning for 3 years when they've been getting crushed for 2 1/2. European sources, Col MacGregor, History Legends (YouTube) and others laugh/cry at the exaggerations. Obits, satellite photos, graves, artificial limb orders painted the real picture. MacGrergor knows officers in both armies.

Alas its become too obvious that Ukraine is out of men and are using seniors, women and amputees. Young men were killed off after a blooming peace agreement (with help from Turkey) was stopped by Magoo and Boris a couple years ago.

Now not only is Ukraine low on Artillery shells but so is US. Oil reserves, ammo, money, vehicles - all wasted. Russian economy is best in Europe (I consider Russia European).

War is basically over (not that the kooks will stop kookin)

The truth is pretty much out now and even the hive has been admitting it




Ukrainians contemplate the once unthinkable: Losing the war with Russia​


Ukraine outnumbered, outgunned, ground down by relentless Russia​


A soldier serving in a GRAD rocket artillery unit, whose call sign is "Skorpion", said that "Artillery shells are also in short supply as a result of Western countries' inability to keep up the pace of shipments for a drawn-out war. On top of the U.S. supply pause, the EU has conceded it will miss its target to supply a million shells to Ukraine by March by nearly half... shells are in short supply as a result of Western countries' inability to keep up the pace of shipments for a drawn-out war. On top of the U.S. supply pause, the EU has conceded it will miss its target to supply a million shells to Ukraine by March by nearly half."


Ukraine was led down a garden path of promises that evaporated - another country US will leave broken and in chaos
 
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Back to the top of the shp, they were supposedly having electrical problems before leaving port. Investigation ongoing:

Btw, while not necessary a common occurrence, loose barges on the Pittsburgh rivers have happened multiple times in my life. Not saying it is a guarantee of anything, just adding context.
 
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