Yes I agree that your theory makes sense. What I'm saying is that accepting what you or I "think" is apparent is just as inadequate as accepting what the sports media and the Rutger folks here "think" and "know".
Agreed. But again you assume that C/S/S testimony won't be exculpatory for Joe. I am assuming it will. The truth is probably somewhere between what I believe and what you tend to think.
Guess in the warped mind of the Ped cultist there is no need to be too upset about the cover-up of a pedophile rapist loose on campus as long as the football program gets on track. Is it like some Stockholm syndrome out there that turns you into a cultist or a genetic defect that predisposes you to go to Ped?
Football is THE heart, mind and soul of a Pedder, which keeps bringing it back full circle to why the cover-up of a rampant pedophile rapist happened.Guess in the warped mind of the Ped cultist there is no need to be too upset about the cover-up of a pedophile rapist loose on campus as long as the football program gets on track. Is it like some Stockholm syndrome out there that turns you into a cultist or a genetic defect that predisposes you to go to Ped?
Well, it is surprising that you see so much difficulty in getting support from your endowment and donor base out there for anything but football. You still have the few hundred$$ student fee increase or general alumni fundraising to help take care of the ugly non-football stepchildren out there, if the will were ever out there.
What he is talking about is The second psychiatrist who interviewed the 1998 victim and concluded that Sandusky was not a pedophile. The psychiatrist worked for the Child Youth Services of Centre County, the same organization that approved Sandusky's adoptions. This was after another psychiatrist concluded that Jerry was a "likely pedophile".
You should be made at the people involved in the coverup, not the ones you are attacking (PSU fans and alumni).Guess in the warped mind of the Ped cultist there is no need to be too upset about the cover-up of a pedophile rapist loose on campus as long as the football program gets on track. Is it like some Stockholm syndrome out there that turns you into a cultist or a genetic defect that predisposes you to go to Ped?
Well, it is surprising that you see so much difficulty in getting support from your endowment and donor base out there for anything but football. You still have the few hundred$$ student fee increase or general alumni fundraising to help take care of the ugly non-football stepchildren out there, if the will were ever out there.
You're the source for 2nd paragraph, crying about how all Ped athletics crater without football because there's no other sources for funding. Your 1st sentence is idiotic, who isn't mad at the people involved in the cover-up? The attacks started from Ped side when it was posted many pages back that the cover-up was even worse than what is now known.
Yes, we would shut down sports without a conference or revenue to support them. Do you think PSU can solicit $95 million of non-endowed funding each year to keep things afloat? From pissed off alumni no less? Give me a break son.
You must be suffering from alzheimer's. Go back and re-read about raising student fees, more fundraising work, more cooperation from endowment donors. It would take alot of work, effort and sacrifice but if the will was there it would get done. But keep repeating and spinning about alumni turning their backs on the school because of a couple years of no football-it's just reinforcing the cult.
Not completely true. They should just come right out and say we don't want to give up football for 2,3, 4 years because we love it, and not try to hide behind some spin about the whole system collapsing financially without it.
Sure no donor endowments could be restructured to plug some of the hole. Get real.
Or they could be mentally challenged if they think Sandusky's pedophilia sprung out of nowhere in '98 despite being around young boys on & off campus since '77, or simply was just unbeknownst to anyone in the program from '77-'98.
No it wouldn't work. I cannot begin to tel you how irresponsible it is to charge students $1000 for athletics. Do you know why PSU professors and state officials support athletics instead of trying to tear it down like at Rutgers? It's because it is self supporting and doesn't take anything away from the academic side.
It would cost over $300 million to keep the other sports going until until football came back (for four years) without the aid of the Big Ten. It wouldn't be feasible to keep it running.
As I asked before, do you think Schiano knew about it? How about Dick Anderson before he came to Rutgers?
What donor would be willing to do that? And if the hole is 90 million that the university would need to fill, how many endowments would need to be changed? Note that even a 1 million dollar endowment only yields about 50,000 of spending each year. It would take about $1.8 BILLION worth of endowments to change to generate enough income to cover the shortfall. That is nearly twice as large as the whole endowment at Rutgers. It's just not realistic... both in dollar amount and in the foolish assumption that donors would be willing to make the change.
Unfortunately we do not know at this point do we. We don't even really know what the 3 stooges knew till they have their day in court. Personally I hope there are not more at PSU that knew. But when you think about the "PSU community" and include the Second Mile folks that had strong connections to the University, I personally think there are still a number of folks that knew stuff. Sorry but just my hunch!!
While I don't know definitively, I would assume there are many like Greg that worked around him and kids, saw questionable signs, and chose to do the legally, not the morally correct thing to do.
Again, not in a million years would GS have turned his back, or not done everything he could have to stop a monster…if he knew about it.
You're starting to sound like a politician with your numbers. Firstly the endowment funds-particularly for athletics-can be restructured, but you keep assuming a % of distributions are locked, which is false. If the donors-again especially the athletic endowment donors-wouldn't work with the school, make some sacrifices, etc. because football was closed down for 2 years then there are problems with those donors. Secondly who knows how accurate a college athletics budget is. RU Athletics is charged by RU Food Services for concessions, an expense to AD but revenue to Food Services (more reason to discount much of the crazies that attack the RU student fee "subsidies"). Then I look at your school's 2013 Athletics Budget and read that football nets about +$29Mil. So where is this $90Mil/yr hole coming from if football is shutdown for 2,3,4 years?
My understanding is the Email stated "after talking it over with Coach", no mention of Joe.
What would it accomplish? People love to pound their chest and say shutting the football program down was the right thing to do. Did you stop and think to ask any of the victims what they wanted? I mean after all it should be about the victims. Several are still fans and one even spoke out against the firing of Paterno. People get on their high horse but never think what do the victims want. The impact of shutting down Penn State football effects far more then football program. Sure the football coaches would be fine but how about all those little people who work behind the scenes. You would see about 30-40 support staff lose their jobs. Many in the hospitality industry who with out football season would never stay in business just like many retail outlets would go out of business without Christmas. What would this accomplish other then vigilante justice? The other fines, financial. legal and reputation losses that Penn State has faced will prevent this from occurring again. The death penalty to Penn State would not change that.
Bring in anyone and everyone from AD's to asst coaches to trainers and water boys there during the Sandusky era and ask them under oath. But JokePA and the AD were responsible for Sandusky and all employees reporting to them. You can be certain Schiano who was criticized for micromanaging at RU would make it his business to keep an eye on a grown man being around so many boys so much.
Why didn't he because he was around Penn State and coached under him? People act as if it was common knowledge and open. If it was so rampant why didn't Schaino know and stop it?
Schiano reported to Sandusky, perhaps the perve ped was able to order his minions away from witnessing his heinous acts. My suspicion is that Sandy probably did hide it for a while, but it was discovered eventually and by then it would've ruined JokePa and tarnished the program so then the cover-up began.
