The funny headlines on my feed at work are great.
“Alonso gone” headline.
“We’ll only if this and that happens” - article.
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“Alonso gone” headline.
“We’ll only if this and that happens” - article.
Thirty eight long years ago. Probably lots of posters here weren't even a gleam in their father's eye back then.
Heyman is pretty much Boras' press secretary. That said, we have seen this movie before. When Boras doesn't get the offer his client wants, he waits... and waits... and waits. Will it work this time? There are 30 teams out there, and it only takes one.
kind of seemed that his clients that went this long last year looking for long term contracts- ended up with late 1 year contracts and finally got long tern the year after...
One set of numbers that Boras no doubt has on his mind is 7 years $158 million. He turned it down and, given his recent history of making more an more mistakes when he runs these negotiations to the end, he will want to match or beat that. At some point he'll either get it or give up on it. And if he gives up on it, something short term with opt outs is next. And I'd expect that's the area where Stearns will want to talk. I'm not knocking Boras. He may surprise everyone. All that said, and regardless of how it goes, Boras been very successful at this for a long time.
6 years? He'll be lucky to get 4 as this moves on. We'll see but I don't see it ending anytime soon.
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Mets Sign Travis Swaggerty and Yonny Hernández to Minor League Deals, Re-Sign Brian Metoyer - Metsmerized Online
The Mets signed outfielder Travis Swaggerty and infielder Yonny Hernandez to minor league deals on Wednesday, Mike Mayer of MMO reports. Swaggerty, 27 posted an .800 OPS while playing for the Kansas City Monarchs of the American Association. A former first-round pick, he spent the 2018 through...
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Well said. Since Alonso made $20.5M in 2024, his 7/$158M offer in 2023 is now effectively 6/$137.5M. That's his floor. He and Boras will accept nothing less - at least not right away.
Boras' unspoken message (or maybe it IS spoken!) is this: "You want my client in your camp when it opens? Then give us what we want." Come mid-February, and no sooner, Boras will go to Plan B. Or maybe he won't have to. There are 30 teams out there, and he only needs one.
All of that said, I think the Mets eventually get it done at 4/$110M, somewhat front-loaded, with opt outs after the first two years. Just not anytime soon.
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3 years, 100M, 33.33 AAV, give Pete an opt out after the 2nd year.
He gets his 9 figure deal, Mets get their short term deal, just friggen do it!
He gets his 9 figure deal, Mets get their short term deal, just friggen do it!
I assume that the Mets are leaking to Duquette similar to Boras leaking to Heyman. If so, I totally miscalled this one. Shocked that Boras would fold his hand this early.
This could very well be Pete telling him to get it done. We know he wants to be back and the dollars/market are just not there for him to leave.
Any opt-outs give him a chance to earn more if he performs
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Acuna for Arraez
Baty and Gilbert for Robert Jr
Sign Pete and Santander to DH
Lindor SS
Vientos 3B
Soto RF
Pete 1B
Santander DH
Arreaz 2B
Robert CF
Nimmo LF
Alvarez C
That’s a phenomenal lineup
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I love the Mets
Acuna for Arraez
Baty and Gilbert for Robert Jr
Sign Pete and Santander to DH
Lindor SS
Vientos 3B
Soto RF
Pete 1B
Santander DH
Arreaz 2B
Robert CF
Nimmo LF
Alvarez C
That’s a phenomenal lineup
Soto derangement syndrom,lmfao. As if the Yankees are still used as a measuring stick. Your fanbase really needs to get over themselves too funny. CAN YOU SAY,LIVING IN THE PAST?
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Last thing I was absolutely sure of, I was wrong. So I will try again. I am absolutely sure that Alonso will not sign any three year contract that does not include an opt-out after year one.
Don't want Arreaz. Yes, he has one a couple battle titles but his on base percentage is essential his batting average, no power, terrible defensively and no speed. I would ride with Acuna.
Yeah right. Boras just screws his clients, which is why he has so many of them.
A reminder. When Alonso reportedly turned down 7/$158, Boras was not his agent.
In Conforto's case, it was not Boras' fault that Conforto had a season-ending off-season injury in his walk year.
Can’t stand Arreaz as a player. What player always near 200 hits and scores maybe 75-80 runs all the time.
As you said- gets soft hits, gets on base no other way, can’t run, can’t field.
I think it depends upon the case. Boras wins for the majority of his clients, but by forcing them to wait until free agency to negotiate a walk year injury is a huge problem.
That is the Boras philosophy, and that is what players buy into when they hire him.
Scott Boras believes that the most valuable asset a player owns is his free agency. He believes that if a team wants his player to voluntarily relinquish his right to free agency by signing an early extension, well he is going to make that team PAY A PREMIUM for the privilege. And sometimes teams do overpay, as the Mets did with Lindor (although not a Boras client.)
That philosophy is 180 degrees opposite of what most teams believe. A GM might say to a player agent, "We want to sign your client to an extension. We are offering long term security. We will protect you from the risk of injury or of performance downturn. Naturally, we need you to GIVE US A DISCOUNT in exchange for all this." The polar opposite viewpoint.
In the case of Conforto... In 2020 (the abbreviated COVID year), Conforto was really good. The Mets talked extension but it never got anywhere. Then in his contract year of 2021, Conforto had the worst year of his career. Mets offered him the QO but he declined. No big early offers came in. Then in January, he had his off-season injury, and that was that. He spent all of 2022 injured and unemployed.
Tough luck for Conforto. In hindsight he'd have been better off with the security of a contract. But when you go into your walk year unsigned, you are betting on yourself. Conforto lost that bet.
I guess nobody wants Fat Pete. He's begging for a contract now. He should fire Boras, who lost him a ton of money.
I agree with everything you said. It all comes down to playing the odds and minimizing risk.
For me, the tease of building generational wealth would be too much and I would lock in early most likely.
Most likely, Pete already has generational wealth. He has made around $45 mil playing baseball and if I were to guess - $10-20 in earnings outside of baseball. And regardless of his current situation- he will make at least another $20+ this year. Over the remainder of his career- most likely another $100-$150 mil plus what he gets off the field.
Staying with the Met's and maybe bring them to a WS and or hit 400-500 HR- will bring him another 80-100 off field earnings. And I don't think he gets those off the field earnings anywhere else that may sign him
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I’m not sure how much better even Soto is by waiting for free agency. Wasn’t the Washington offer like $450m with opt outs. He would have banked 2 additional years of max money and likely still redid his contract if he performed the same. Factor in the time value of money, those 2 extra years are huge.
Still hung up on losing Soto? The Pinstripes, 27 rings, the "history and a years worth of hearing the cheers from Yankees fans meant nothing. Must be a tough pill. Fat Pete was way more clutch in the post season than your Mr. May, just stating the facts. How many more runs into the playoffs and total failures by "the best player in baseball" will it take for you to switch your attention from Fat Pete to Mr. May 2.0.
